Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Exactly! Work hard play hard!
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Apparently JF was tweeting at 3.30am Saturday night/Sunday morning?
Clearly they aren't happy with his behaviour
The basketball game and showing up at 11 am would likely be a non issue in a vacuum. Add things like tweeting at 3:30 am the night before a potential start for him and its still indicative of a huge lack of commitment and maturity. I hope he gets the nod and does well but these are the ongoing behaviors that should be of concern. Please don't say "he's just a kid still", he is expected to be a responsible adult and is making a lot of money to be one.
The basketball game and showing up at 11 am would likely be a non issue in a vacuum. Add things like tweeting at 3:30 am the night before a potential start for him and its still indicative of a huge lack of commitment and maturity. I hope he gets the nod and does well but these are the ongoing behaviors that should be of concern. Please don't say "he's just a kid still", he is expected to be a responsible adult and is making a lot of money to be one.
I agree with you, since Farmer came in they have made a big deal about changing the culture with “play like Browns” etc.
They don't trust him off the field so he isn't getting on it.
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The basketball game and showing up at 11 am would likely be a non issue in a vacuum. Add things like tweeting at 3:30 am the night before a potential start for him and its still indicative of a huge lack of commitment and maturity. I hope he gets the nod and does well but these are the ongoing behaviors that should be of concern. Please don't say "he's just a kid still", he is expected to be a responsible adult and is making a lot of money to be one.
I agree with you, since Farmer came in they have made a big deal about changing the culture with “play like Browns” etc.
They don't trust him off the field so he isn't getting on it.
I agree with you, since Farmer came in they have made a big deal about changing the culture with play like Browns etc.
They don't trust him off the field so he isn't getting on it.
Well then thanks coach. You showed him eh?
Of course by doing so you not only punished him but all the fans and the rest of the team. Does that make you feel better? Frankly London it doesn't cheer me up...
Billy didn't clean up his room so the whole family stays home.
WSS
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I agree with you, since Farmer came in they have made a big deal about changing the culture with play like Browns etc.
They don't trust him off the field so he isn't getting on it.
Well then thanks coach. You showed him eh?
Of course by doing so you not only punished him but all the fans and the rest of the team. Does that make you feel better? Frankly London it doesn't cheer me up...
Billy didn't clean up his room so the whole family stays home.
WSS
Well then thanks coach. You showed him eh?
Of course by doing so you not only punished him but all the fans and the rest of the team. Does that make you feel better? Frankly London it doesn't cheer me up...
Billy didn't clean up his room so the whole family stays home.
WSS
As fans we just want win today first but guess they're looking at this as a long term culture shift ?
Manziel needs to buy in quick as looks like Pettine isn't budging
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Well then thanks coach. You showed him eh?
Of course by doing so you not only punished him but all the fans and the rest of the team. Does that make you feel better? Frankly London it doesn't cheer me up...
Billy didn't clean up his room so the whole family stays home.
WSS
As fans we just want win today first but guess they're looking at this as a long term culture shift ?
Manziel needs to buy in quick as looks like Pettine isn't budging
As fans we just want win today first but guess they're looking at this as a long term culture shift ?
Manziel needs to buy in quick as looks like Pettine isn't budging
Let me see. BH has not scored a TD in any way in 3 games and is the worst QB in the NFL over that same period.
JF, that little cocky shit, has had 5 minutes and scored a running TD that would have been beyond Hoyer's abilities.
So tell me again who needs to buy into who? Pettine needs to wake up and smell the coffee. He has a Joe Namath/Bobby Lane on his hands and has no clue.
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Well then thanks coach. You showed him eh?
Of course by doing so you not only punished him but all the fans and the rest of the team. Does that make you feel better? Frankly London it doesn't cheer me up...
Billy didn't clean up his room so the whole family stays home.
WSS
As fans we just want win today first but guess they're looking at this as a long term culture shift ?
Manziel needs to buy in quick as looks like Pettine isn't budging
As fans we just want win today first but guess they're looking at this as a long term culture shift ?
Manziel needs to buy in quick as looks like Pettine isn't budging
Well maybe coach can put that on his resume in a couple years.
Where is Weeb Ewbank when we need him?
WSS
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I love that Johnny shows to support the cavs. Kid's got balls. Have that same attitude on the field and we'll be ok.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
There is clearly a divide among players and coaches (Hoyer guys and JF guys). Hell, Cameron said it was his fault on the Hoyer Int. in the end-zone.
Hell, Cameron said it was his fault on the Hoyer Int. in the end-zone.
Really? I didn't see him throw off his back foot (I'd like to see the replay because it actually appeared his feet were almost parallel to the LOS and he threw off his back heels) into double coverage when there was no real pressure. How could he possibly blame himself for Hoyer's supreme FU of the day (even worse than the two wide open TD overthrows)?
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We used to call it work hard, play hard. If going out late is affecting his performance, then it would be an issue. If not, then leave him alone.
We used to call it work hard, play hard. If going out late is affecting his performance, then it would be an issue. If not, then leave him alone.
Also, the guy is fucking 22 and people need to lighten up.
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Apparently JF was tweeting at 3.30am Saturday night/Sunday morning?
Clearly they aren't happy with his behaviour
The basketball game and showing up at 11 am would likely be a non issue in a vacuum. Add things like tweeting at 3:30 am the night before a potential start for him and its still indicative of a huge lack of commitment and maturity. I hope he gets the nod and does well but these are the ongoing behaviors that should be of concern. Please don't say "he's just a kid still", he is expected to be a responsible adult and is making a lot of money to be one.
The basketball game and showing up at 11 am would likely be a non issue in a vacuum. Add things like tweeting at 3:30 am the night before a potential start for him and its still indicative of a huge lack of commitment and maturity. I hope he gets the nod and does well but these are the ongoing behaviors that should be of concern. Please don't say "he's just a kid still", he is expected to be a responsible adult and is making a lot of money to be one.
potential start? Absolutely had no shot at starting Sunday. Hey I got an idea...if the kid can fucking play who gives a shit what he does on his time. Ya'll need to get your head out of Johnny's ass and let the kid live his life.
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Well then thanks coach. You showed him eh?
Of course by doing so you not only punished him but all the fans and the rest of the team. Does that make you feel better? Frankly London it doesn't cheer me up...
Billy didn't clean up his room so the whole family stays home.
WSS
As fans we just want win today first but guess they're looking at this as a long term culture shift ?
Manziel needs to buy in quick as looks like Pettine isn't budging
As fans we just want win today first but guess they're looking at this as a long term culture shift ?
Manziel needs to buy in quick as looks like Pettine isn't budging
Well Pettine can go fuck himself then. "Brian Hoyer gives this team the best chance to win". Well coach after watching this season I would say you are borderline Retarded.
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Gilbert and West have both been benched this year for off the field stuff. Why is Jonny any different?
I want him to play I'm excited to see him play but he's not buying in to what they're trying to create. And personally I don't think Josh is either.
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Boy, all this stuff is getting old and we're not even through one full season.
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Boy, all this stuff is getting old and we're not even through one full season.
It's just so disappointing. The scenario of Hoyer just absolutely shitting the bed and rolling around in it was one I thought not possible. That's why I'm pissed. Hell atleast Weeden made me laugh when he sucked. Hoyer makes me want to punch him in the mouth. He needs to quit running his mouth to the media too!
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As someone who owns a business, I can assure you that what people do outside of work DOES make a difference....
And if Im gonna pay someone a million dollars to be the top producer at MY company, then I EXPECT my employee to make the company and his career the #1 priority.....
And if my million dollar star thinks his personal agenda is more important, then he isn't what I hoped he was.....
Yeah, he's 22 and acts like it....but most 22 year olds dont have million dollar jobs.....
so, if hes just another immature 22 year old kid, then he should go back to college and party his ass off.....no problem, thats what kids do.....
BUT, if he's a professional football player and wants his millions, then he should adjust his priorities, sacrifice the mid week parties and show his new bosses that he's serious and that he respects what his bosses want and need from him.....
Right now, he is disrespecting his coaches and team by saying he wont change and their wants dont jive with his wants.....
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As someone who owns a business, I can assure you that what people do outside of work DOES make a difference....
And if Im gonna pay someone a million dollars to be the top producer at MY company, then I EXPECT my employee to make the company and his career the #1 priority.....
And if my million dollar star thinks his personal agenda is more important, then he isn't what I hoped he was.....
Yeah, he's 22 and acts like it....but most 22 year olds dont have million dollar jobs.....
so, if hes just another immature 22 year old kid, then he should go back to college and party his ass off.....no problem, thats what kids do.....
BUT, if he's a professional football player and wants his millions, then he should adjust his priorities, sacrifice the mid week parties and show his new bosses that he's serious and that he respects what his bosses want and need from him.....
Right now, he is disrespecting his coaches and team by saying he wont change and their wants dont jive with his wants.....
As someone who owns a business, I can assure you that what people do outside of work DOES make a difference....
And if Im gonna pay someone a million dollars to be the top producer at MY company, then I EXPECT my employee to make the company and his career the #1 priority.....
And if my million dollar star thinks his personal agenda is more important, then he isn't what I hoped he was.....
Yeah, he's 22 and acts like it....but most 22 year olds dont have million dollar jobs.....
so, if hes just another immature 22 year old kid, then he should go back to college and party his ass off.....no problem, thats what kids do.....
BUT, if he's a professional football player and wants his millions, then he should adjust his priorities, sacrifice the mid week parties and show his new bosses that he's serious and that he respects what his bosses want and need from him.....
Right now, he is disrespecting his coaches and team by saying he wont change and their wants dont jive with his wants.....
Please explain to me what JFF has done to negatively impact the team? I'll wait.
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I love that Johnny shows to support the cavs. Kid's got balls. Have that same attitude on the field and we'll be ok.
I love that Johnny shows to support the cavs. Kid's got balls. Have that same attitude on the field and we'll be ok.
Exactly. As I've said many times on this board, Johnny is the same on and off the field. Fearless. Don't try to change him, just put saddle on him and ride him. He is a baller, and he's getting bored watching a guy who is a tenth the talent of him getting starts and, even worse, getting the support of other players and coaches.
If they're so stupid as to WANT Hoyer, why should Johnny do anything more than what he has to do.
And again, Pettine's mad he went to a Cavs game??? Really?
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As someone who owns a business, I can assure you that what people do outside of work DOES make a difference....
And if Im gonna pay someone a million dollars to be the top producer at MY company, then I EXPECT my employee to make the company and his career the #1 priority.....
And if my million dollar star thinks his personal agenda is more important, then he isn't what I hoped he was.....
Yeah, he's 22 and acts like it....but most 22 year olds dont have million dollar jobs.....
so, if hes just another immature 22 year old kid, then he should go back to college and party his ass off.....no problem, thats what kids do.....
BUT, if he's a professional football player and wants his millions, then he should adjust his priorities, sacrifice the mid week parties and show his new bosses that he's serious and that he respects what his bosses want and need from him.....
Right now, he is disrespecting his coaches and team by saying he wont change and their wants dont jive with his wants.....
As someone who owns a business, I can assure you that what people do outside of work DOES make a difference....
And if Im gonna pay someone a million dollars to be the top producer at MY company, then I EXPECT my employee to make the company and his career the #1 priority.....
And if my million dollar star thinks his personal agenda is more important, then he isn't what I hoped he was.....
Yeah, he's 22 and acts like it....but most 22 year olds dont have million dollar jobs.....
so, if hes just another immature 22 year old kid, then he should go back to college and party his ass off.....no problem, thats what kids do.....
BUT, if he's a professional football player and wants his millions, then he should adjust his priorities, sacrifice the mid week parties and show his new bosses that he's serious and that he respects what his bosses want and need from him.....
Right now, he is disrespecting his coaches and team by saying he wont change and their wants dont jive with his wants.....
Going to a basketball game is hardly disrespecting anyone. I think he needs to quit the tweeting or change his name so no one outside of his friends knows who he is.
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As someone who owns a business, I can assure you that what people do outside of work DOES make a difference....
And if Im gonna pay someone a million dollars to be the top producer at MY company, then I EXPECT my employee to make the company and his career the #1 priority.....
And if my million dollar star thinks his personal agenda is more important, then he isn't what I hoped he was.....
Yeah, he's 22 and acts like it....but most 22 year olds dont have million dollar jobs.....
so, if hes just another immature 22 year old kid, then he should go back to college and party his ass off.....no problem, thats what kids do.....
BUT, if he's a professional football player and wants his millions, then he should adjust his priorities, sacrifice the mid week parties and show his new bosses that he's serious and that he respects what his bosses want and need from him.....
Right now, he is disrespecting his coaches and team by saying he wont change and their wants dont jive with his wants.....
As someone who owns a business, I can assure you that what people do outside of work DOES make a difference....
And if Im gonna pay someone a million dollars to be the top producer at MY company, then I EXPECT my employee to make the company and his career the #1 priority.....
And if my million dollar star thinks his personal agenda is more important, then he isn't what I hoped he was.....
Yeah, he's 22 and acts like it....but most 22 year olds dont have million dollar jobs.....
so, if hes just another immature 22 year old kid, then he should go back to college and party his ass off.....no problem, thats what kids do.....
BUT, if he's a professional football player and wants his millions, then he should adjust his priorities, sacrifice the mid week parties and show his new bosses that he's serious and that he respects what his bosses want and need from him.....
Right now, he is disrespecting his coaches and team by saying he wont change and their wants dont jive with his wants.....
So as a business owner, you would choose to lose money by promoting the guy who works hard but sucks at his job, as opposed to the wild man who could land you the biggest accounts you've ever had? Sound business strategy.
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