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  • Z Zombo

    Our Qb was a ridiculous gimmicky fuckwad.

    Funny how Manning and Brady dont ever lose games in the trenches. This team needs a fucking qb. They were 7-6 with a decent one who played horribley for four weeks.

    Z

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    thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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    Zombo said:

    Our Qb was a ridiculous gimmicky fuckwad.

    Funny how Manning and Brady dont ever lose games in the trenches. This team needs a fucking qb. They were 7-6 with a decent one who played horribley for four weeks.

    Z

    Kinda harsh considering it was his first start...

    I'm not a Manziel apologist because I never wanted him on this team in the first place, but I still think he can turn out okay... just based on his talent...

    #Justsayin'
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      Zombo said:

      Our Qb was a ridiculous gimmicky fuckwad.

      Funny how Manning and Brady dont ever lose games in the trenches. This team needs a fucking qb. They were 7-6 with a decent one who played horribley for four weeks.

      Z

      Kinda harsh considering it was his first start...

      I'm not a Manziel apologist because I never wanted him on this team in the first place, but I still think he can turn out okay... just based on his talent...

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      @thenew23 said:

      Kinda harsh considering it was his first start...

      I'm not a Manziel apologist because I never wanted him on this team in the first place, but I still think he can turn out okay... just based on his talent...

      I ask people what talent is that they refer to. The common response is his running ability. The absolute last thing important to a successful NFL QB.

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        @thenew23 said:

        Kinda harsh considering it was his first start...

        I'm not a Manziel apologist because I never wanted him on this team in the first place, but I still think he can turn out okay... just based on his talent...

        I ask people what talent is that they refer to. The common response is his running ability. The absolute last thing important to a successful NFL QB.

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        @tiamat63 said:

        I ask people what talent is that they refer to. The common response is his running ability. The absolute last thing important to a successful NFL QB.

        Just the other day we were talking about how he'd scramble too soon then just throw ill advised passes up for grabs.....which was met with the insistence that that just doesn't happen.....in fact, only 4 or 5 times in college(presumably)......though I saw it almost 5 times today.....

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          @tiamat63 said:

          I ask people what talent is that they refer to. The common response is his running ability. The absolute last thing important to a successful NFL QB.

          Just the other day we were talking about how he'd scramble too soon then just throw ill advised passes up for grabs.....which was met with the insistence that that just doesn't happen.....in fact, only 4 or 5 times in college(presumably)......though I saw it almost 5 times today.....

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          @mudfly said:

          Just the other day we were talking about how he'd scramble too soon then just throw ill advised passes up for grabs.....which was met with the insistence that that just doesn't happen.....in fact, only 4 or 5 times in college(presumably)......though I saw it almost 5 times today.....

          Mike Evans bailed out many a ill-advised throws. Very similar to Samarjdza and Stovalt bailing out Quinn at Notre Dame.

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            Zombo said:

            Our Qb was a ridiculous gimmicky fuckwad.

            Funny how Manning and Brady dont ever lose games in the trenches. This team needs a fucking qb. They were 7-6 with a decent one who played horribley for four weeks.

            Z

            Kinda harsh considering it was his first start...

            I'm not a Manziel apologist because I never wanted him on this team in the first place, but I still think he can turn out okay... just based on his talent...

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            @thenew23 said:

            Kinda harsh considering it was his first start...

            I'm not a Manziel apologist because I never wanted him on this team in the first place, but I still think he can turn out okay... just based on his talent...

            I saw zero NFL level talent out of him today. That forced circus throw into the end zone for an INT is exactly what I expected. He better quickly realize that circus monkey act won't work here. He also showed very little ability to utilize his mobility. If I were Haslam I would be very concerned with the prodigy I forced Pettine to draft.
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              @thenew23 said:

              Kinda harsh considering it was his first start...

              I'm not a Manziel apologist because I never wanted him on this team in the first place, but I still think he can turn out okay... just based on his talent...

              I ask people what talent is that they refer to. The common response is his running ability. The absolute last thing important to a successful NFL QB.

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              @tiamat63 said:

              I ask people what talent is that they refer to. The common response is his running ability. The absolute last thing important to a successful NFL QB.

              Mobility, Extending plays, Keeping eyes down-field when he's outside the pocket, Arm strength, Throwing on the run

              These are all great qualities for him. Obviously, he just didn't show much of them today...

              I think he'll get better... Is he our next franchise QB? I doubt it...

              #Justsayin'
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                T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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                There were no trenchmen today. Massive desertion both sides of the ball. But lets just blame it on the rookie QB that before the game most knowledgeable fans here thought would need a lot of defensive and offensive help to win his first game. He got 0 from either today. I think some of you have a short memory. Tell me exactly what happened to Manning in the Superbowl last year when he had massive desertion in the trenches both sides of the ball.

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                  There were no trenchmen today. Massive desertion both sides of the ball. But lets just blame it on the rookie QB that before the game most knowledgeable fans here thought would need a lot of defensive and offensive help to win his first game. He got 0 from either today. I think some of you have a short memory. Tell me exactly what happened to Manning in the Superbowl last year when he had massive desertion in the trenches both sides of the ball.

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                  @texasag1969 said:

                  There were no trenchmen today. Massive desertion both sides of the ball. But lets just blame it on the rookie QB that before the game most knowledgeable fans here thought would need a lot of defensive and offensive help to win his first game. He got 0 from either today.

                  I expected this to be a common excuse. "They didn't play for Johhny boy!!!!, Waahhhhhhh"

                  This is the same fucking line Hoyer played with most of the season folks.

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                    @texasag1969 said:

                    There were no trenchmen today. Massive desertion both sides of the ball. But lets just blame it on the rookie QB that before the game most knowledgeable fans here thought would need a lot of defensive and offensive help to win his first game. He got 0 from either today.

                    I expected this to be a common excuse. "They didn't play for Johhny boy!!!!, Waahhhhhhh"

                    This is the same fucking line Hoyer played with most of the season folks.

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                    @tiamat63 said:

                    I expected this to be a common excuse. "They didn't play for Johhny boy!!!!, Waahhhhhhh"

                    This is the same fucking line Hoyer played with most of the season folks.

                    I call bs. Last week was one of the most dominating defensive efforts from any team in the NFL all season. Where was that team?

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                      @tiamat63 said:

                      I ask people what talent is that they refer to. The common response is his running ability. The absolute last thing important to a successful NFL QB.

                      Mobility, Extending plays, Keeping eyes down-field when he's outside the pocket, Arm strength, Throwing on the run

                      These are all great qualities for him. Obviously, he just didn't show much of them today...

                      I think he'll get better... Is he our next franchise QB? I doubt it...

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                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                      @thenew23 said:

                      Mobility, Extending plays, Keeping eyes down-field when he's outside the pocket, Arm strength, Throwing on the run

                      These are all great qualities for him. Obviously, he just didn't show much of them today...

                      I think he'll get better... Is he our next franchise QB? I doubt it...

                      1st and 2nd mean little to an NFL QB. Keeping eyes downfield is nice. Arm Strength? Slightly above average. Throwing on the run he was never the most accurate, he was just able to make some awkward throws and receivers would fight for their QB.

                      What he lacks? Accuracy, anticipation, poise, internal clock, decisive and quick decisions.

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                        Zombo said:

                        Our Qb was a ridiculous gimmicky fuckwad.

                        Funny how Manning and Brady dont ever lose games in the trenches. This team needs a fucking qb. They were 7-6 with a decent one who played horribley for four weeks.

                        Z

                        Kinda harsh considering it was his first start...

                        I'm not a Manziel apologist because I never wanted him on this team in the first place, but I still think he can turn out okay... just based on his talent...

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                        Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                        @thenew23 said:

                        Kinda harsh considering it was his first start...

                        I'm not a Manziel apologist because I never wanted him on this team in the first place, but I still think he can turn out okay... just based on his talent...

                        He's a midget with gimmicks. Please.

                        Zombo

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                          @texasag1969 said:

                          There were no trenchmen today. Massive desertion both sides of the ball. But lets just blame it on the rookie QB that before the game most knowledgeable fans here thought would need a lot of defensive and offensive help to win his first game. He got 0 from either today.

                          I expected this to be a common excuse. "They didn't play for Johhny boy!!!!, Waahhhhhhh"

                          This is the same fucking line Hoyer played with most of the season folks.

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                          @tiamat63 said:

                          I expected this to be a common excuse. "They didn't play for Johhny boy!!!!, Waahhhhhhh"

                          I thought his teammates loved ...would run through walls for him ......So, if the "team" laid down on him....why?

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                            @thenew23 said:

                            Kinda harsh considering it was his first start...

                            I'm not a Manziel apologist because I never wanted him on this team in the first place, but I still think he can turn out okay... just based on his talent...

                            He's a midget with gimmicks. Please.

                            Zombo

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                            Zombo said:

                            He's a midget with gimmicks. Please.

                            Zombo

                            a midgmick???

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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              I expected this to be a common excuse. "They didn't play for Johhny boy!!!!, Waahhhhhhh"

                              This is the same fucking line Hoyer played with most of the season folks.

                              I call bs. Last week was one of the most dominating defensive efforts from any team in the NFL all season. Where was that team?

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                              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                              @texasag1969 said:

                              I call bs. Last week was one of the most dominating defensive efforts from any team in the NFL all season. Where was that team?

                              Probably would have been more effective if not on the field for 3/4 of the 1st half. Yeah, they gave up an opening drive aided by some questionable calls. It was a long drive, the offense came out and went 3 plays.

                              Next drive, held to a field goal while facing shaky field position, that's a solid stop. What did our offense do? Another three and out. Early 2nd we go down 17-0. Not quite panic mode, lets be smart about our game and get some points on the board, still a long ways to go. Offense responds? Manziel with a terribly late throw that sets Cincy up with awesome field position. Its all good, Robertson to the rescue. Big interception, good field position, crowd back in it and plenty of time to narrow the gap. Take what the defense gives you. It's fine, Johnny will literally throw at Pacman. Like, your receivers are not big and that is beyond an ill-advise throw.

                              After that second pick the offense looked out of it. It wasn't so much the interceptions, but how they came about. NO team likes it when your QB is so careless with the ball.

                              edit: IF the defense didn't help, where was Johnny from the Duke game? The fiery one that screamed and got his teammates pumped up? The one that Aggie fans say deliver in the clutch.

                              Goose egg on the board. Zero points, including garbage time, against a defense that wanted it.

                              One more thing that stands out to me. Anybody remember that Duke game in the bowl season? I never understood why on Manziel highlight videos you see a play included where he jumps head down into a pill of lineman, somehow is lucky enough the defense is shocked into going full Retard, then throws a TD to an outlet receiver.

                              That should be illustrated as one of the plays you NEVER do and NEVER get away with unless you've sold your soul to satan. Go figure, those "highlights" would entice Haslam to draft him.

                              edit: Want to know where that team is? Check the injury report. This defense has had a good run with backups and 3rd stringers, they were bound to come back to Earth soon. Can't leave a defense like this on the field that long. It's a pretty simple formula.

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