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  • @westside-steve said:

    You are all still missing my point. As a consumer? Sure. I'm always happy to get something for less. I didn't care if DIRECTV got screwed or not when channel 19 held out on the Browns games. On the other hand if I own the means of distribution.....

    WSS

    Hence why a lot of people are wanting google fiber and verizon fios in their area.

    @sadbrownsfan said:

    Hence why a lot of people are wanting google fiber and verizon fios in their area.

    True enough. I would imagine if they pulled their heads out of their ass communities counties States etc could run optic fiber underground and lease it to the retail company.

    or sell open source Internet to the citizens.

    WSS

  • Imagine if the electricity companies were able to do that? They didn't lay the wires, but they're still using them. These days, broadband is basically an essential service, at least it's treated that way in Europe.

  • @sadbrownsfan said:

    Hence why a lot of people are wanting google fiber and verizon fios in their area.

    True enough. I would imagine if they pulled their heads out of their ass communities counties States etc could run optic fiber underground and lease it to the retail company.

    or sell open source Internet to the citizens.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    True enough. I would imagine if they pulled their heads out of their ass communities counties States etc could run optic fiber underground and lease it to the retail company.

    or sell open source Internet to the citizens.

    WSS

    It would be a good thing for the state\cities, put a bunch of people to work building the infrastructure(paid by state or community) then charge the ISP a small tax to use the network or demand they charge lower rates.

    edit- be more beneficial than the keystone pipeline imo.

  • Which in no way means the keystone pipeline is a bad idea. But I understand. You have to get in a shot for your boy.

    😁

    WSS

  • but I agree with you on the community ownership if you can keep them straight.

    WSS

  • Keystone pipe is good. Why not? Obummer will veto but maybe will get over-ridden.

  • Which in no way means the keystone pipeline is a bad idea. But I understand. You have to get in a shot for your boy.

    😁

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Which in no way means the keystone pipeline is a bad idea. But I understand. You have to get in a shot for your boy.

    😁

    WSS

    Didn't mean to make it sound like I was against the keystone pipeline(more indifferent πŸ™‚ ), it just has more hurdles to pass(eminent domain for the land involved if the owners refuses to sell) with the company reaping the benefits in the long run more than the consumer(consumers get a job growth till completion vs the company saving money on transportation) compared to the benefits of fiber connections on consumers and small businesses.

  • So that should upset me because...?

    WSS

  • "The suit claims that heavy use of the secondary network can be a significant burden in electricity costs for subscribers. The suit cites a study that found that heavy use of the secondary Xfinity network adds β€œ30 to 40% more costs to a customer’s electricity bill” than the modem by itself does. On a national scale, the suit says, Comcast is pushing β€œtens of millions of dollars per month of the electricity bills needed to run their nationwide public Wi-Fi network onto consumers.”"

    That's why it should upset you. Beyond that straightforward, bottom line stuff, there's also the inherent security risks associated with allowing anyone to connect to your router.

  • Fuck, I have comcast

  • So I assume the electricity to run the modem is miniscule. As far as the security who gives a fuck?

    Woody... pretty scary huh? Gee I wonder if I vote for Obama (or Hillary ) they will save us?!

    😁

    WSS

  • Who gives a fuck about security? Well, most people, when you can scrape any information used there, such as account credentials, personal details, bank details, and subsequently commit all kinds of fraud at their expense.

  • Who gives a fuck about security? Well, most people, when you can scrape any information used there, such as account credentials, personal details, bank details, and subsequently commit all kinds of fraud at their expense.

    @gftchris said:

    Who gives a fuck about security? Well, most people, when you can scrape any information used there, such as account credentials, personal details, bank details, and subsequently commit all kinds of fraud at their expense.

    Heh.

    Every time I suggest we need DNA and or retinal scans for identification (and that should be on file for every American) people shit their pants about intrusion of governmentand privacy and blah blah blah.

    We use, get this, a 9 digit number printed on your identification cards and spoken out loud in front of groups of strangers when you go to the bank.

    Security?

    WSS

  • Ya, I'd much rather someone know the numbers of my debit card then to have full access into my computer and home network.

  • Ya, I'd much rather someone know the numbers of my debit card then to have full access into my computer and home network.

    @mld-woody said:

    Ya, I'd much rather someone know the numbers of my debit card then to have full access into my computer and home network.

    Which that's probably a lot easier to hack when you are online than from a van outside your house. But either way you sound awfully fearful for a guy who has a belly laugh over illegal aliens raping and murdering children and the like.

    πŸ˜‰

    WSS

  • Hmmm... I sound fearful? Really? Or are you just grasping at straws here? I must have missed all of the threads I started about scary cable companies doing scary cable company things...

    And yes, when I make fun of the scary brown people threads it's totally about the actual crime and victim, not the fear mongering story itself.

    That's two strikes. You're on fire today Steve.

    If this potentially opens up everyone's home wifi to hackers than yes, it is a bigger deal. I'm guessing Comcast has some idea of what they're doing, even if everyone hates them. I'm just making the point that a hacker getting full access to my computer is worse than someone knowing my debit card number

  • Hmmm... I sound fearful? Really? Or are you just grasping at straws here? I must have missed all of the threads I started about scary cable companies doing scary cable company things...

    And yes, when I make fun of the scary brown people threads it's totally about the actual crime and victim, not the fear mongering story itself.

    That's two strikes. You're on fire today Steve.

    If this potentially opens up everyone's home wifi to hackers than yes, it is a bigger deal. I'm guessing Comcast has some idea of what they're doing, even if everyone hates them. I'm just making the point that a hacker getting full access to my computer is worse than someone knowing my debit card number

    @mld-woody said:

    Hmmm... I sound fearful? Really?

    Yeah.

    But I realize that fear mongering about big evil corporations is hip.

    WSS

  • And apparently putting words in my mouth is always in style.

  • And apparently putting words in my mouth is always in style.

    @mld-woody said:

    And apparently putting words in my mouth is always in style.

    Gee whiz little touchy boy, you sound at least as scared as any of the guys who post stories about illegal immigrants killing children. You think that's funny so I don't see why you're so upset.

    WSS