***Official Browns Vs. Bengals Game Day Thread***
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What gets me is that, even as a rookie starting - you almost always see one play, just ONE that makes you go "damn, i can see why they were excited". Or "damn, nice throw".
I didn't see that once today with Johnny.
What gets me is that, even as a rookie starting - you almost always see one play, just ONE that makes you go "damn, i can see why they were excited". Or "damn, nice throw".
I didn't see that once today with Johnny.
I haven't witnessed anything yet that would lead me to the Farmer/Haslam conclusion that he is "our guy". Even at A&M and with his Heisman year there are 3-5 guys each year in college football putting up those numbers, are we looking at Trevone Boykin next year? I mean for shit's sake Ray Farmer gets paid to evaluate talent and his first 2 picks were Justin Gilbert and Manziel...just don't get it.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Oh I saw a couple of great plays. What I liked is he was willing to take some chances with the ball. Wasn't all check downs. He will be better next week. Go Browns!
Like what? The chances I saw downfield were all late or high. One late pick and the other thrown directly at the safety...
What exactly did you see that I did not?
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What gets me is that, even as a rookie starting - you almost always see one play, just ONE that makes you go "damn, i can see why they were excited". Or "damn, nice throw".
I didn't see that once today with Johnny.
I haven't witnessed anything yet that would lead me to the Farmer/Haslam conclusion that he is "our guy". Even at A&M and with his Heisman year there are 3-5 guys each year in college football putting up those numbers, are we looking at Trevone Boykin next year? I mean for shit's sake Ray Farmer gets paid to evaluate talent and his first 2 picks were Justin Gilbert and Manziel...just don't get it.
I haven't witnessed anything yet that would lead me to the Farmer/Haslam conclusion that he is "our guy". Even at A&M and with his Heisman year there are 3-5 guys each year in college football putting up those numbers, are we looking at Trevone Boykin next year? I mean for shit's sake Ray Farmer gets paid to evaluate talent and his first 2 picks were Justin Gilbert and Manziel...just don't get it.
Gilbert is a rook playing arguably the hardest position in the NFL. He's also been slowly improving over the course of the season. No reason to include his name here.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Oh I saw a couple of great plays. What I liked is he was willing to take some chances with the ball. Wasn't all check downs. He will be better next week. Go Browns!
Like what? The chances I saw downfield were all late or high. One late pick and the other thrown directly at the safety...
What exactly did you see that I did not?
Like what? The chances I saw downfield were all late or high. One late pick and the other thrown directly at the safety...
What exactly did you see that I did not?
I saw brian hoyer throw numerous picks in the last few games. Are we seriously calling for this guy's head already? Seriously? If we are we're the worst fans in the world. Go Browns.
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I haven't witnessed anything yet that would lead me to the Farmer/Haslam conclusion that he is "our guy". Even at A&M and with his Heisman year there are 3-5 guys each year in college football putting up those numbers, are we looking at Trevone Boykin next year? I mean for shit's sake Ray Farmer gets paid to evaluate talent and his first 2 picks were Justin Gilbert and Manziel...just don't get it.
Gilbert is a rook playing arguably the hardest position in the NFL. He's also been slowly improving over the course of the season. No reason to include his name here.
Gilbert is a rook playing arguably the hardest position in the NFL. He's also been slowly improving over the course of the season. No reason to include his name here.
He's the 8th pick in the draft who plays special teams, until he contributes he's on my list. I think Fuller is playing for the Bears
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What gets me is that, even as a rookie starting - you almost always see one play, just ONE that makes you go "damn, i can see why they were excited". Or "damn, nice throw".
I didn't see that once today with Johnny.
What gets me is that, even as a rookie starting - you almost always see one play, just ONE that makes you go "damn, i can see why they were excited". Or "damn, nice throw".
I didn't see that once today with Johnny.
I agree.. The only thing that was remotely decent was the pass that Hawkins dropped because if he didn't have his ability to scramble it's a sack and he made a good choice and threw a good pass.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Nice throws on the move. One was dropped the other caught by Gordon. I thought he did a good job with managing the offense, nice tempo.
Then you're drunk
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@everlastingxxx said:
I thought he did a good job with managing the offense, nice tempo.
Yeah...was fucking awesome managing the offense to zero fucking points and more punts than first downs. Give me a fucking break. He played like shit and didn't do a good job of anything.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Brown fans are so pissed at Manziel but no outrage over 244 rushing yards against the defense. They get a free pass. I think the shit play by the entire team is getting a free pass.
cmon man....this weeks story is Johnny.....stop trying to deflect
We've all been waiting a looooooooong time to discuss his play....its time
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@everlastingxxx said:
Brown fans are so pissed at Manziel but no outrage over 244 rushing yards against the defense. They get a free pass. I think the shit play by the entire team is getting a free pass.
No the issue is Johnny fanboy faggots who have been telling us all year how much better the team would be with their boyfriend playing QB. Y'all got your wish and he shit all over himself and now there's actually some trying to make excuses for him or even trying to say that he didn't suck shitballs today.
The defense did him no favors at all today, however...he didn't show one ounce of NFL ability in that game today. Absolutely ZERO NFL ability.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Brown fans are so pissed at Manziel but no outrage over 244 rushing yards against the defense. They get a free pass. I think the shit play by the entire team is getting a free pass.
Oh, I'm plenty pissed about the non-existent defense today. But I'm also pissed about the 117 yards of offense as well. The manzealots tried to make everyone believe that he could put up 40+ points a game without breaking a sweat. I'll give you credit for making an appearance today, which is more than I can say for some of the other nut swinging JF fanbois.
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@everlastingxxx said:
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. I believe he will be a great quarterback but I didn't say it would happen instantly. Only complete idiots would believe that. The entire team (including manziel) played horribly.
You can believe that all you want but he showed nothing today to back that statement up.
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@everlastingxxx said:
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. I believe he will be a great quarterback but I didn't say it would happen instantly. Only complete idiots would believe that. The entire team (including manziel) played horribly.
You can believe that all you want but he showed nothing today to back that statement up.
You can believe that all you want but he showed nothing today to back that statement up.
What get's me is he is never showed anyone outside the state of Texas that he could be a GREAT NFL QB.
I watched Jason White dominate college football and win the Heisman but I wasn't one bit surprised it wasn't going to translate to the NFL.
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I'm out of town right now so I had to stream the game to my Verizon phone with the NFL Mobile app. (It says it's streaming Fox)
Dear god it was commercials commercials commercials...
Everything I saw was terrible, like gut wrenching about to vomit no better then the last 20 years bad.
Anyways, Cindy marched down the field and scored yet again, I believe it was around the 20 point mark, and when they went to commercial Elijah Wood was standing next to Joe Thomas with this look of horror on his face.
Then it hit me. It was Johnny Manziel. Dear god you could easily mistake those 2 for each other in public.
I vote we change the nickname from Johnny Football to Johnny Frodo.
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@everlastingxxx said:
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. I believe he will be a great quarterback but I didn't say it would happen instantly. Only complete idiots would believe that. The entire team (including manziel) played horribly.
You can believe that all you want but he showed nothing today to back that statement up.
You can believe that all you want but he showed nothing today to back that statement up.
As bad as the mechanics and reads were today, its pretty clear why the coaches were so reluctant to play him.
He looked lost and made a lot of bad reads. So, he's not NFL ready and has a lot to learn.....playing is the only way....
Ill be looking for noticeable adjustments on his part next week.....to see if he's taking the coaching.....cause today it didn't look like it
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You can believe that all you want but he showed nothing today to back that statement up.
As bad as the mechanics and reads were today, its pretty clear why the coaches were so reluctant to play him.
He looked lost and made a lot of bad reads. So, he's not NFL ready and has a lot to learn.....playing is the only way....
Ill be looking for noticeable adjustments on his part next week.....to see if he's taking the coaching.....cause today it didn't look like it
As bad as the mechanics and reads were today, its pretty clear why the coaches were so reluctant to play him.
He looked lost and made a lot of bad reads. So, he's not NFL ready and has a lot to learn.....playing is the only way....
Ill be looking for noticeable adjustments on his part next week.....to see if he's taking the coaching.....cause today it didn't look like it
Yep...There's a positive for all the fanboy fags. He really can't look any worse next week against Carolina than he did today so as long as he improves on that shit show today, it will be a step in the right direction. But he better show something next week or its not going to give us a lot of hope for the future.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Brown fans are so pissed at Manziel but no outrage over 244 rushing yards against the defense. They get a free pass. I think the shit play by the entire team is getting a free pass.
Not at all, but Hoyer never got a free pass. Again the issues with the offense were magnified with Johnny under center, not improved.
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Now that I've come down from all this, here's the best thing we can all hope for. Maybe this will be a HUGE wake up call for Manziel and Shanahan. For Manziel, it's realizing fast he's going to be a pocket passer FIRST and a runner SECOND. This goes hand in hand of course with Shanahan realizing the read-option bullshit doesn't work as the staple of the offense. Manziel deserves and has to play in a similar scheme to what Hoyer was in. He may fall flat on his ass but there's no way we will win with the scheme trotted out today.
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