Jay Glazer's Cheap Shot Reporting
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I've been on these boards two days and I can already tell that Bacon Hound has a uncomfortably wierd dislike of Johnny.
Bacon Hound, As a new poster to this board I have to believe others probably have shared this advice before, but opinions are fine, just back the shit up. Johnny was "Johnny Football" the year he won the Heisman. It's not an act. He likes to have fun. He also is a dedicated football player who works his ass off. Give the guy a break. Let's see how he does before declaring he's a bust.
I've been on these boards two days and I can already tell that Bacon Hound has a uncomfortably wierd dislike of Johnny.
It's called counterbalancing...
This fanbase is dying for something to rub in divisional opponents faces like the gay terrible towel crap. If manziel is great the steelers fans will bitch so hard about the money sign. And it will be sweet. Don't deny it. You know this to be true.
The fanbase is dying for wins... they are what rub gimmicks in the faces of our rivals. We've had two of those this year. Let's get two more. With or without a "gimmick" of our own. Makes zero difference to me...
OK would you really rather lose games behind a guy that gets up early eats a good breakfast and goes to church every Sunday? Really?
"Seriously you Johnny (lovers) are just looking for stuff to whine about." - WSS
Go Browns...
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Yeah there will always be guys like you who just want a win but if you don't think the money sign is going to catch on you're very mistaken
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Tour one more time, I love Brian Hoyer and wish he didn't suck.
And yes I am anxious to see what our first round draft pick and one of the most celebrated (and admittedly controversial) rookies in the history of the NFL can do.
Aren't you? Really?
I don't see why there has to be a disconnect.
If he turns out to be the worst quarterback in the league then I guess you guys can have a gloating party.
WSS
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Yeah there will always be guys like you who just want a win but if you don't think the money sign is going to catch on you're very mistaken
Yeah there will always be guys like you who just want a win but if you don't think the money sign is going to catch on you're very mistaken
And if the Cleveland Browns are successful under Johnny it will be nationwide like Fonzies "Heyyyyy".
Hopefully he's already filed for the trademark...
WSS
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We've supported blue collar players because that's who we get. LeBron sure as hell isn't a blue collar player. People like superstars. We've never had one on the browns since pretty much ever. Enjoy the buzz while it's around because it could dissipate pretty quickly and we could move on again and then Marvin Lewis won't be calling our qb a midget because he's not actually worth mentioning. Or he could be a huge douchey superstar for years. I'm hoping for option 2. Seems like you're hoping for option 1..
Gordon has that "superstar" quality and he's a kucklehead who doesn't know the plays and takes plays off when he's not happy. Give me the Andrew Hawkins' of the world who will run through a brick wall to play.
Give me the Andrew Hawkins' of the world who will run through a brick wall to play.
What you don't seem to get yet is that you are describing JFF, not just Hawkins. He would run through a brick wall just to win a game. That's how he's wired. Ask anyone who's known him in any sport he has ever played. He hates losing more than he loves winning or "spotlights". In the spring game final scrimmage after he had won the Heisman he took off around the left end, flipped the ball out to the halfback and then took on a couple of LB's so the back could score. Sumlin got all over him about it. His response? "I couldn't help it coach. I wanted the TD!"
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Walter don't know how long you've watched football, and am not being trying to that smart ass, but guys like Marvin Harrison, Barry Sanders, Steve Young, etc just did their job, smiled and lined up again.
Seriously you Jonny haters are just looking for stuff to whine about.
Think about your lists of grievances against Johnny and ask yourself if you really care.
OK would you really rather lose games behind a guy that gets up early eats a good breakfast and goes to church every Sunday? Really?
WSS
Seriously you Jonny haters are just looking for stuff to whine about.
Think about your lists of grievances against Johnny and ask yourself if you really care.
OK would you really rather lose games behind a guy that gets up early eats a good breakfast and goes to church every Sunday? Really?
WSS
Steve, all things being equal, I'd rather WIN with a guy like you just described. Say like a Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers? Now should JFF play like those two, I won't care much if he acts like Joe Namath did off the field.
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Tour one more time, I love Brian Hoyer and wish he didn't suck.
And yes I am anxious to see what our first round draft pick and one of the most celebrated (and admittedly controversial) rookies in the history of the NFL can do.
Aren't you? Really?
I don't see why there has to be a disconnect.
If he turns out to be the worst quarterback in the league then I guess you guys can have a gloating party.
WSS
Tour one more time, I love Brian Hoyer and wish he didn't suck.
And yes I am anxious to see what our first round draft pick and one of the most celebrated (and admittedly controversial) rookies in the history of the NFL can do.
Aren't you? Really?
I don't see why there has to be a disconnect.
If he turns out to be the worst quarterback in the league then I guess you guys can have a gloating party.
Yup... I am. Pretty much why I have told you as much at least twice now?
And my mod of your quote was not aimed at you... although I can see how you'd think that. You are not star-stuck. It was meant for those that are. Sometimes a knife cuts both ways...
My mod was meant for those who have been piling on Hoyer through all his efforts.
For those who treat any questioning of JM as heresy.
For those who want to see Johnny play regardless of whether the Browns win.
I want to see the Browns win... as do you. I now think the recipe for wins includes a QB change. I simply choose not to rejoice in the reason the change is now necessary as many, not necessarily you, do.
Go Browns...
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Yeah there will always be guys like you who just want a win but if you don't think the money sign is going to catch on you're very mistaken
And if the Cleveland Browns are successful under Johnny it will be nationwide like Fonzies "Heyyyyy".
Hopefully he's already filed for the trademark...
WSS
And if the Cleveland Browns are successful under Johnny it will be nationwide like Fonzies "Heyyyyy".
Another "sign" I have never and will never make...

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Give me the Andrew Hawkins' of the world who will run through a brick wall to play.
What you don't seem to get yet is that you are describing JFF, not just Hawkins. He would run through a brick wall just to win a game. That's how he's wired. Ask anyone who's known him in any sport he has ever played. He hates losing more than he loves winning or "spotlights". In the spring game final scrimmage after he had won the Heisman he took off around the left end, flipped the ball out to the halfback and then took on a couple of LB's so the back could score. Sumlin got all over him about it. His response? "I couldn't help it coach. I wanted the TD!"
What you don't seem to get yet is that you are describing JFF... He would run through a brick wall just to win a game. That's how he's wired.
We "get it". It's a perfect summary of my, and others', greatest fear...
Let us pray...
Lord, give Johnny the serenity to accept that there are walls he cannot runneth through, the courage to runneth through the walls he can, and the control over his competiveness to know the difference.
Amen
Go Browns...
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Yeah there will always be guys like you who just want a win but if you don't think the money sign is going to catch on you're very mistaken
but if you don't think the money sign is going to catch on you're very mistaken
yeah sorta like cam's superman sign caught on sunday vs. the saints.
do that at the wrong team at the wrong time and johnny will get bent like a choir boy over a catholic priest's knee.
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And if the Cleveland Browns are successful under Johnny it will be nationwide like Fonzies "Heyyyyy".
Another "sign" I have never and will never make...

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yeah me. i hate maestros.
i guess the times have changed. even white people act like they won the super bowl after a sack now. hey look at the final score numb nuts. i guess all the celebrating did exactly what now?
bunch of posers.
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Johnny going to rock this league.
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Well that's up to you bud. By the way did anyone see you close up of Paul Kruger making that choir directing motion with his hands Sunday? They showed that graphic twice going into commercials. Did that piss anybody off?
Ever feel like we're fighting and don't know why? I do.
Anyway...
Thanks for confirming my free will.... besides being juvenile, my doing the "money sign" would cost me $10,000. You can ask TCPO... maybe it was $1000.
I do not remember seeing Kruger's thing, but if he actually had done something meaningful, then it probably would not have bothered me and I likely would have forgotten it.
Context means something... even Greg Little got that... eventually.
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What you don't seem to get yet is that you are describing JFF... He would run through a brick wall just to win a game. That's how he's wired.
We "get it". It's a perfect summary of my, and others', greatest fear...
Let us pray...
Lord, give Johnny the serenity to accept that there are walls he cannot runneth through, the courage to runneth through the walls he can, and the control over his competiveness to know the difference.
Amen
Go Browns...
We "get it". It's a perfect summary of my, and others', greatest fear...
Let us pray...
Lord, give Johnny the serenity to accept that there are JJ Watts he cannot runneth through, the courage to runneth through the walls he can, and the control over his competiveness to know the difference.
Amen
Go Browns...
Fixed it for ya Tour.

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Well that's up to you bud. By the way did anyone see you close up of Paul Kruger making that choir directing motion with his hands Sunday? They showed that graphic twice going into commercials. Did that piss anybody off?
Ever feel like we're fighting and don't know why? I do.
Anyway...
Thanks for confirming my free will.... besides being juvenile, my doing the "money sign" would cost me $10,000. You can ask TCPO... maybe it was $1000.
I do not remember seeing Kruger's thing, but if he actually had done something meaningful, then it probably would not have bothered me and I likely would have forgotten it.
Context means something... even Greg Little got that... eventually.
Ever feel like we're fighting and don't know why? I do.
Sure. Almost every time bud. I guess I'm just tossing things out to the whole group, some of which seem outraged over the money sign. You are fine. No ill feelings from me whatsoever, hope it didn't seem that way.
Anyway...
Thanks for confirming my free will.... besides being juvenile, my doing the "money sign" would cost me $10,000. You can ask TCPO... maybe it was $1000.
I do not remember seeing Kruger's thing, but if he actually had done something meaningful, then it probably would not have bothered me and I likely would have forgotten it.
And it didn't bother me and I don't think it should bother anybody else. Unless there are some Paul Kruger haters out there.

Context means something... even Greg Little got that... eventually.
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We "get it". It's a perfect summary of my, and others', greatest fear...
Let us pray...
Lord, give Johnny the serenity to accept that there are JJ Watts he cannot runneth through, the courage to runneth through the walls he can, and the control over his competiveness to know the difference.
Amen
Go Browns...
Fixed it for ya Tour.

Fixed it for ya Tour.

Thanks, h... need all the help I can get...
Ever feel like we're fighting and don't know why? I do.
Sure. Almost every time bud. I guess I'm just tossing things out to the whole group, some of which seem outraged over the money sign. You are fine. No ill feelings from me whatsoever, hope it didn't seem that way.
Anyway...
Thanks for confirming my free will.... besides being juvenile, my doing the "money sign" would cost me $10,000. You can ask TCPO... maybe it was $1000.
I do not remember seeing Kruger's thing, but if he actually had done something meaningful, then it probably would not have bothered me and I likely would have forgotten it.
And it didn't bother me and I don't think it should bother anybody else. Unless there are some Paul Kruger haters out there.

Context means something... even Greg Little got that... eventually.
LOL... Cool...
Just out of curiosity...
What kinda review did you give "The Devil's Advocate"?
Both before and after the "rack" bonuses...
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