Mike Pettine press conference.....
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He played like he hasn't learned anything since the pre-season.
and Hoyer's June-July vs. JFF's June-July, and today's offensive plan/plays made Tim Tebow's offense look downright sophisticated, and...we'll see. The good news, lol, we can have lots of patience for the next two games then JFF has Jan.-Aug. to either improve or ride swans.
I want to wreck this fucking league. It might start this coming Sunday. JFF has the next 18 games. Wreck this league or die trying. If not (or at least making lots of progress), it will be a total rebuild from the GM down starting Jan. 2016.
If the next 2 games look like today and you think he has 18 games guaranteed you are mentally handicapped. He showed NOTHING today. Not one tiny glimpse of any talent at all. He sucked so bad Id rather see Connor Shaw. Lol and I am at least half serious about that.and Hoyer's June-July vs. JFF's June-July, and today's offensive plan/plays made Tim Tebow's offense look downright sophisticated, and...we'll see. The good news, lol, we can have lots of patience for the next two games then JFF has Jan.-Aug. to either improve or ride swans.
I want to wreck this fucking league. It might start this coming Sunday. JFF has the next 18 games. Wreck this league or die trying. If not (or at least making lots of progress), it will be a total rebuild from the GM down starting Jan. 2016.
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If the next 2 games look like today and you think he has 18 games guaranteed you are mentally handicapped. He showed NOTHING today. Not one tiny glimpse of any talent at all. He sucked so bad Id rather see Connor Shaw. Lol and I am at least half serious about that.and Hoyer's June-July vs. JFF's June-July, and today's offensive plan/plays made Tim Tebow's offense look downright sophisticated, and...we'll see. The good news, lol, we can have lots of patience for the next two games then JFF has Jan.-Aug. to either improve or ride swans.
I want to wreck this fucking league. It might start this coming Sunday. JFF has the next 18 games. Wreck this league or die trying. If not (or at least making lots of progress), it will be a total rebuild from the GM down starting Jan. 2016.
If the next 2 games look like today and you think he has 18 games guaranteed you are mentally handicapped. He showed NOTHING today. Not one tiny glimpse of any talent at all. He sucked so bad Id rather see Connor Shaw. Lol and I am at least half serious about that.
He'll get 12 total 4 this year, 8 next. Just like Geno, EJ, Jemarcus, etc. that is the issue when you draft a QB in the first round.
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If the next 2 games look like today and you think he has 18 games guaranteed you are mentally handicapped. He showed NOTHING today. Not one tiny glimpse of any talent at all. He sucked so bad Id rather see Connor Shaw. Lol and I am at least half serious about that.and Hoyer's June-July vs. JFF's June-July, and today's offensive plan/plays made Tim Tebow's offense look downright sophisticated, and...we'll see. The good news, lol, we can have lots of patience for the next two games then JFF has Jan.-Aug. to either improve or ride swans.
I want to wreck this fucking league. It might start this coming Sunday. JFF has the next 18 games. Wreck this league or die trying. If not (or at least making lots of progress), it will be a total rebuild from the GM down starting Jan. 2016.
If the next 2 games look like today and you think he has 18 games guaranteed you are mentally handicapped. He showed NOTHING today. Not one tiny glimpse of any talent at all. He sucked so bad Id rather see Connor Shaw. Lol and I am at least half serious about that.
JFF will be the starter next year and, you're right, if it's a total bust, it'll be over before the end of the season, but it'll also be over for Pettine and probably Farmer, too. It'll be a total blow-up and rebuild. At this point I'd rather see another competition (be it Hoyer, Shaw - I'm more than half serious - , a draft pick), but I don't think that's what we'll get.
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If the next 2 games look like today and you think he has 18 games guaranteed you are mentally handicapped. He showed NOTHING today. Not one tiny glimpse of any talent at all. He sucked so bad Id rather see Connor Shaw. Lol and I am at least half serious about that.
JFF will be the starter next year and, you're right, if it's a total bust, it'll be over before the end of the season, but it'll also be over for Pettine and probably Farmer, too. It'll be a total blow-up and rebuild. At this point I'd rather see another competition (be it Hoyer, Shaw - I'm more than half serious - , a draft pick), but I don't think that's what we'll get.
JFF will be the starter next year and, you're right, if it's a total bust, it'll be over before the end of the season, but it'll also be over for Pettine and probably Farmer, too. It'll be a total blow-up and rebuild. At this point I'd rather see another competition (be it Hoyer, Shaw - I'm more than half serious - , a draft pick), but I don't think that's what we'll get.
At this point meaning after one start? Jesus....it's ONE START!
That said, you are right about Pettine. He is gone if the browns don't have a good 2015, and the browns won't have a good 2015 unless manziel succeeds. And if manziel doesn't have a good 2015, he always has a chance to pull a Bret Favre with another franchise, Pettine isn't going to get another hc shot.
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JFF will be the starter next year and, you're right, if it's a total bust, it'll be over before the end of the season, but it'll also be over for Pettine and probably Farmer, too. It'll be a total blow-up and rebuild. At this point I'd rather see another competition (be it Hoyer, Shaw - I'm more than half serious - , a draft pick), but I don't think that's what we'll get.
At this point meaning after one start? Jesus....it's ONE START!
That said, you are right about Pettine. He is gone if the browns don't have a good 2015, and the browns won't have a good 2015 unless manziel succeeds. And if manziel doesn't have a good 2015, he always has a chance to pull a Bret Favre with another franchise, Pettine isn't going to get another hc shot.
At this point meaning after one start? Jesus....it's ONE START!
That said, you are right about Pettine. He is gone if the browns don't have a good 2015, and the browns won't have a good 2015 unless manziel succeeds. And if manziel doesn't have a good 2015, he always has a chance to pull a Bret Favre with another franchise, Pettine isn't going to get another hc shot.
I just said a competition, not that JFF sucks and sucks forever. You could even go with "Manziel's the No. 1 going into the offseason/preseason/camp, but he's still got to earn it..." I'm relatively pro-JFF compared to a lotta people here right now, lol. If he's not good enough to clearly beat out Connor Shaw, then, um, what are we talking about here...
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If the next 2 games look like today and you think he has 18 games guaranteed you are mentally handicapped. He showed NOTHING today. Not one tiny glimpse of any talent at all. He sucked so bad Id rather see Connor Shaw. Lol and I am at least half serious about that.
JFF will be the starter next year and, you're right, if it's a total bust, it'll be over before the end of the season, but it'll also be over for Pettine and probably Farmer, too. It'll be a total blow-up and rebuild. At this point I'd rather see another competition (be it Hoyer, Shaw - I'm more than half serious - , a draft pick), but I don't think that's what we'll get.
JFF will be the starter next year and, you're right, if it's a total bust, it'll be over before the end of the season, but it'll also be over for Pettine and probably Farmer, too. It'll be a total blow-up and rebuild. At this point I'd rather see another competition (be it Hoyer, Shaw - I'm more than half serious - , a draft pick), but I don't think that's what we'll get.
Maybe JM will be the starter, maybe the odds are that you are correct, but there are two more, 2014 games plus a whole lotta months between now and then.
Can't see a potential Manziel bust taking down Pettine and Farmer... even if Haslam had nothing to do with the pick.
Farmer had too many hits in 2014, many of which were on the cheap.
Pettine has a whole 2nd season of potential improvement ahead of him that will include healed pieces in schemes they will come into camp knowing well.
On the other hand... if Haslam was a factor in the pick, then a JM bust just might show him he best stand back and just sign the checks.
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JFF will be the starter next year and, you're right, if it's a total bust, it'll be over before the end of the season, but it'll also be over for Pettine and probably Farmer, too. It'll be a total blow-up and rebuild. At this point I'd rather see another competition (be it Hoyer, Shaw - I'm more than half serious - , a draft pick), but I don't think that's what we'll get.
Maybe JM will be the starter, maybe the odds are that you are correct, but there are two more, 2014 games plus a whole lotta months between now and then.
Can't see a potential Manziel bust taking down Pettine and Farmer... even if Haslam had nothing to do with the pick.
Farmer had too many hits in 2014, many of which were on the cheap.
Pettine has a whole 2nd season of potential improvement ahead of him that will include healed pieces in schemes they will come into camp knowing well.
On the other hand... if Haslam was a factor in the pick, then a JM bust just might show him he best stand back and just sign the checks.
Maybe JM will be the starter, maybe the odds are that you are correct, but there are two more, 2014 games plus a whole lotta months between now and then.
Can't see a potential Manziel bust taking down Pettine and Farmer... even if Haslam had nothing to do with the pick.
Farmer had too many hits in 2014, many of which were on the cheap.
Pettine has a whole 2nd season of potential improvement ahead of him that will include healed pieces in schemes they will come into camp knowing well.
On the other hand... if Haslam was a factor in the pick, then a JM bust just might show him he best stand back and just sign the checks.
I hope you're right about Pettine and Farmer's future. I don't think Haslam got where he's gotten by standing back though. Hopefully, even if JFF has some bad days (though please no more Spurgeon Wynn-bad days, is that too much to expect?) the progress shows in 2015 so it's headed in the direction of the Aggie promises. Secondarily, hopefully on some of JFF's bad days, he can figure out ways to help us win some of those games ala Hoyer because this team can "game manage" its way to 9-10 wins next season.
Jan.-Sept. is a valid caveat with JFF. He and Josh Gordon could have a great night with the swans. Shanny, Dowell and Johnny better be putting in some long days in Berea, Vegas, College Station, wherever starting about Jan. 5 for the sake of all their stays in Cleveland.
- Playoff scenarios to a shit ton of "hopefully" in one day. It's great being a Browns fan.
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Nobody is saying JF played well. Everyone watched the game. Nothing Pettine said was going to make a difference on that end. But what Pettine said didn't come across(in tone or style) as being supportive of his 22 yo first round qb. There are ways to encourage your franchise qb after a bad start- that was not the way.
Nobody is saying JF played well. Everyone watched the game. Nothing Pettine said was going to make a difference on that end. But what Pettine said didn't come across(in tone or style) as being supportive of his 22 yo first round qb. There are ways to encourage your franchise qb after a bad start- that was not the way.
Pettine was forced by GM and Owner to start Manziel. So of course he is going to slam a kid who doesn't work hard enough to get better.
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nobody knows how johnny or any player will pan out....unless they are lime a lebron james KD or AD. give Manziel TIME my God you guys will be kissing his anus if he explodes next gamw
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nobody knows how johnny or any player will pan out....unless they are lime a lebron james KD or AD. give Manziel TIME my God you guys will be kissing his anus if he explodes next gamw
nobody knows how johnny or any player will pan out....unless they are lime a lebron james KD or AD. give Manziel TIME my God you guys will be kissing his anus if he explodes next gamw
Lol a win against the Panthers? Hahaha if he wins it won't be an anus kisisng experience it will just put false hope in those Manziel jock sniffers.
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Pettine was right on the money. I was impressed with the way Manziel started his press conference but still get the impression that he doesn't grasp the NFL and he still holds on to that college success.
Pettine was right on the money. I was impressed with the way Manziel started his press conference but still get the impression that he doesn't grasp the NFL and he still holds on to that college success.
Of course he does. You have to give him at least one season before you toss him into the shitcan.
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well, back to the main point of this thread:
"Pettine took a shit this morning that had more football knowledge than you and Johnny combined.
Zombo"
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Nobody is saying JF played well. Everyone watched the game. Nothing Pettine said was going to make a difference on that end. But what Pettine said didn't come across(in tone or style) as being supportive of his 22 yo first round qb. There are ways to encourage your franchise qb after a bad start- that was not the way.
Pettine was forced by GM and Owner to start Manziel. So of course he is going to slam a kid who doesn't work hard enough to get better.
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Pettine took a shit this morning that had more football knowledge than you and Johnny combined.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Pettine took a shit this morning that had more football knowledge than you and Johnny combined.
Zombo
so that's what he's doing with all his "football knowledge," that explains everything.....
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