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  • you have to fucking wonder at some of these calls....

    Browns149B 1 Reply

  • Thank you Goodell

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  • jim_brownJ jim_brown

    you have to fucking wonder at some of these calls....

    @jim_brown said:

    you have to fucking wonder at some of these calls....

    The defensive pass interference on the final drive was HORSESHIT also

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • D BoneD D Bone

    Thank you Goodell

    @d-bone said:

    Thank you Goodell

    Got to have LUCK in the playoffs

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • That call on browner (pats) was ridiculous. The refs are out of control. In our Game I thought the pi call on buster was worse

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • T The Cysko Kid

    That call on browner (pats) was ridiculous. The refs are out of control. In our Game I thought the pi call on buster was worse

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    That call on browner (pats) was ridiculous. The refs are out of control. In our Game I thought the pi call on buster was worse

    It seemed like when the Colts need a play, and they didn't make it, the refs made it for them

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • That's the feeling I got. Gift call for the big star and the team who was "supposed" to win. Of course our potential big nfl star is riding the pine

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • Browns149B Browns149

    @winstonlegthigh said:

    Yea just saw that, WOW.

    Still haven't seen the Kruger hit, I just delete my DVR when we lose, I don't need that extra stress.

    I was there. The Kruger hit couldn't have been more tame

    @browns149 said:

    I was there. The Kruger hit couldn't have been more tame

    I was there too, when they tossed the flag it was WTF???

    @browns149 said:

    The defensive pass interference on the final drive was HORSESHIT also

    Not so much horseshit- inconsistent calls. they were letting DBs mug receivers all day on both sides- until it mattered.

  • There was 3 times when our WR were "turned" by the colt DB and it was NEVER called.

    It happend 1 time to a colts TE, and it was very lame at that, and it was called.

    I guess LUCK has something to do with it

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Brian Tuohy wrote a best seller called "The Fix Is In". After spending time in prison Tuohy wrote the book exposing how the NFL, NHL, NBA, NCAA, and all major sports are fixed by the powers that be. Just a penalty here, a flag there can determine millions of dollars in gambling. And last year when the Browns were beating the Patriots, at the end of the game they called a pass interference on the Browns. The call was bogus and put the Patriots in the red zone with less than a minute to go. We lost. After reading the book you will never watch sports the same again.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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  • Full speed the Kruger hit looked bad. Slo-mo replay? not so much...

    Ditto the Pats' hit tonite... although it looked more clearly legal to me.

    Refs are going to err on the side of flagging anything that looks like it might be "________". They will do so because owners want them to protect their valuable employees from undue harm.

    They are going to end up having to use replay to sort out the wrongly flagged.

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  • All day they were letting them play . . . Until Luck needed a break. I full heartedly beleive the NFL takes it easy on the "stars".

    I also really think the NFL is pissed that we didn't start Manziel from the get go, and we have to pay the price for them losing a media poster child. I beleive this for several reasons, and the officiating in the last 2 games which helped keep us out of the playoffs (not to excuse our own terrible offense) are a couple of them. People who completely dismiss the idea of the NFL pulling a few strings to prop up some teams/stars are naive. When you're talking about billions of dollars people will do whatever it takes to protect it.

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  • I agree with the assessment that the refs changed the outcome of today's game with the Browns. The call on Kruger was awful. But the call on Skrine was a terrible call at a critical juncture of the game. Yes, I saw the tug on the jersey but there were similar plays by the Colts all over the field and a flag was not thrown. Bottom line, it wasn't enough to make a difference and a flag should not have been thrown on the play.

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  • W Why

    All day they were letting them play . . . Until Luck needed a break. I full heartedly beleive the NFL takes it easy on the "stars".

    I also really think the NFL is pissed that we didn't start Manziel from the get go, and we have to pay the price for them losing a media poster child. I beleive this for several reasons, and the officiating in the last 2 games which helped keep us out of the playoffs (not to excuse our own terrible offense) are a couple of them. People who completely dismiss the idea of the NFL pulling a few strings to prop up some teams/stars are naive. When you're talking about billions of dollars people will do whatever it takes to protect it.

    @why said:

    All day they were letting them play . . . Until Luck needed a break. I full heartedly beleive the NFL takes it easy on the "stars".

    I also really think the NFL is pissed that we didn't start Manziel from the get go, and we have to pay the price for them losing a media poster child. I beleive this for several reasons, and the officiating in the last 2 games which helped keep us out of the playoffs (not to excuse our own terrible offense) are a couple of them. People who completely dismiss the idea of the NFL pulling a few strings to prop up some teams/stars are naive. When you're talking about billions of dollars people will do whatever it takes to protect it.

    That's thing............$$$$$$$$$ BILLIONS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    How often do you see a Brian Hoyer type make a deep playoff run??????????

    If it was Johnny Football,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, who knows??????????

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • W Why

    All day they were letting them play . . . Until Luck needed a break. I full heartedly beleive the NFL takes it easy on the "stars".

    I also really think the NFL is pissed that we didn't start Manziel from the get go, and we have to pay the price for them losing a media poster child. I beleive this for several reasons, and the officiating in the last 2 games which helped keep us out of the playoffs (not to excuse our own terrible offense) are a couple of them. People who completely dismiss the idea of the NFL pulling a few strings to prop up some teams/stars are naive. When you're talking about billions of dollars people will do whatever it takes to protect it.

    @why said:

    All day they were letting them play . . . Until Luck needed a break. I full heartedly beleive the NFL takes it easy on the "stars".

    I also really think the NFL is pissed that we didn't start Manziel from the get go, and we have to pay the price for them losing a media poster child. I beleive this for several reasons, and the officiating in the last 2 games which helped keep us out of the playoffs (not to excuse our own terrible offense) are a couple of them. People who completely dismiss the idea of the NFL pulling a few strings to prop up some teams/stars are naive. When you're talking about billions of dollars people will do whatever it takes to protect it.

    Hate to say it- if Hoyer hadn't played like total shit- (32 qbr for those keeping score) the Browns win easily. Two deep passes to open receivers that weren't in the same area code. The int in the end zone was all on the refs. I suppose the bookies paid off Cundiff to miss that FG too. He makes that one, it wouldn't have mattered what the Cols did in the last 2 minutes of the game.

  • ^ I agree, and like I said there's no excuse for the Weedenesque performances of Hoyer's . . . There's really no excuse for a terrible roughing call, or a PI call on something that they hadn't been calling all day either.

    If Manziel shows some maturity (No more birds) on the field and we have a winning record after about 8 games next year the calls will miraculously be more in our favor. When I got home from the game ESPN showed the highlights of Luck's "amazing" comeback but they failed to show the questionable calls that helped him along the way . . . Now just imagine next year it's Manziel . . . The talking heads on that damn network would be exploding and the NFL bean counters drooling.

  • Opal312O Opal312

    Brian Tuohy wrote a best seller called "The Fix Is In". After spending time in prison Tuohy wrote the book exposing how the NFL, NHL, NBA, NCAA, and all major sports are fixed by the powers that be. Just a penalty here, a flag there can determine millions of dollars in gambling. And last year when the Browns were beating the Patriots, at the end of the game they called a pass interference on the Browns. The call was bogus and put the Patriots in the red zone with less than a minute to go. We lost. After reading the book you will never watch sports the same again.

    @opal312 said:

    Brian Tuohy wrote a best seller called "The Fix Is In". After spending time in prison Tuohy wrote the book exposing how the NFL, NHL, NBA, NCAA, and all major sports are fixed by the powers that be. Just a penalty here, a flag there can determine millions of dollars in gambling. And last year when the Browns were beating the Patriots, at the end of the game they called a pass interference on the Browns. The call was bogus and put the Patriots in the red zone with less than a minute to go. We lost. After reading the book you will never watch sports the same again.

    Have you ever read the fine print on the back of your ticket? Food for thought.

  • Just like TDs and critical 1st downs are automatically reviewed because of how important they are, so should penalty flags be reviewed during critical plays.

    I can't recall Skrine's PI call exactly. This was the one where he put his hands on the hips of the WR and pushed up off him? It was very minimal touching and pushing, but he did it as shown in the slo-mo replay on the jumbotron.

    On the flip side, Hawkins got raped from behind on a critical pass play and no PI at all.

  • Opal312O Opal312

    Brian Tuohy wrote a best seller called "The Fix Is In". After spending time in prison Tuohy wrote the book exposing how the NFL, NHL, NBA, NCAA, and all major sports are fixed by the powers that be. Just a penalty here, a flag there can determine millions of dollars in gambling. And last year when the Browns were beating the Patriots, at the end of the game they called a pass interference on the Browns. The call was bogus and put the Patriots in the red zone with less than a minute to go. We lost. After reading the book you will never watch sports the same again.

    @opal312 said:

    Brian Tuohy wrote a best seller called "The Fix Is In". After spending time in prison Tuohy wrote the book exposing how the NFL, NHL, NBA, NCAA, and all major sports are fixed by the powers that be. Just a penalty here, a flag there can determine millions of dollars in gambling. And last year when the Browns were beating the Patriots, at the end of the game they called a pass interference on the Browns. The call was bogus and put the Patriots in the red zone with less than a minute to go. We lost. After reading the book you will never watch sports the same again.

    Well, I've not read the book, but I've always had my suspicions about sports being fixed. Let's face it, sports is big business, and it is entertainment, so the fact that some of it can be scripted doesn't suprise me one damn bit. Also, the refs are always going to give teams like the Colts, Patriots and Steelers who are perennial winners the benefit of the doubt. Until the Browns start becoming perennial winners themselves, look for more of the same.

  • Did anyone else notice yesterday that not once but twice the ref said this when explaining two penalties that went against the Browns for defensive holding. This dumbass actually said, "Holding on the defense BEFORE the snap." I'm not making this shit up.

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