2x Australian Rugby MVP wants a shot at the NFL
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Willis McGahee is a dried up corpse
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Yeah McGahee is ancient.
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Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.
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Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.
Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.
Australia has good teams also. We played against an English Royal Marine Rugby team and got our asses handed to us. Had 24 stitches above my left eye. These guys had been playing since they were young, and most of us had just started or played 1 or 2 years. Afterward we had a keg party. Damn good people.
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Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.
Australia has good teams also. We played against an English Royal Marine Rugby team and got our asses handed to us. Had 24 stitches above my left eye. These guys had been playing since they were young, and most of us had just started or played 1 or 2 years. Afterward we had a keg party. Damn good people.
Australia has good teams also. We played against an English Royal Marine Rugby team and got our asses handed to us. Had 24 stitches above my left eye. These guys had been playing since they were young, and most of us had just started or played 1 or 2 years. Afterward we had a keg party. Damn good people.
Yep, the australians are among the best. Not so much at american football though!
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Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.
Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.
What is English gridiron? Something you cook on?
Nevertheless......anyone is entitled to a tryout. The skillset required of a rugby player may not be the same as for a football player, but some of the instincts could translate.
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Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.
What is English gridiron? Something you cook on?
Nevertheless......anyone is entitled to a tryout. The skillset required of a rugby player may not be the same as for a football player, but some of the instincts could translate.
What is English gridiron? Something you cook on?
Nevertheless......anyone is entitled to a tryout. The skillset required of a rugby player may not be the same as for a football player, but some of the instincts could translate.
The technical skills will have some crossover, but the physical skills will be pretty much the same. As mentioned before, a game of rugby is like one long broken play, so punt returns might be his best place to start, and special teams in general. In a simple scheme, running back is possible.
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What is English gridiron? Something you cook on?
Nevertheless......anyone is entitled to a tryout. The skillset required of a rugby player may not be the same as for a football player, but some of the instincts could translate.
The technical skills will have some crossover, but the physical skills will be pretty much the same. As mentioned before, a game of rugby is like one long broken play, so punt returns might be his best place to start, and special teams in general. In a simple scheme, running back is possible.
The technical skills will have some crossover, but the physical skills will be pretty much the same. As mentioned before, a game of rugby is like one long broken play, so punt returns might be his best place to start, and special teams in general. In a simple scheme, running back is possible.
It would depend on how you define "simple", also when and where he would get carries. I will confess my ignorance on the game of rugby. Although I'm certain they share a common theme - ball security.
However reading your blockers/blocking point, setting up tacklers in the hole, keeping your pad level low might be completely new concepts. I'd say start on special teams and work there. I do wish this man the best of luck,
I just hope he realizes he'll be playing along side some of the greatest athletes in the world, regardless of size.
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Simple meaning you tell him to follow his fullback, meaning the fullback has to know the plays a lot more, and he only needs to know which direction to pick up the hand off. Goal-line situations, maybe.
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Simple meaning you tell him to follow his fullback, meaning the fullback has to know the plays a lot more, and he only needs to know which direction to pick up the hand off. Goal-line situations, maybe.
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He likes to Gamble. Wink Wink.
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Got any good futbol players over there that can kick?
Got any good futbol players over there that can kick?
Aussie Rules players can all kick, the pressure of NFL would be the issue
If I were the Browns, I'd be scouting here for kicking talent.
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Rugby is utter shit so the less it infects the NFL and indeed, my life, the better.
Rugby is utter shit so the less it infects the NFL and indeed, my life, the better.
would have to agree
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and let me clarify my statements on Rugby or aussie league whatever, it all looks the same to me. In no way shape or form did I intend to come off like Rugby isn't it physical...oh hell it is. In fact Rugby players are probably in better overall shape than 60-70% of the NFL. They have to be, it's a completely different game. I still stand behind my lateral remark. In none of those video's that I looked at does rugby or aussie league look remotely as North/South as the NFL. Not even close. Only NFL WR'ers though come close to covering as much distance per time over the course of a game than Rugby players do. But because Rugby players are constantly moving they don't bring the same impact at the point of attack that players who burst for 10 seconds and rest for 45. They don't...period. If NFL players played without helmets the season wouldn't last 2 weeks....if they played like they do now. The game of football would look vastly different if it were played as upright as Rugby. It wouldn't look right at all. For those of you that watch Rugby would you like the play to be halted every 10 or so seconds for 45 seconds? No...wouldn't look right for that game.
Look toughness wise obviously this Hayne kid could play. Probably be durable as fuck too. That's not the issue. But there would be a learning curve as players would be coming at him differently...different angles, different speeds. They physics changes when you put pads and a helmet on. That isn't a cut on Rugby and I get really irritated when they act butthurt about this subject. I have aussie and kiwi friends who I play an online game with from time to time and we chat on coms this subject comes up probably 2-3 times a month and they always act like Americans are pussy's for wearing helmets blah blah. They don't get the difference in physics between a 300lb man crashing his nog into you vs someone in the low 200's. One of Hayne's biggest hurdles would be adjusting to the fact that while he would be able to outrun a lot of front 7 guys to the sidelines, the first time he turns upfield and a 300lb lineman hits him moving at similar speeds that he's used to guys his size coming at him....he's not gonna know where he is for a moment or two. Those same 300lb lineman wouldn't hang on a Rugby field for more than a minute before they started walking...than obviously their force is diminished. But on a football field where they've tailored their metabolic conditioning to produce tremendous amount of force for a short period of time, they would annihilate Rugby players who aren't ready for that.
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and let me clarify my statements on Rugby or aussie league whatever, it all looks the same to me. In no way shape or form did I intend to come off like Rugby isn't it physical...oh hell it is. In fact Rugby players are probably in better overall shape than 60-70% of the NFL. They have to be, it's a completely different game. I still stand behind my lateral remark. In none of those video's that I looked at does rugby or aussie league look remotely as North/South as the NFL. Not even close. Only NFL WR'ers though come close to covering as much distance per time over the course of a game than Rugby players do. But because Rugby players are constantly moving they don't bring the same impact at the point of attack that players who burst for 10 seconds and rest for 45. They don't...period. If NFL players played without helmets the season wouldn't last 2 weeks....if they played like they do now. The game of football would look vastly different if it were played as upright as Rugby. It wouldn't look right at all. For those of you that watch Rugby would you like the play to be halted every 10 or so seconds for 45 seconds? No...wouldn't look right for that game.
Look toughness wise obviously this Hayne kid could play. Probably be durable as fuck too. That's not the issue. But there would be a learning curve as players would be coming at him differently...different angles, different speeds. They physics changes when you put pads and a helmet on. That isn't a cut on Rugby and I get really irritated when they act butthurt about this subject. I have aussie and kiwi friends who I play an online game with from time to time and we chat on coms this subject comes up probably 2-3 times a month and they always act like Americans are pussy's for wearing helmets blah blah. They don't get the difference in physics between a 300lb man crashing his nog into you vs someone in the low 200's. One of Hayne's biggest hurdles would be adjusting to the fact that while he would be able to outrun a lot of front 7 guys to the sidelines, the first time he turns upfield and a 300lb lineman hits him moving at similar speeds that he's used to guys his size coming at him....he's not gonna know where he is for a moment or two. Those same 300lb lineman wouldn't hang on a Rugby field for more than a minute before they started walking...than obviously their force is diminished. But on a football field where they've tailored their metabolic conditioning to produce tremendous amount of force for a short period of time, they would annihilate Rugby players who aren't ready for that.
and let me clarify my statements on Rugby or aussie league whatever, it all looks the same to me. In no way shape or form did I intend to come off like Rugby isn't it physical...oh hell it is. In fact Rugby players are probably in better overall shape than 60-70% of the NFL. They have to be, it's a completely different game. I still stand behind my lateral remark. In none of those video's that I looked at does rugby or aussie league look remotely as North/South as the NFL. Not even close. Only NFL WR'ers though come close to covering as much distance per time over the course of a game than Rugby players do. But because Rugby players are constantly moving they don't bring the same impact at the point of attack that players who burst for 10 seconds and rest for 45. They don't...period. If NFL players played without helmets the season wouldn't last 2 weeks....if they played like they do now. The game of football would look vastly different if it were played as upright as Rugby. It wouldn't look right at all. For those of you that watch Rugby would you like the play to be halted every 10 or so seconds for 45 seconds? No...wouldn't look right for that game.
Look toughness wise obviously this Hayne kid could play. Probably be durable as fuck too. That's not the issue. But there would be a learning curve as players would be coming at him differently...different angles, different speeds. They physics changes when you put pads and a helmet on. That isn't a cut on Rugby and I get really irritated when they act butthurt about this subject. I have aussie and kiwi friends who I play an online game with from time to time and we chat on coms this subject comes up probably 2-3 times a month and they always act like Americans are pussy's for wearing helmets blah blah. They don't get the difference in physics between a 300lb man crashing his nog into you vs someone in the low 200's. One of Hayne's biggest hurdles would be adjusting to the fact that while he would be able to outrun a lot of front 7 guys to the sidelines, the first time he turns upfield and a 300lb lineman hits him moving at similar speeds that he's used to guys his size coming at him....he's not gonna know where he is for a moment or two. Those same 300lb lineman wouldn't hang on a Rugby field for more than a minute before they started walking...than obviously their force is diminished. But on a football field where they've tailored their metabolic conditioning to produce tremendous amount of force for a short period of time, they would annihilate Rugby players who aren't ready for that.
Well, also....as has been explained to me by Howie and others.....in Rugby there is no such thing as Blocking. Apparently you are not allowed to hit a guy who does not have the ball...be it the offense or defense. And we know that in football on any given play there can be at least 9 or 10 guys hitting each other full blast. So there is that difference in terms of physicality.
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Rugby is utter shit so the less it infects the NFL and indeed, my life, the better.
Well since it gave birth to the game we love, I'm not going to get too down on rugby.Rugby is utter shit so the less it infects the NFL and indeed, my life, the better.
http://www.cfl.ca/article/birth-of-north-american-football-137-years
Aussie Rules players can all kick...
Equally well?
And didn't we plow this field months ago about your guy trying to become a NFL RB? Or is this just a(nother) misguided Deja vu moment for me?
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and let me clarify my statements on Rugby or aussie league whatever, it all looks the same to me. In no way shape or form did I intend to come off like Rugby isn't it physical...oh hell it is. In fact Rugby players are probably in better overall shape than 60-70% of the NFL. They have to be, it's a completely different game. I still stand behind my lateral remark. In none of those video's that I looked at does rugby or aussie league look remotely as North/South as the NFL. Not even close. Only NFL WR'ers though come close to covering as much distance per time over the course of a game than Rugby players do. But because Rugby players are constantly moving they don't bring the same impact at the point of attack that players who burst for 10 seconds and rest for 45. They don't...period. If NFL players played without helmets the season wouldn't last 2 weeks....if they played like they do now. The game of football would look vastly different if it were played as upright as Rugby. It wouldn't look right at all. For those of you that watch Rugby would you like the play to be halted every 10 or so seconds for 45 seconds? No...wouldn't look right for that game.
Look toughness wise obviously this Hayne kid could play. Probably be durable as fuck too. That's not the issue. But there would be a learning curve as players would be coming at him differently...different angles, different speeds. They physics changes when you put pads and a helmet on. That isn't a cut on Rugby and I get really irritated when they act butthurt about this subject. I have aussie and kiwi friends who I play an online game with from time to time and we chat on coms this subject comes up probably 2-3 times a month and they always act like Americans are pussy's for wearing helmets blah blah. They don't get the difference in physics between a 300lb man crashing his nog into you vs someone in the low 200's. One of Hayne's biggest hurdles would be adjusting to the fact that while he would be able to outrun a lot of front 7 guys to the sidelines, the first time he turns upfield and a 300lb lineman hits him moving at similar speeds that he's used to guys his size coming at him....he's not gonna know where he is for a moment or two. Those same 300lb lineman wouldn't hang on a Rugby field for more than a minute before they started walking...than obviously their force is diminished. But on a football field where they've tailored their metabolic conditioning to produce tremendous amount of force for a short period of time, they would annihilate Rugby players who aren't ready for that.
Well, also....as has been explained to me by Howie and others.....in Rugby there is no such thing as Blocking. Apparently you are not allowed to hit a guy who does not have the ball...be it the offense or defense. And we know that in football on any given play there can be at least 9 or 10 guys hitting each other full blast. So there is that difference in terms of physicality.
Well, also....as has been explained to me by Howie and others.....in Rugby there is no such thing as Blocking. Apparently you are not allowed to hit a guy who does not have the ball...be it the offense or defense. And we know that in football on any given play there can be at least 9 or 10 guys hitting each other full blast. So there is that difference in terms of physicality.
This is true, ball carrier and rucks/scrums aside, it's essentially non-contact. But then, you can only have serious blocking when everybody knows what they're doing, so set plays are required. When the game doesn't stop like in rugby, it's not possible.
And didn't we plow this field months ago about your guy trying to become a NFL RB? Or is this just a(nother) misguided Deja vu moment for me?
I thought so.
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Well, also....as has been explained to me by Howie and others.....in Rugby there is no such thing as Blocking. Apparently you are not allowed to hit a guy who does not have the ball...be it the offense or defense. And we know that in football on any given play there can be at least 9 or 10 guys hitting each other full blast. So there is that difference in terms of physicality.
This is true, ball carrier and rucks/scrums aside, it's essentially non-contact. But then, you can only have serious blocking when everybody knows what they're doing, so set plays are required. When the game doesn't stop like in rugby, it's not possible.
And didn't we plow this field months ago about your guy trying to become a NFL RB? Or is this just a(nother) misguided Deja vu moment for me?
I thought so.
This is true, ball carrier and rucks/scrums aside, it's essentially non-contact. But then, you can only have serious blocking when everybody knows what they're doing, so set plays are required. When the game doesn't stop like in rugby, it's not possible.
Of course it would be possible to have blocking in rugby if the rules allow.....if your teammate has the ball you just knock the guys on the other team who could possibly tackle your teammate on their asses. No set play is required for that. I mean, anyone that has played backyard or street football....where there are no set plays, knows that. I got a zipper on my knee to prove it.
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OK sure, it'd be like less-structured special teams for 80 minutes. But for effective, lane-opening blocking, you need structure.
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