***Official Browns Vs. Bengals Game Day Thread***
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We lose.
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At this point it is not looking good for my Johnny predictions. He has looked like a rookie and is really not ready.
Although to be completely fair it is his first game against a decent defense and the line is letting everyone through. But when the team failed to score points with Hoyer I put most of the blame on him so I have to do the same here.
At this point it is not looking good for my Johnny predictions. He has looked like a rookie and is really not ready.
Although to be completely fair it is his first game against a decent defense and the line is letting everyone through. But when the team failed to score points with Hoyer I put most of the blame on him so I have to do the same here.
Fair enough... just wish it made me feel better.
For the first time in many weeks I am worried that we will fall short of my 8-8 prediction.
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At this point it is not looking good for my Johnny predictions. He has looked like a rookie and is really not ready.
Although to be completely fair it is his first game against a decent defense and the line is letting everyone through. But when the team failed to score points with Hoyer I put most of the blame on him so I have to do the same here.
Fair enough... just wish it made me feel better.
For the first time in many weeks I am worried that we will fall short of my 8-8 prediction.
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Please score
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Line absolutely blows
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Don't know what you got till its gone... Manziel is better than Hoyer? Bullshit.
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Johnny looks awful. I don't love shanny's offense, but Johnny looks bad. Hope it turns around.
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Wow Shanahan really throws the ball poorly and doesn't make the proper read, oh wait

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Johnny looks a lot like Colt McCoy in the pocket so far.. Looks scared. Hopefully next week looks better..
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You can see Johnny's still raw. He really needs another year on the bench. It makes me even more irritated with Hoyer that he started fucking up that bad that we had to bring in Johnny before he was ready. I was so hoping for Hoyer to be our starter "no question" for 3 years and then Johnny wins the job 4th year. But the hype machine wouldn't sit fucking still for that many years would it? Everybody's gotta see the money signs now...the marketing machine wouldn't wait 4 years either. We need to see Johnny and Lebron pairing up in commercials now. No thought to actually building something with a solid base. I really can't stand that aspect of our culture. It's more important to get a kid in some nike commercials than it is to raise him right so he contributes to the fucking team that drafted him.
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Our whole team sucks today. To blame it all on JFF is nuts.
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will there be an explosion of connor shaw threads after today?
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Our whole team sucks today. To blame it all on JFF is nuts.
The line has to pick it up, but they were damn sure going after him the whole game. Recievers have to move to the ballOur whole team sucks today. To blame it all on JFF is nuts.
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You can see Johnny's still raw. He really needs another year on the bench. It makes me even more irritated with Hoyer that he started fucking up that bad that we had to bring in Johnny before he was ready. I was so hoping for Hoyer to be our starter "no question" for 3 years and then Johnny wins the job 4th year. But the hype machine wouldn't sit fucking still for that many years would it? Everybody's gotta see the money signs now...the marketing machine wouldn't wait 4 years either. We need to see Johnny and Lebron pairing up in commercials now. No thought to actually building something with a solid base. I really can't stand that aspect of our culture. It's more important to get a kid in some nike commercials than it is to raise him right so he contributes to the fucking team that drafted him.
You can see Johnny's still raw. He really needs another year on the bench. It makes me even more irritated with Hoyer that he started fucking up that bad that we had to bring in Johnny before he was ready. I was so hoping for Hoyer to be our starter "no question" for 3 years and then Johnny wins the job 4th year. But the hype machine wouldn't sit fucking still for that many years would it? Everybody's gotta see the money signs now...the marketing machine wouldn't wait 4 years either. We need to see Johnny and Lebron pairing up in commercials now. No thought to actually building something with a solid base. I really can't stand that aspect of our culture. It's more important to get a kid in some nike commercials than it is to raise him right so he contributes to the fucking team that drafted him.
Not really a Cleveland issue. If Hoyer was "starting QB" type talent Manziel would have sat a year. In the last 10 years the only guy to sit and wait was Aaron Rodgers behind Favre. That's the reality of the NFL, as soon as you draft a QB in the 1st round he plays
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Welp, 1. this can put to rest the "lose the locker room" part of the Hoyer/Manziel debate. Everyone (Gordon ???) played hard (not well, maybe, but hard, yes) last week. Today...well, I can't tell or say for sure from sitting my ass on the couch, but it's certainly not better than it was with Hoyer in.
2. Pettine's "we'll play the guy who gives us the best chance to win," makes more sense now, no? I was for the switch after last Sunday. I get why it basically has to be the case, but Pettine had a fair, justifiable, for the moment, accurate, rationale.
3. Hoyer needed help in his 10-6 mark. JFF needs help, too. At least the "good Brian" is a little more appreciated after today.
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Well, the Johnny experiment didn't work. Let's hope he does better next week. 7-9 is definitely looking like where we will be.
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Bad play calling, bad QB play, and bad defense. Wash this game from my memory.
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i'm glad it's over. that was very hard to watch. i was pumped up after the defense's performance last week, not sure what happened today. it's like they have some aversion to stopping 2nd string RBs. at least manziel got to play his first entire NFL game today. it can only go up from here.
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38 plays to 71 plays is pretty damn awful.
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