This game made me sick...
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Yes we lost by 1, but recall that Indy went for the 2 point conversion, twice. They only did that because they had nothing to lose doing it. Had Cundiff made the FG, they would've kicked the extra points instead. Then the outcome would've been a 27-27 game into OT.
No way I'm defending Cundiff here either. It's to help you through this pisser of a loss...
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They sold out to stop the run and hoyer couldn't make them pay for it. End of story. Don't Try to put this on the backs.
Thank youThey sold out to stop the run and hoyer couldn't make them pay for it. End of story. Don't Try to put this on the backs.
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Yes we lost by 1, but recall that Indy went for the 2 point conversion, twice. They only did that because they had nothing to lose doing it. Had Cundiff made the FG, they would've kicked the extra points instead. Then the outcome would've been a 27-27 game into OT.
No way I'm defending Cundiff here either. It's to help you through this pisser of a loss...
Yes we lost by 1, but recall that Indy went for the 2 point conversion, twice. They only did that because they had nothing to lose doing it. Had Cundiff made the FG, they would've kicked the extra points instead. Then the outcome would've been a 27-27 game into OT.
No way I'm defending Cundiff here either. It's to help you through this pisser of a loss...
Good point. But Billy is still disgusting.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
They sold out to stop the run and hoyer couldn't make them pay for it. End of story. Don't Try to put this on the backs.
They sold out to stop the run and hoyer couldn't make them pay for it. End of story. Don't Try to put this on the backs.
Yep . Everyone knows that's how you beat the browns with hoyer at qb.
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Yes we lost by 1, but recall that Indy went for the 2 point conversion, twice. They only did that because they had nothing to lose doing it. Had Cundiff made the FG, they would've kicked the extra points instead. Then the outcome would've been a 27-27 game into OT.
No way I'm defending Cundiff here either. It's to help you through this pisser of a loss...
Good point. But Billy is still disgusting.
Good point. But Billy is still disgusting.
Agreed. And you know what would've happened in OT. Indy with Vinatieri would've gotten into FG range and made it. If our offense by some miracle even got into a "normal" kicker's FG range...
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There's no reason not to start Johnny now. I'd rather see what he's got against NFL teams still playing for something than to watch him in preseason next year. And Hoyer better just stfu and say that's fine I'll come out and compete my ass off for the spot next year. It's completely conceivable that Hoyer starts next year, I'm fine with that. Maybe the fucker can give us a full season of good Brian next year, who knows. What I don't wanna hear is any cryin out of him. He hasn't played well, we need to see where Johnny's at and we need to see it now...not next year in TC and preseason. There's this feeling that if we give the offense to Johnny now that Hoyers done with....newsflash, in two weeks we all might be facepalming and saying wow Johnny's made some plays but just wow, that kid still has a year or two on the bench. We don't know.
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I'm going to throw one out there against the defense. Ok Hoyer was bad all game long and the O was terrible and the D was great. We all agree - right. No argument. Ok, Colts 4th and 1 from the Browns' 2 yard line, with 30 seconds on the clock. Running play to the right and it's clogged up. WTF is Witner doing? He's just waiting there on the right side on the one yard line. His reaction to the play is way too slow. As he finally moves in, he misses the tackle that would have ended the game.
That play made me sick!!!
I'm going to throw one out there against the defense. Ok Hoyer was bad all game long and the O was terrible and the D was great. We all agree - right. No argument. Ok, Colts 4th and 1 from the Browns' 2 yard line, with 30 seconds on the clock. Running play to the right and it's clogged up. WTF is Witner doing? He's just waiting there on the right side on the one yard line. His reaction to the play is way too slow. As he finally moves in, he misses the tackle that would have ended the game.
That play made me sick!!!
You're cherry picking one play where Whitner went wide? He took a wide angle cause he thought the back was trying to bounce, and he rightfully thought that he had help coming from the inside so if the back cuts he's still stuffed. Didn't happen that way, just a good spin to the inside by Boom. And it was 4th and inches btw. Honestly at that point I knew Indy was getting in somehow so it didnt' really bother me.
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I was sweating bullets when I saw we ran the ball to the right side.... I must admit I was so incredibly doubtful that we would get it, just because of the way the browns were so pumped up for that game and how that defense was playing. Good second effort by Boom, clearly a more decisive and explosive back than Richardson.
Smart trade for you guys, as long as Johnny Football pans out well.
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There's no reason not to start Johnny now. I'd rather see what he's got against NFL teams still playing for something than to watch him in preseason next year. And Hoyer better just stfu and say that's fine I'll come out and compete my ass off for the spot next year. It's completely conceivable that Hoyer starts next year, I'm fine with that. Maybe the fucker can give us a full season of good Brian next year, who knows. What I don't wanna hear is any cryin out of him. He hasn't played well, we need to see where Johnny's at and we need to see it now...not next year in TC and preseason. There's this feeling that if we give the offense to Johnny now that Hoyers done with....newsflash, in two weeks we all might be facepalming and saying wow Johnny's made some plays but just wow, that kid still has a year or two on the bench. We don't know.
There's no reason not to start Johnny now. I'd rather see what he's got against NFL teams still playing for something than to watch him in preseason next year. And Hoyer better just stfu and say that's fine I'll come out and compete my ass off for the spot next year. It's completely conceivable that Hoyer starts next year, I'm fine with that. Maybe the fucker can give us a full season of good Brian next year, who knows. What I don't wanna hear is any cryin out of him. He hasn't played well, we need to see where Johnny's at and we need to see it now...not next year in TC and preseason. There's this feeling that if we give the offense to Johnny now that Hoyers done with....newsflash, in two weeks we all might be facepalming and saying wow Johnny's made some plays but just wow, that kid still has a year or two on the bench. We don't know.
Hoyer next year? Lol, you're smoking crack, bro.
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They sold out to stop the run and hoyer couldn't make them pay for it. End of story. Don't Try to put this on the backs.
They sold out to stop the run and hoyer couldn't make them pay for it. End of story. Don't Try to put this on the backs.
Yep . Everyone knows that's how you beat the browns with hoyer at qb.
... and yet we won 7 games with that knowledge out there. It's execution, not scheme.
True the backs did not lose the game. They may not have contributed at all to the loss, but how 'bout the O-line? Hard to remember more than a couple gaping holes... Crow's TD run springs to mind, but then?
We ran for over 100, 111 in total, but at only a 3.6 ypc clip so the run game was not exactly clicking.
This is the most obvious it has been that Brian Hoyer was the #1 cause we lost the game... In past games, there were other factors, but if you watched this game it was obvious to see that if he played as a somewhat-halfway-decent game manager we would have won, but he didn't. He played terrible.
Yup... #1 cause without a doubt, and by a fair margin. But that does not mean the only cause... WRs and O-line certainly pitched in... maybe even the backs as well.
Only the D earned an exemption this outing... and maybe the STeamers excepting Billy.
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I give Hoyer about a 5 percent chance of being a Brown next year. He be gone.
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