Jonathan Paul Manziel
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He was rolling to his left when he threw wide to Benji.
GO BROWNS!!
It was a 1/4 roll left; a play we've seen before this season. JM stopped and set, but pressure in JM's face caused him to bail rather than stride (perfectly understandable) and produced the errant throw wide of Benji (S12P5).
On the drives 2nd play (S12P2) he rolled left and threw a strike to Austin. It was a short pass, but right on the money.
Whether supportive or critical of any player, it's kinda important to get the facts straight.
Go Browns!
It was a 1/4 roll left; a play we've seen before this season. JM stopped and set, but pressure in JM's face caused him to bail rather than stride (perfectly understandable) and produced the errant throw wide of Benji (S12P5).On the drives 2nd play (S12P2) he rolled left and threw a strike to Austin. It was a short pass, but right on the money.Whether supportive or critical of any player, it's kinda important to get the facts straight.Go Browns!
Not trying to spew inaccuracies, just trying to go off of what little memory this ol-timer has left.
i don't think anyone here wants to see manziel fail, in fact i'm sure it's quite the opposite.
Bingo! I want to see JFF kick ass, but I'm not going to be presumptuous enough to say that his college success will carry over into the NFL. We all know how well that has worked out over the years.
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i don't think anyone here wants to see manziel fail, in fact i'm sure it's quite the opposite.
the problem is (that you aggie fans refuse to comprehend) that every time one of you texas a and m fans/alum or what-have-yous opens their pie hole to profess to us how manziel changed the college football landscape, is the best thing since sliced bread, will be the next willie mays and the first man on uranus is just nauseating. since the browns punched manziel's ticket @22 in this year's draft, this board has been inundated with fans from 'outside'. do browns fans despise new browns fans? of course not.
do people get disturbed when some stranger comes into their house and tells you your recliner sucks and yours is better?
g@# damn right.
do people get disturbed when some stranger comes into their house and tells you your recliner sucks and yours is better?
Your recliner sucks and mines better! LOL!
Cool down mik. I was not trying to say JM is even close to Jim Brown. What I was attempting to say was that when you see someone play a position like you've never seen before it tends to make you want to follow their career to see where it leads. A lot of non-Browns fans back in the day followed Jim Brown (me included) because he did things we'd never seen before.
My hope is that some day JM will be talked about in the same breath as the great JB. Besides I plan to hang around another 50 years to see if he reaches that level of reverence.
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do people get disturbed when some stranger comes into their house and tells you your recliner sucks and yours is better?
Your recliner sucks and mines better! LOL!
Cool down mik. I was not trying to say JM is even close to Jim Brown. What I was attempting to say was that when you see someone play a position like you've never seen before it tends to make you want to follow their career to see where it leads. A lot of non-Browns fans back in the day followed Jim Brown (me included) because he did things we'd never seen before.
My hope is that some day JM will be talked about in the same breath as the great JB. Besides I plan to hang around another 50 years to see if he reaches that level of reverence.
:lol:Besides I plan to hang around another 50 years to see if he reaches that level of reverence.
:lol:yeah man. still searching for that fountain of youth.
sad thing is someone told me years ago it was hidden in a bottle of gin.
still lookin!
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" Ag69 informed us long ago of JM's Shortstop prowess explaining his ability to roll left and throw effectively across his body. You did know he played SS right? A real fan would..."
Honest to God, I almost put the shortstop info in there, but I didn't want to go overboard,as I (ahem) tend to do.
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I cant wait to see the kid play!
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do people get disturbed when some stranger comes into their house and tells you your recliner sucks and yours is better?
Your recliner sucks and mines better! LOL!
Cool down mik. I was not trying to say JM is even close to Jim Brown. What I was attempting to say was that when you see someone play a position like you've never seen before it tends to make you want to follow their career to see where it leads. A lot of non-Browns fans back in the day followed Jim Brown (me included) because he did things we'd never seen before.
My hope is that some day JM will be talked about in the same breath as the great JB. Besides I plan to hang around another 50 years to see if he reaches that level of reverence.
:lol:My hope is that some day JM will be talked about in the same breath as the great JB. ...except some are doing it already. Jim Brown's not a good analogy, as there are no comparisons between the 2....except they were both Browns....
Besides I plan to hang around another 50 years to see if he reaches that level of reverence.
:lol:...50 years???....hahahaha....shit, he's already reached it with you guys now...thats pretty obvious.....its that reverence, dripping like ooze from your posts, that makes us all want to puke...... -
had a chuckle at the difference in lengths of Pettine/Jm's statements vs Hoyers. Says everything.
had a chuckle at the difference in lengths of Pettine/Jm's statements vs Hoyers. Says everything.
So does your top hobby... pulling the wings off of flies.
Paul Brown would be proud of Brian...
You want The Browns to lose because of Johnny?
You're such a fucking loser you should be banned, you're so jealous it's pathetic. You're embarrassing.
Nah... folks that gratuitously start new threads just because they have a new bit of "news" first should go first.
Z stepping on your "JM to Start" thread must have stung like a bitch...
K. And like I told you before, you're free to go through my post history and see I wanted Manziel to start last week. Or you can keep leaving obscure remarks
Damn, if you'd only tweeted it...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't expect miracles. Not only has Josh Gordon not work with the team all season he hasn't worked with Johnny at all. And quarterbacks do you need to get in rhythm with their favorite receivers.
I also hope that Kyle Shanahan is able to hold sway over the couch and tailor an offense suited to Johnny rather than try to force him into the role of the non quarterback centric offense .
WSS
As long as this gameplan doesn't include running a smaller, lighter QB than RG3 a bunch of times - I'll be content.
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The entire state of Texas gets this game on fox according to 506Sports. I'm sure many Aggie fans and jerry Jones will be watching.
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And the QB pissed it away, that's why Johnny is your new QB and there isn't anything you can do about it except take it to the face.
Wha, exactly, did you have to do with the decision to start Manziel?
Wha, exactly, did you have to do with the decision to start Manziel?
TCPO you haven't been around much so you probably missed the memo..................................Walter is actually Haslam's love child and is the puppet master pulling all the strings ESPECIALLY Johnny's string
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had a chuckle at the difference in lengths of Pettine/Jm's statements vs Hoyers. Says everything.
So does your top hobby... pulling the wings off of flies.
Paul Brown would be proud of Brian...
You want The Browns to lose because of Johnny?
You're such a fucking loser you should be banned, you're so jealous it's pathetic. You're embarrassing.
Nah... folks that gratuitously start new threads just because they have a new bit of "news" first should go first.
Z stepping on your "JM to Start" thread must have stung like a bitch...
K. And like I told you before, you're free to go through my post history and see I wanted Manziel to start last week. Or you can keep leaving obscure remarks
Damn, if you'd only tweeted it...
Z stepping on your "JM to Start" thread must have stung like a bitch...
No actually it didn't, I'm always 2 steps ahead of you in the information and glad it got merged.
I'm not a 17 year teen who goes dissecting everything thread and making snarky, non contributing comments, get over yourself dad.
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Well again, of the two quarterbacks we have on the roster which one was out for a year due to an injury sustained while running the ball?
WSS
exactly why we don't need another.
exactly why we don't need another.
Ok.
What can I say.
So if he gets killed in the first three starts we still have BH.
Or trade him today for a second package it up with our first two number ones to move up for Jamarcus Winston.
I wish BH was better but he's not. So I guess I'll cross my fingers and root for Johnny until somebody proves me wrong.
WSS
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Absolutely not. But you can bet plenty on here will.
Absolutely not. But you can bet plenty on here will.
I'd say my usual "name three", but you can probably do that... so... name six...
Another bar raised by Johnny Manziel!
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My hope is that some day JM will be talked about in the same breath as the great JB. ...except some are doing it already. Jim Brown's not a good analogy, as there are no comparisons between the 2....except they were both Browns....
Besides I plan to hang around another 50 years to see if he reaches that level of reverence.
:lol:...50 years???....hahahaha....shit, he's already reached it with you guys now...thats pretty obvious.....its that reverence, dripping like ooze from your posts, that makes us all want to puke......shit, he's already reached it with you guys now...thats pretty obvious.....its that reverence, dripping like ooze from your posts, that makes us all want to puke......
LOL! We didn't call him Johnny Legend for nothing you know. And as we would always say, "And the legend continues."
PS-guess what Boomer Esiason, Michael Irvin and Phil Simms have in common today-they all picked the Browns to beat Cinn. "even with a rookie QB".
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The game will be the same time as the Texans game. I bet the Browns game gets twice the viewers.
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The game will be the same time as the Texans game. I bet the Browns game gets twice the viewers.
The game will be the same time as the Texans game. I bet the Browns game gets twice the viewers.
will they have both telecasts live in TX? how is that possible? just askin...
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We just need a smart and effective game manager to move the chains and get us in the endzone a couple times... I hope Johnny is our man to do that...
I think that is exactly what shanny is planning using the skills he now knows that Manziel has. I expect more moving pockets, more rollout/naked bootleg and more draw/play action. I also expect him to stretch the field early so the safeties don't do to him what they did to Hoyer. First time they see one sailing 60 yds over their heads with better accuracy I think they stop cheating up to stop the run.
I think that is exactly what shanny is planning using the skills he now knows that Manziel has. I expect more moving pockets, more rollout/naked bootleg and more draw/play action. I also expect him to stretch the field early so the safeties don't do to him what they did to Hoyer. First time they see one sailing 60 yds over their heads with better accuracy I think they stop cheating up to stop the run.
One reason I'm psyched to see Johnny play is the Browns defense. Johnny should feel much less pressure to do "too much" because his defense is so good. I'm anxious to see how well he manages the game. One thing he was (hopefully still is) good at is third down. He's just a killer on converting third downs.
Well since Shanny has not employed a moving pocket all year it's have to be "more". Even his 1/4 roll designs are nearly naked with only a TE or RB peeling back. Naked boots and PAP are Shanny's staples. Draws? Maybe 2 including the last play of the Buffalo game.
Bring on the Pistol and the Read Option look. However, as I have said before, minus the run option early. Altogether, if we lead. Just release it into the RB's belly or pull it as a new PAP look.
The fact that you are curious as to whether JM can gear down his game does not give me comfort.
I have a theory that 70-85% of die hard NFL fans 1) never graduated college with a 4 yr degree or 2) never graduated college with a football team worth a damn.
Don't take data in Ohio... we're all Honorary Buckeyes. It will skew your survey results.
Well almost all. You can ask Woody...
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I think Texans game is same time on CBS.
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retired from the madison ave ad biz when i was 48. (still working tho) no college necessary. just a quick wit and a keen creative mind.
yeah that college thing......
i guess you don't need a piece of paper to distinguish shit when you see it, hear it or smell it. i think you might fall into one of those categories.
r u the "plop, plop, fizz, fizz, oh what a relief it is" guy......
r u the "plop, plop, fizz, fizz, oh what a relief it is" guy......
Which paled compared to "Measy Mysey Ballsey"...
That's because we have different priorities...
I am a die hard Aggie and will support former Ags everywhere. Did you know ALL of Texas (Dallas, Austin, SA, Houston) switched from covering the Packers v Bills to the Browns v Bengals because Manziel is starting? You guys just picked up a few million more in audience watching your game. Are you really going to bitch about it because we want to see how the undersized kid from Texas with a gunslinger and road runner mentality does? You think this is singled out to Aggies? Watch ratings across the country when Manziel is involved. It is Tebow 2.0. I'm sorry that ruined your day. By the way, the Browns have a good D or having a shitty QB in Hoyer hasn't made you any more relevant. Johnny has, and with that you get a bunch of idiots like me following the Browns. You are welcome, dumbass.
Or would rather slip back into irrelevance and importance like you have been for the last 2 decades?
With every new arrival that call gets harder and harder...
There's no former player section at AggieFootbal.com/Forums?
Why would we give a flying fuck what regions are watching what regular season games?
And finally, how'd Tebow 1.0 work out?
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Ive read this argument plenty of times here on this forum. I dont particularly understand it because it sounds like a whiny kid trying to keep others out of his sandbox. I cant speak for anyone else, but i love football. I find it enjoyable and entertaining. Its not life or death to me. I am a fan of many things, some more passionately than others. I dont see the difference between following a team vs a single person. I love boxing too and its a single person sport. You can be a fan of whatever you want. Not sure why you care so much about others fandom. BTW, to the outside world, i think they find die-hard NFL fans odd. Sitting down for hours and hours watching young boys run around in spandex.
They wear spandex?
Ever, you're one of the better ones. We all know that... you worked at becoming a Browns' fan. So as a fellow Browns' fan, please explain one thing to me.
In his interviews since the "announcement" Johnny seems more than willing to let his game on Sunday speak for itself.
Why can't his legions of fans do the same?
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