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  • Browns fans losing their heads over this shitty loss.

    NO, there is no mutiny in the locker room. NO, we are not getting a new HC next year.

    Calm down and think clearly.

  • Yeah the coach is safe. Hoyer not so much.

  • I'll offer my take. For one, I liked the Manziel pick. However; I was happy with Hoyer being the starter, and allowing Manziel to sit, learn the pro game and develop properly so as to NOT ruin another QB. Furthermore we have a new front office and a new head coach. This truly is a building year, and by winning 7 games (which nobody expected, though I did) they are looking as though they are heading in the right direction. With another draft under the new regime's belt, and getting all of our injured guys back next year, 2015 looks to be the year to take that next step and get to the post season. I did not expect and still do not expect the Browns to make the playoffs this year. They would have win out, and get a lot of help. Having said that, they may as well go with Manziel for these last 3 games, so we can see what we have with him and find out if he can provide that spark going into next season. I'll tell you this, Hoyer with his performance over the last few games has not made a case for cashing in on a big payday here or elsewhere. In fact, he may end up back here as a back up, and I'd be OK with that. Given his recent performance, who is going to give him a big contract? A team that is desperate, and two come to mind Oakland, or Tennessee, and that is it!

  • Oakland let palmer walk they're not going to shell out for hoyer.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • RiseToFallR RiseToFall

    @walterwhite said:

    Pettine lost us the game and I hope they just give the offensive power and decisions to someone else.

    I'd fire Pettine but that's just me.

    Yeah lets fire the coach that has made the Browns watchable in December for the first time in 7 years, smart.

    @risetofall said:

    Yeah lets fire the coach that has made the Browns watchable in December for the first time in 7 years, smart.

    Seriously. I think Pettine and the Browns exceeded a lot of people's expectations this year. There is no need for knee jerk reactions in firing him!

  • pettines a fucking bitch Louis Brian piccolo fuck him. Manziel would've won us this game and we would have a great chance for the playoffs

  • Can't wait to see bitch ass hoyer on the bench oh god you suck hoyer

  • Hoyer just said he hasn't been told anything about not starting so assume Pettine won't be saying anything either at 4pm press conference.

  • lodiloboL lodilobo

    I've been a Hoyer supporter, but this game made it obvious that he has regressed to the level of Weeden, Frye, and all the others who passed through here. I'll be disgusted if he plays another snap for this team...let alone starts another game. Hopefully the Manziel lovers will be right. If not....here we go again. I think the reason that Pettine would not go to Manziel yesterday was because of him getting to the game late, and attitude. Personally. I would have hoped he would have made the change at halftime. I don't care that JF parties when he shouldn't. Why not?....he's not going to get in the game....so he doesn't really need to be ready or anything. It's sickening, the way the defense and special teams played, and then lose the game because the qb can't play at an average level. Pettine either needs to put Manziel in for Cincy or find someone else. Hoyer sucks. He has shown that he is as advertised.....back up only.....definitely proved me wrong.

    @lodilobo said:

    I've been a Hoyer supporter, but this game made it obvious that he has regressed to the level of Weeden, Frye, and all the others who passed through here. I'll be disgusted if he plays another snap for this team...let alone starts another game. Hopefully the Manziel lovers will be right. If not....here we go again. I think the reason that Pettine would not go to Manziel yesterday was because of him getting to the game late, and attitude. Personally. I would have hoped he would have made the change at halftime. I don't care that JF parties when he shouldn't. Why not?....he's not going to get in the game....so he doesn't really need to be ready or anything. It's sickening, the way the defense and special teams played, and then lose the game because the qb can't play at an average level. Pettine either needs to put Manziel in for Cincy or find someone else. Hoyer sucks. He has shown that he is as advertised.....back up only.....definitely proved me wrong.

    The Manziel fans better be right- we'll be on quarterback #22 or something like that- I'm getting damn tired of it.

    Regarding the red you're one injury snap away from getting in the game JFF, so it does behoove you to be ready.

    I'll agree, the way the D played, even average qb play- not a crappy 32 qbr would have gotten the win. Would have helped if Cundiff hadn't missed that FG either.

    @brownsfanatic said:

    pettines a fucking bitch Louis Brian piccolo fuck him. Manziel would've won us this game and we would have a great chance for the playoffs

    How do you know that Manziel would have won the game?

  • I'm ready for Manziel to take over.

    Are you?

  • I've been ready since halftime of the Buffalo game. It's time.

  • I was just thinking. . . we really do need another Manziel thread.

    The other 50 just aren't enough.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    I was just thinking. . . we really do need another Manziel thread.

    The other 50 just aren't enough.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I was just thinking. . . we really do need another Manziel thread.

    The other 50 just aren't enough.

    So... are you declaring an e-MERGE-ency?

    I'll hate myself tomorrow...

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  • I wonder who Walter wants to start.

  • start?....manziel?.....take over?......who???.....what are you talking about???.....did I miss something???

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @canton-dawg said:

    I was just thinking. . . we really do need another Manziel thread.

    The other 50 just aren't enough.

    So... are you declaring an e-MERGE-ency?

    I'll hate myself tomorrow...

    @tour2ma said:

    So... are you declaring an e-MERGE-ency?I'll hate myself tomorrow...

    I'll leave those decisions for the mods.

    Just don't hate on Ghoulardi, I idolized that guy as kid.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • Speaking of Ghoulardi, do you remember Bob Wells who played Houlihan with Big Chuck. I live in Palm Harbor, Florida and last week had to have my shoulder X-rayed. While waiting there was a man in front of me giving his name Bob Wells. Anyway I took a good look at him and asked him if he was Houlihan I knew already it was him he looks the same just older with a ton of white hair. I told him I grew up in Cleveland and watched him with my brothers and sisters while growing up. While we were talking the nurses and technicians were googling him and watching his skits on you tube. Small world. I still laugh when I think about the skit they did called the "Six Dollar Man"

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!

  • Let's do this.

    Johnny-Manziel-Halloween-768x1024.jpg

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
    miktoxicM 1 Reply

  • Oh we were talking about johnny? I'm talking about the mad hot chick on his nuts.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • But for real though I love this kids attitude. You should too. I think possibly we've gotten so used to being a doormat we're afraid to take a chance on someone with so much potential upside. What's the worst that can happen? We all lived through the worst already.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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