so where do we begin....?
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this lose made us the joke of the week. i blame the coaching staff.... they knew this was coming. manziel is not an nfl qb. our o line is horrible without Mack, receivers can't catch, d is missing ?,
so who still thinks hoyer can't win games for us? makes you wonder if was a better option. i am by no means a hoyer fan boy. we need a legit pro qb
this lose made us the joke of the week. i blame the coaching staff.... they knew this was coming. manziel is not an nfl qb. our o line is horrible without Mack, receivers can't catch, d is missing ?,
so who still thinks hoyer can't win games for us? makes you wonder if was a better option. i am by no means a hoyer fan boy. we need a legit pro qb
Can't blame the coaches for this one. When Farmer/Haslam drafted Manziel he was starting year 2 or as a rookie if Hoyer struggled.
You strengthen the O-Line and D-Line and bring in a good LB for next season.
If I had control Manziel would get 4 games to show me something, if not I'd wish him luck elsewhere. I'd sign Hoyer on the cheap or look for a FA game manager. I would try to win the battle for the line of scrimmage.
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who is going to be out there next year in FA worth it
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this lose made us the joke of the week. i blame the coaching staff.... they knew this was coming. manziel is not an nfl qb. our o line is horrible without Mack, receivers can't catch, d is missing ?,
so who still thinks hoyer can't win games for us? makes you wonder if was a better option. i am by no means a hoyer fan boy. we need a legit pro qb
Can't blame the coaches for this one. When Farmer/Haslam drafted Manziel he was starting year 2 or as a rookie if Hoyer struggled.
You strengthen the O-Line and D-Line and bring in a good LB for next season.
If I had control Manziel would get 4 games to show me something, if not I'd wish him luck elsewhere. I'd sign Hoyer on the cheap or look for a FA game manager. I would try to win the battle for the line of scrimmage.
Can't blame the coaches for this one.
Yes you can. You can blame everyone. The amount of apathy and lack of passion from the players today rest on the coaches.
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Here's the thing hoyer was never given a chance. Between espn all the talking head Haslem and the Johnny fan boys he was set up to fall. All he did was win and make the team relevant. And yes he has struggled but what happened today was sad. And because hoyer is not a big flashy personality he was ran out of the position. If today proves anything hoyer was carrying the team. Best thing for them now get rid of the distraction ( Johnny) and put pieces around hoyer and wait for the next great one, but for now hoyer can get us places and might make a lot of noise.
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Can't blame the coaches for this one.
Yes you can. You can blame everyone. The amount of apathy and lack of passion from the players today rest on the coaches.
Yes you can. You can blame everyone. The amount of apathy and lack of passion from the players today rest on the coaches.
I wasn't speaking to the game as a whole just to the decision to play Manziel.
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this lose made us the joke of the week. i blame the coaching staff.... they knew this was coming. manziel is not an nfl qb. our o line is horrible without Mack, receivers can't catch, d is missing ?,
so who still thinks hoyer can't win games for us? makes you wonder if was a better option. i am by no means a hoyer fan boy. we need a legit pro qb
this lose made us the joke of the week. i blame the coaching staff.... they knew this was coming. manziel is not an nfl qb. our o line is horrible without Mack, receivers can't catch, d is missing ?,
so who still thinks hoyer can't win games for us? makes you wonder if was a better option. i am by no means a hoyer fan boy. we need a legit pro qb
if the browns agree with you....i sure hope they trade him....fast....but give him another 4 or 8 days days with the one's....and joe montana would have struggled with that o-line play.......and don't even talk about the defense they couldn't get the bengals off the field if their lives depended on it.........
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Here's the thing hoyer was never given a chance. Between espn all the talking head Haslem and the Johnny fan boys he was set up to fall. All he did was win and make the team relevant. And yes he has struggled but what happened today was sad. And because hoyer is not a big flashy personality he was ran out of the position. If today proves anything hoyer was carrying the team. Best thing for them now get rid of the distraction ( Johnny) and put pieces around hoyer and wait for the next great one, but for now hoyer can get us places and might make a lot of noise.
Here's the thing hoyer was never given a chance. Between espn all the talking head Haslem and the Johnny fan boys he was set up to fall. All he did was win and make the team relevant. And yes he has struggled but what happened today was sad. And because hoyer is not a big flashy personality he was ran out of the position. If today proves anything hoyer was carrying the team. Best thing for them now get rid of the distraction ( Johnny) and put pieces around hoyer and wait for the next great one, but for now hoyer can get us places and might make a lot of noise.
1. Just because Johnny Manziel sucked balls today doesn't mean Hoyer didn't have a chance. Hoyer blew it.
2. No he didn't. He cost us the Buffalo and Indy game.
3. No he won't, he's gone in the offseason.
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Man... I am going to have to at least partially agree with Walter... way too close for comfort.
Shanny's calls in our first series were awful. Run right, run left, QB draw was not even close to imaginative enough. And it did not get much better than that until maybe the flag-a-thon series late in the 2nd QTR.
EDIT: Not so close after all as a lot of moronic shit appeared in quick order...
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Here's the thing hoyer was never given a chance. Between espn all the talking head Haslem and the Johnny fan boys he was set up to fall. All he did was win and make the team relevant. And yes he has struggled but what happened today was sad. And because hoyer is not a big flashy personality he was ran out of the position. If today proves anything hoyer was carrying the team. Best thing for them now get rid of the distraction ( Johnny) and put pieces around hoyer and wait for the next great one, but for now hoyer can get us places and might make a lot of noise.
Here's the thing hoyer was never given a chance. Between espn all the talking head Haslem and the Johnny fan boys he was set up to fall. All he did was win and make the team relevant. And yes he has struggled but what happened today was sad. And because hoyer is not a big flashy personality he was ran out of the position. If today proves anything hoyer was carrying the team. Best thing for them now get rid of the distraction ( Johnny) and put pieces around hoyer and wait for the next great one, but for now hoyer can get us places and might make a lot of noise.
definitely...hoyer's the answer...trade manziel, please trade manziel......then i wouldn't have to listen to this stupidity any longer.....
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Here's the thing hoyer was never given a chance. Between espn all the talking head Haslem and the Johnny fan boys he was set up to fall. All he did was win and make the team relevant. And yes he has struggled but what happened today was sad. And because hoyer is not a big flashy personality he was ran out of the position. If today proves anything hoyer was carrying the team. Best thing for them now get rid of the distraction ( Johnny) and put pieces around hoyer and wait for the next great one, but for now hoyer can get us places and might make a lot of noise.
1. Just because Johnny Manziel sucked balls today doesn't mean Hoyer didn't have a chance. Hoyer blew it.
2. No he didn't. He cost us the Buffalo and Indy game.
3. No he won't, he's gone in the offseason.
1. Just because Johnny Manziel sucked balls today doesn't mean Hoyer didn't have a chance. Hoyer blew it.
2. No he didn't. He cost us the Buffalo and Indy game.
3. No he won't, he's gone in the offseason.
I agree with numbers 1 and 2. I'd add that Hoyer's very below average play cost us the Jacksonville game as well. Not so sure about #3 though. 2 more shit shows that that one today out of Manzidiot and the Browns might be forced to keep Hoyer around.
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this lose made us the joke of the week. i blame the coaching staff.... they knew this was coming. manziel is not an nfl qb. our o line is horrible without Mack, receivers can't catch, d is missing ?,
so who still thinks hoyer can't win games for us? makes you wonder if was a better option. i am by no means a hoyer fan boy. we need a legit pro qb
if the browns agree with you....i sure hope they trade him....fast....but give him another 4 or 8 days days with the one's....and joe montana would have struggled with that o-line play.......and don't even talk about the defense they couldn't get the bengals off the field if their lives depended on it.........
if the browns agree with you....i sure hope they trade him....fast....but give him another 4 or 8 days days with the one's....and joe montana would have struggled with that o-line play.......and don't even talk about the defense they couldn't get the bengals off the field if their lives depended on it.........
No they couldn't, but our offense couldn't keep our defense off the field either.
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Ill be honest I like hoyer I hate Johnny and everything he stands for this give me gratification for nothing generation. hoyer might take use places given a real chance and maybe not but this I know manziel is nothing but a bust at best, but hoyer can bridge the gap. And remember hoyer faced a better team last week and played better by far with the same team. But this weak also proved that our receivers are not getting the job done.
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My bet is that Hoyer does not get a big deal at the end of this season by anyone.He will sign for backup money because that is what he is. Not sticking up for Johnny,but if Hoyer would have played the outcome would have been the same.Just like the last 4 weeks that he sucked. What happened to the Johnny that drove us in for a touchdown a couple of weeks ago.Cincy showed up to win today,i don't think a qb could have made a difference.Did anyone notice our defense getting mauled? Maybe we should dress Hoyer up as linebacker and he can save us on the other side.
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manziel is rg3 type. do not compare him to russel Wilson.that kid can stayin the pocket and throw like a vet. Wilson is far above manziel.
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If you was to see how bad the media hated hoyer listen to the talking heads say the wr's and the line had everything to do with it.
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manziel is rg3 type. do not compare him to russel Wilson.that kid can stayin the pocket and throw like a vet. Wilson is far above manziel.
manziel is rg3 type. do not compare him to russel Wilson.that kid can stayin the pocket and throw like a vet. Wilson is far above manziel.
Not even fair to compare him to RGIII. He was setting the league on fire when he was a rookie, even in his first start when he led the Redskins to a blowout of the Saints in the Superdome if I'm not mistaken.
The only thing Manzidiot did well today was not getting stuck under the flag before the game and he didn't shit his pants.
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Here's the thing hoyer was never given a chance. Between espn all the talking head Haslem and the Johnny fan boys he was set up to fall. All he did was win and make the team relevant. And yes he has struggled but what happened today was sad. And because hoyer is not a big flashy personality he was ran out of the position. If today proves anything hoyer was carrying the team. Best thing for them now get rid of the distraction ( Johnny) and put pieces around hoyer and wait for the next great one, but for now hoyer can get us places and might make a lot of noise.
1. Just because Johnny Manziel sucked balls today doesn't mean Hoyer didn't have a chance. Hoyer blew it.
2. No he didn't. He cost us the Buffalo and Indy game.
3. No he won't, he's gone in the offseason.
I can agree Hoyer blew it the last few weeks. Given that terminology though if Hoyer blew it Manziel served up a suckfest orgy. He sucked so much he is on protein overload. I can't really isolate one thing he did badly because he did nothing. If he had one tenth of the talent you think he had he surely could have done something. I hope next week or even year you can throw this post in my face I really do. Right now though I see a guy who can't possibly compete. He couldn't even scramble and show us that great mobility. He sucked.1. Just because Johnny Manziel sucked balls today doesn't mean Hoyer didn't have a chance. Hoyer blew it.
2. No he didn't. He cost us the Buffalo and Indy game.
3. No he won't, he's gone in the offseason.
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1. Just because Johnny Manziel sucked balls today doesn't mean Hoyer didn't have a chance. Hoyer blew it.
2. No he didn't. He cost us the Buffalo and Indy game.
3. No he won't, he's gone in the offseason.
I agree with numbers 1 and 2. I'd add that Hoyer's very below average play cost us the Jacksonville game as well. Not so sure about #3 though. 2 more shit shows that that one today out of Manzidiot and the Browns might be forced to keep Hoyer around.
Not so sure about #3 though. 2 more shit shows that that one today out of Manzidiot and the Browns might be forced to keep Hoyer around.
Yup... BH could well have gotten a raise today.
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Yup... BH could well have gotten a raise today.
This was my thinking. Even if Manziel gets the next two starts and sucks, you have one rookie QB on the cheap and Hoyer who will be had for a lot less now that he's benched.
Those writing off BH being involved in the Browns future might be terribly mistaken.
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