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  • slimdawg slimdawgS
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    slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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    Ok, first off, I was happy when Cleveland drafted Manziel even knowing we had Hoyer coming back from injury and he was still an unknown. I really liked jf's big play potential and excitability. In watching Hoyer last year for the few games before he got injured, I was really excited and intrigued. From what I saw, he just had that IT factor, intangibles that you want to see in your QB. He was a gamer, I could see it plain as day. I was really hopeful in what he could do this year as the starter.

    We all know how this years gone already, ups downs and then really down. Alot of people have written Hoyer off already and labeled him a backup, and maybe he is just that. I still think he's that gamer QB though. If you look at Brians bad games and bad throws, to me it all leads back to bad mechanics and bad habits, and that shit is all coachable.(Plus toward the end I think he was feelin the heat and pressing too much) The intangible shit and gamer mentality is not and he's got it. We've all seen it and if you havent than id suggest watching his 2 starts last year, or the 2nd half of week 1 game against Shitsburgh or the Baltiwhore game, or the Shitsburgh annihilation, Atlanta game, or just the Tennessee game which resulted in the LARGEST COME FROM BEHIND VICTORY IN CLEVELAND BROWNS HISTORY!! Oh shit, and it was also THE LARGEST COME FROM BEHIND VICTORY IN THE NFL EVER!!! EVER!!!

    Look, im not sayin that Brian can be the best QB of all time or anything like that, but do i see a QB that has some deficiencies that need work and if corrected and improved can be a solid above average QB for this franchise for the next decade? Make a few playoffs?(if andy dalton can, i have to beleive BH can) Possibly go to/win a SB??

    Fuck yeah I do! Am i the only one who thinks this is a real possibility??

    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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      J J0hnnybg00d wrote on last edited by J0hnnybg00d
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      Hoyer is the better QB at this point but its too late to go back. Manziel is the guy now as sad as that is.

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        J J0hnnybg00d wrote on last edited by
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        Just gotta hope he gets better.

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          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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          Hoyer has to understand that it was "HIS" shitty play that forced us to see where Manziel was at. If he still wants to leave, then fuck him. If he wants to stay I'd still sign him and pay him decent...not what he wanted before the season obviously but pay the man. He has to know though that we've got a guy on the bench that we want to be our QB in 10 years. So the team is Hoyers for at least a year or two but he has to know it's a competition every year. If he can't deal with competition than go somewhere else. I too would rather see Hoyer start next year but if he shits the bed again for multiple games than maybe he needs to sit for a game or two. That's perfectly reasonable.

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            T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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            Guys, hoyer was always just a temporary stopgap until JF took the field. Nothing more.

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              Guys, hoyer was always just a temporary stopgap until JF took the field. Nothing more.

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              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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              @tacosman said:

              Guys, hoyer was always just a temporary stopgap until JF took the field. Nothing more.

              Yeah well he's gonna have to be a stopgap for awhile more. Like another 2 years.

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                Hoyer has to understand that it was "HIS" shitty play that forced us to see where Manziel was at. If he still wants to leave, then fuck him. If he wants to stay I'd still sign him and pay him decent...not what he wanted before the season obviously but pay the man. He has to know though that we've got a guy on the bench that we want to be our QB in 10 years. So the team is Hoyers for at least a year or two but he has to know it's a competition every year. If he can't deal with competition than go somewhere else. I too would rather see Hoyer start next year but if he shits the bed again for multiple games than maybe he needs to sit for a game or two. That's perfectly reasonable.

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                H Herewegobrownies19 wrote on last edited by
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                @clevfan4life said:

                Hoyer has to understand that it was "HIS" shitty play that forced us to see where Manziel was at. If he still wants to leave, then fuck him. If he wants to stay I'd still sign him and pay him decent...not what he wanted before the season obviously but pay the man. He has to know though that we've got a guy on the bench that we want to be our QB in 10 years. So the team is Hoyers for at least a year or two but he has to know it's a competition every year. If he can't deal with competition than go somewhere else. I too would rather see Hoyer start next year but if he shits the bed again for multiple games than maybe he needs to sit for a game or two. That's perfectly reasonable.

                Hoyers gone and will probably land a starting gig (or compete for one) next year. He has experienced the JF circus and I'm sure he wants no part in having to deal with this moving forward. This is Manziels team now and today was not very promising but it's only 1 game

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                  @tacosman said:

                  Guys, hoyer was always just a temporary stopgap until JF took the field. Nothing more.

                  Yeah well he's gonna have to be a stopgap for awhile more. Like another 2 years.

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                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  Yeah well he's gonna have to be a stopgap for awhile more. Like another 2 years.

                  Depending on the last 2 games I could see them resigning Hoyer and going into camp without a set starter...again.

                  I hope Johnny kicks it up, but what I saw today was a guy not ready for the NFL yet.

                  Regardless, we're going to get 2 more games to evaluate johnny.

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                    LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                    lol. manziel team.

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                      LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                      wish Somebody talked out haslem out of the manziel pick like the guy who talked Jerry Jones out of selecting manziel. Jones right now seems like a genius.

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                        @tacosman said:

                        Guys, hoyer was always just a temporary stopgap until JF took the field. Nothing more.

                        Yeah well he's gonna have to be a stopgap for awhile more. Like another 2 years.

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                        T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        Yeah well he's gonna have to be a stopgap for awhile more. Like another 2 years.

                        No way the browns do that....too expensive.

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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          Yeah well he's gonna have to be a stopgap for awhile more. Like another 2 years.

                          Depending on the last 2 games I could see them resigning Hoyer and going into camp without a set starter...again.

                          I hope Johnny kicks it up, but what I saw today was a guy not ready for the NFL yet.

                          Regardless, we're going to get 2 more games to evaluate johnny.

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                          T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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                          @bbedward said:

                          Depending on the last 2 games I could see them resigning Hoyer and going into camp without a set starter...again.

                          I hope Johnny kicks it up, but what I saw today was a guy not ready for the NFL yet.

                          Regardless, we're going to get 2 more games to evaluate johnny.

                          This team has other needs, and an 8 million dollar backup qb is not compatible with filling those.

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                            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                              @bbedward said:

                              Depending on the last 2 games I could see them resigning Hoyer and going into camp without a set starter...again.

                              I hope Johnny kicks it up, but what I saw today was a guy not ready for the NFL yet.

                              Regardless, we're going to get 2 more games to evaluate johnny.

                              This team has other needs, and an 8 million dollar backup qb is not compatible with filling those.

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                              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by Browns149
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                              @tacosman said:

                              This team has other needs, and an 8 million dollar backup qb is not compatible with filling those.

                              we need a $20 million dollar QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                              they haven't had in the history of this team

                              well except Otto and he was a $5000 guy back in the day

                              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                Damn Slim, l feel like you're pulling a Jerry McGuire on me. But l'm with you! Hoyer nation!

                                But the fine print here. I don't know shit about shit, all l know is what l think l know until l'm told otherwise. I saw an entire team play their guts out last week, and l saw that same team going through the motions today.

                                Am l wrong? Please somebody set me straight.

                                And Taco, l've had about enough of you. All l want is a goddamn taco from you. Put out or get out bitch.

                                Waitaminnute... Stockton?

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                                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                  I believe brian exists. But as the qb of the browns moving forward I have my doubts.

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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                                    A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                                    It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                                    These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

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                                      A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                                      It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                                      These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

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                                      IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                      @tacosman said:

                                      A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                                      It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                                      These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

                                      Ha ha, good to have you back man. I could tell by the way you write. All wordy and disregarding of certain shit. Yeah...

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                                        @tacosman said:

                                        A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                                        It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                                        These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

                                        Ha ha, good to have you back man. I could tell by the way you write. All wordy and disregarding of certain shit. Yeah...

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                                        D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                        @ibleedbrown said:

                                        Ha ha, good to have you back man. I could tell by the way you write. All wordy and disregarding of certain shit. Yeah...

                                        Yup, Stocky zombies himself back again.

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                                          A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                                          It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                                          These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

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                                          jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tacosman said:

                                          A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                                          It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                                          These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

                                          You are a presumptuous fucking asshole. Your Aggie Manziel loving ass knows nothing about Browns fans and patience. You sign up today as you said because Manziel was starting and try to tell us about patience as Browns fans? Screw you. Your posts are littered with your arrogant bullshit. If you think his performance in the next two games have no impact on next years draft you are even dumber than your posts.
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