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What About Suh?

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  • gftChris gftChrisG
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    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    Yeah, I wasn't serious about it. Hope he doesn't end up in our division.

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    • Osiris OsirisO Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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      OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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      Dunno, their must be a reason Detroit isn't resigning him. Would rather we got a DT in the draft.

      "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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        MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
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        I could give you 20 million reasons why Detroit isn't signing him.....

        Character issues and 20 mill dont make good bed fellows.....

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          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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          Suh is a scumbag but he can play. Does he have any off the field issues? If not, I would like him as a Brown. Not that I think that would ever happen.

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            From what I read, the guy seems like a pillar of the community who will stomp your balls in a pile if you are playing football against him.

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            • RoyceRolls R
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              R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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              The Lions know exactly what they have in Suh and they don't want to pay him. That speaks volumes to me, let Dan Snyder overpay for him or trade away a handful of high draft picks.

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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                I'd take him in a heartbeat. We need a mean DL.

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                • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                  I'd take him in a heartbeat. We need a mean DL.

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                  ComeonmanC Comeonman wrote on last edited by
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                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  I'd take him in a heartbeat. We need a mean DL.

                  I would too. I just don't want to be the stupid team that overpays for him. I think for Lions it's definitely money not character. They have three of the top 10 highest payed players in the NFL
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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    Character issues or not... $20 mil per year for a DT? Really? Is any DT worth QB money?

                    You can't pay 'em all folks. Let this one go.

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                    • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                      Character issues or not... $20 mil per year for a DT? Really? Is any DT worth QB money?

                      You can't pay 'em all folks. Let this one go.

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                      WinstonLegthighW WinstonLegthigh wrote on last edited by WinstonLegthigh
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Character issues or not... $20 mil per year for a DT? Really? Is any DT worth QB money?

                      You can't pay 'em all folks. Let this one go.

                      Agreed, I don't like his on the feild dirty play, def more fit for the stoolers, but I would love to have him. Still, he isn't worth that kind of money.
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                      • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                        Character issues or not... $20 mil per year for a DT? Really? Is any DT worth QB money?

                        You can't pay 'em all folks. Let this one go.

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                        MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                        @tour2ma said:

                        .. $20 mil per year for a DT? Really? Is any DT worth QB money?

                        You can't pay 'em all folks. Let this one go.

                        Thats it....the cost far outweighs the value....even if he was the nicest guy in the world...

                        Some quick numbers.....Suh has a total cap hit(this year) of $22, 400, 000......22 million folks....and he'll be looking for more.....

                        To give some perspective, our entire defensive line of Rubin, A. Bryant, D. Bryant, Taylor, Hughes, and Winn all combine for a cap hit of $16, 500, 000.....total....so, our WHOLE line cost $6 million less than that one man.....

                        Suh makes the same as Mack and Thomas combined....

                        and more than Haden, Whitner, Skrine, Gilbert and Gipson combined(19.7)....isn't there a thread on our DB's being the best group in the NFL?....is a D lineman more valuable than the whole "best" defensive backfield in the league???

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                          T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                          I'm good on suh

                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                            I'm good on suh

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                            MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                            @the-cysko-kid said:

                            I'm good on suh

                            At $22 mil?....really?

                            So, which starters should we cut to pay for him?(about 5 or 6 good ones should do it)

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                              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                              No I'm good on him. We don't need him. He's a dirty player and I don't want to see him in brown. I'm good.

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                                Gotcha!...It's good that you're good.....😉

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                                  andeftwA andeftw wrote on last edited by
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                                  As a Packers fan (and a Browns fan secondly), I've seen plenty of this guy ever since I started following football a few years ago.

                                  He's a terrific player whom you have to account for on any play, but he's not worth what it's going to cost to bring him to Cleveland. He's on the same level as Gerald McCoy without the injury concerns but with character concerns. If McCoy's getting 14 mil a year, there's no way Suh is worth more than 15.

                                  Both the Browns and the Packers play a 3-4, so I don't see him as a good fit. A 3-4 DE is more of a run-stopper than a pass rusher, so you're giving up your teams future financial flexibility to play a guy out of position. Don't think Farmer is that kind of guy.

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                                  • miktoxicM miktoxic

                                    did he play for a and m?

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    @miktoxic said:

                                    did he play for a and m?

                                    Nebraska, same difference.

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                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                      Hell no, why was this even brought up? 20m? Holy fucking shit. We've got one of the best if not THE best cap situation in all of football....and we'd torpedo that right in the balls with one signing. Even if we moved to a 4-3 don't want him. IF he'd sign for 8-10m, that's a different story. The only high value front 7 FA I want the Browns looking at in the offseason is Justin Houston.

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                                      • miktoxic miktoxicM
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                                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                        i agree with diehard that we need some mean and nasties on our line(S). gotta think there will be a couple for farmer to choose from in the draft next year.

                                        start feeding them pink insulation and dickel.

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                                          Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                                          Getting Suh could cause other players to demand more money. But a Super Bowl would shut them up. I still think the answer is to draft a younger version. Detroit is unloading his salary for a reason. They can't pay the other players. When one guy makes all that money teams tend to flounder. I.e. Jay Cutler, Flacco, .

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