Jonathan Paul Manziel
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You know, regardless of wether he turns out to be a star or a complete bust, Johnny F. does have a certain effect that is hard to describe. I am a Patriots fan and the only reason I joined this board was to pipe in on the Johnny Football thread, and I ended up enjoying this site far more than the Patriots fan forum... probably because most Patriots fans are stubborn rude conceited a-holes who refuse to have a legitimate conversation or difference of opinion without arguing.
You know, regardless of wether he turns out to be a star or a complete bust, Johnny F. does have a certain effect that is hard to describe. I am a Patriots fan and the only reason I joined this board was to pipe in on the Johnny Football thread, and I ended up enjoying this site far more than the Patriots fan forum... probably because most Patriots fans are stubborn rude conceited a-holes who refuse to have a legitimate conversation or difference of opinion without arguing.
Lol. Now that's amusing. Stick around, maybe we'll convert you.
Or at least make the Browns your secondary team. -
Seriously, take a gander at this site if you're interested- http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/forums/patsfans-com-patriots-fan-forum.10/
The amount of bickering, bitching and idiocracy has driven me from it and I used to love posting there. I've been logging on here instead the past two days.
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I know a guy from Texas who is a Dallas Cowboys/NY Yankees fan... I think alot of people like that are simply bandwagon fans who followed the Yankees for years simply because they were consistently a good ball team.
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Hope jff doesnt shit the bed on national exposure. think some people are watching to see something great or a train wreck. i got my beer ready for either one.
Hope jff doesnt shit the bed on national exposure. think some people are watching to see something great or a train wreck. i got my beer ready for either one.
Just out of curiosity... Same beer or two different brands?
Yeah- no comprendo- the AFC Games should be on CBS, & NFC games on FOX. It's long been the rule the visiting teams Conference affiliation picks up the broadcast- at least on Sunday afternoon games.
It's the flexi thing... although I saw a different term for it that I've already forgotten.
This should show that Johnny is more than just another college football player. He is a phenomenon.
I wonder what percentage of viewers will be pulling to see Johnny "NFL Football" vs. Johnny "NFL Failball"?
Go Browns...
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Hope jff doesnt shit the bed on national exposure. think some people are watching to see something great or a train wreck. i got my beer ready for either one.
Just out of curiosity... Same beer or two different brands?
Yeah- no comprendo- the AFC Games should be on CBS, & NFC games on FOX. It's long been the rule the visiting teams Conference affiliation picks up the broadcast- at least on Sunday afternoon games.
It's the flexi thing... although I saw a different term for it that I've already forgotten.
This should show that Johnny is more than just another college football player. He is a phenomenon.
I wonder what percentage of viewers will be pulling to see Johnny "NFL Football" vs. Johnny "NFL Failball"?
Go Browns...
Don't forget the viewers pulling to see johnny's balls...I wonder what percentage of viewers will be pulling to see Johnny "NFL Football" vs. Johnny "NFL Failball"?
Go Browns...
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This should show that Johnny is more than just another college football player. He is a phenomenon.
Of course, like Tebow, he will flame out if he doesn't play well. I think he will.
Here's to 10-15 years of must-see Browns TV.
This should show that Johnny is more than just another college football player. He is a phenomenon.
Of course, like Tebow, he will flame out if he doesn't play well. I think he will.
Here's to 10-15 years of must-see Browns TV.
I think most people are aware that the media can't get enough of Johnny. Regardless of the your stance on the kid, the extra Browns coverage will be a plus. I think we got scheduled for 5 primetime games the year following our Tebow year because of that. Full disclosure, I am also an Aggie, but I am not here to tell you how lucky you are to have him because of how good he was in college. I have seen way too many stars in college bust in the NFL to claim to know how good he might be.
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Don't forget the viewers pulling to see johnny's balls...
Not a subset of the first choice I offered?
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And still... Fuck Ft Wayne
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
@usfbrown said:
do you think before you post and say to yourself... this sounds like a sane, rational, person? I sure hope you're under 20. if not, yikes!
What did I say that's wrong?
What did I say that's wrong?
I was just busting your chops and realized it was a stupid post after I put it up. Hence the deletion. Sorry.
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It does count. You are wrong. Read the fucking facts. It ain't that hard to read or to count.
Gip, ya know I love ya- but just because Bert Bell had a grudge- it is what it is. 65 years and counting- it's not going to change, just like Shoeless Joe Jackson is never going to get reinstated.
I'm curious about which part of the link you are referring to that makes it count. Don't worry, I count them.
I noticed one part which stated this:
In 1948, the Browns became the first professional football team to complete an entire season undefeated and untied — 24 years before the 1972 Miami Dolphins of the NFL would accomplish the task, but this feat is not recognized by NFL record books. Unlike the AFL statistics which are treated as NFL statistics, records of the AAFC and its teams (most of which folded) are not recognized. However, individual AAFC player statistics are included in Pro Football Hall of Fame records, and the defunct conference is memorialized in the Hall.
Seems contradictory to me.
Also, Packers and Bears have more championship wins, but they are NFC teams.
and never will be.
Do the afl titles pre merger count in official standings?
Yes, which sucks.
Gip, ya know I love ya- but just because Bert Bell had a grudge- it is what it is. 65 years and counting- it's not going to change, just like Shoeless Joe Jackson is never going to get reinstated.
and never will be.
Yes, which sucks.
Hoorta.....you are under the misperception that recognition by the NFL matters one whit. It doesn't. Example: Bhutan, Iran, Cuba and North Korea do not recognize the existance of The United States of America.....but the last time I looked, the USA does exist.
Not happy with that analogy.....then just turn it around. Iran, Cuba, N. Korea, Bhutan all exist even if the USA does not recognize them.
Some people deny the holocaust.....but it still happened.
Denying or "not recognizing" history doesn't change or delete history.
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And still... Fuck Ft Wayne
Ft. Wayne? LOL.
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@everlastingxxx said:
A question to those that have seen the build up to the other 20 quarterbacks. Does this feel any different? Is there any clue that you can sense that gives you slightly more hope?
Nope. Feels similar to Quinn. Similar to Anderson in 08. Weeden - not so much.
The only thing that gives me slightly more hope is an improved defense and a better offensive cast than what Weeden had. Anderson was fortunate to have to a good Oline and the one year wonder of Braylon and Winslow.
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I know a guy from Texas who is a Dallas Cowboys/NY Yankees fan... I think alot of people like that are simply bandwagon fans who followed the Yankees for years simply because they were consistently a good ball team.
I know a guy from Texas who is a Dallas Cowboys/NY Yankees fan... I think alot of people like that are simply bandwagon fans who followed the Yankees for years simply because they were consistently a good ball team.
We know a guy from Akron, Ohio who claims to be a Cowboys/Yankees fan. His name is LeBron James.
Years ago I invented a term that you will see here on occasion: FRAK, simply FrontRunnerAssKisser. Guys that jump on the bandwagon of teams that win instead of really being loyal to you home town team.
To paraphrase Marcellus Wallace: Fuck FRAKS.
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@everlastingxxx said:
A question to those that have seen the build up to the other 20 quarterbacks. Does this feel any different? Is there any clue that you can sense that gives you slightly more hope?
For me its hard to tell, I am always optimistic with our new qb, even if I didn't want them to be drafted in the first place (Quinn, weeden, JF). I think we all try to be optimistic but have our doubt's. As far as the way the coaches have handled it I think this is the best handling of the situation we could have had and by far the best since we have been back.
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@everlastingxxx said:
A question to those that have seen the build up to the other 20 quarterbacks. Does this feel any different? Is there any clue that you can sense that gives you slightly more hope?
Build up? There wasn't a build up anything like JFF, but then again, we didn't get a million manzielots with the other QB's either.....
In the past and unlike this year, there wasn;t an acceptable starter in place, so we rushed them in without time for the build up./
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And railing in threads in an obscure Browns forum will not bring recognition...
Call it even... move on...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
What did I say that's wrong?
I was just busting your chops and realized it was a stupid post after I put it up. Hence the deletion. Sorry.
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And railing in threads in an obscure Browns forum will not bring recognition...
Call it even... move on...
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@everlastingxxx said:
A question to those that have seen the build up to the other 20 quarterbacks. Does this feel any different? Is there any clue that you can sense that gives you slightly more hope?
Great questions...
It is different, but probably not in the way for which you were looking... not in my case anyway.
For the most part through the 20 we were looking for a miracle, a savior. The team was so bad that the next QB was virtually doomed to fail before he began. There were a couple respites (a year or two under Butch and one under Mangini), but this was the circumstance most of the time.
With the growth we have seen in the team this year, I am still looking for "first-do-no-harm", QB competence like that which got this team to 6-3. This is not what you expect from rookie QB's in general let alone an exciting, college-hero QB.
In the BUF game, I saw the college-hero QB. While I understand it was in a situation that called for heroism, it did nothing to assure me JM can dial down his game.
So I think what I am "hoping for" differs at least from what you and other... ahem... "shorter-term, Browns fans" are hoping for...
Ask me again at halftime on Sunday...
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