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  • Orange85 said:

    Johnny FB makes me embarrassed to be a Browns fan. This kid couldn't carry Hoyer, Colt, and Weeden's jock strap. He threw ball up for grabs in college and had receivers good enough to go get it. Not in the NFL. BUST….again!

    You have a thing for jock straps faggot?

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • darkside5D darkside5

    I,said it after the draft,I said it while he held the clipboard and I will now shout it from the rooftops. Manziel will never be a successful, let alone "elite" QB in the pros as some have and some still say.I believe HASLEM wanted "Johnny Sideshow" not for his presumed talent but a marketing ploy to sell shit at the pro shop. I also said and still say that the worst thing we could do is play this little shit and expose just how worthless this guy was at #22 overall. In the aftermath of Sundays debachle (and there was not one hint of the myth, the legend "Johnny Football"). We may have fucked up our chance to keep Hoyer (who I still say is a very talented Qb), and don't have near the talent we could have gotten at #22 last year. Don't get your panties in a wad, I didn't say Hoyer was going to take us to a Super Bowl but he fits the bill rather nicely as the style of qb we need as we rebuild. The qb position is normaly the biggest expense and always the the most important piece of the puzzle which in my estimation should be the last piece. Rebuild a team around the style qb you need on the cheap and when you get close spend the money. Look at the Rams ..... Sam Bradford early piece of the puzzle, ...... broke down. Look at the Broncos ....... rebuild, go out and buy Manning . And I can hear the bullshit already. Give Johnny a chance, he's only played one game, he's still learning. Well if he still needs to learn he should have STAYED IN FUCKING SCHOOL at A&M. We also have another Qb who fits the right style in Conner Shaw. He will be around the NFL long after the Sideshow is gone.

    GO BROWNS AND PLEASE GO BACK TO TEXAS JOHNNY AND GET A DEGREE, YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT!

    @darkside5 said:

    .I believe HASLEM wanted "Johnny Sideshow" not for his presumed talent but a marketing ploy to sell shit at the pro shop.

    i don't think that all. i think haslam made the pick as part of the a 'good-ole boy' network.

    i think the whole team played like shit BUT if we aren't one of the most injured teams right now i don't know anyone who's better than us record-wise that is.

    mack and taylor's loss have to account for 3 losses alone and yesterday no haden.............ummm it'd be hard pressed to see any of our QBs perform well.

    now what i saw of manziel was exactly what i thought i'd see from him. a scared kid. throwing him in in the preseason and then against buffalo's scrub squad defense was no test whatsoever. throwing him in against cinci's D who came to kill the kid was another. i saw him take some licks. i saw him make a couple of throws. i saw him make a couple of runs.

    now if he can quadruple that production we might have something.

    but i also saw him get hit like a slab of baloney between two big pieces of mean bengal bread.

    myself i think he's headed for a stretcher. farmer shoulda picked up the phone to any team in TX before yesterday. now his stock is worth as much as a ryan fitzpatrick.

  • You guys sound like a bunch of whining, catty, bitchy, middle-school girls...

    It's like "Team Manziel" vs. "Team Whoever"

    Get over it. The team sucked yesterday, and Manziel looked like shit. So, we're going to sh** all over our starting QB because he sucked in his debut?? Why? Because "you don't like him" or he "parties too much."

    Bunch of girls... All this Anti- or Pro-Manziel sh** is really making me hate this board recently...

    Does anybody want to talk about anything else?

    #Justsayin'
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  • I wish to hell I could tell what they are saying. There is no way they should be laughing at any point of that game. They should both be completely ashamed and if Shanahan had any balls he would have went ballistic on them.

  • thenew23T thenew23

    You guys sound like a bunch of whining, catty, bitchy, middle-school girls...

    It's like "Team Manziel" vs. "Team Whoever"

    Get over it. The team sucked yesterday, and Manziel looked like shit. So, we're going to sh** all over our starting QB because he sucked in his debut?? Why? Because "you don't like him" or he "parties too much."

    Bunch of girls... All this Anti- or Pro-Manziel sh** is really making me hate this board recently...

    Does anybody want to talk about anything else?

    @thenew23 said:

    You guys sound like a bunch of whining, catty, bitchy, middle-school girls...

    It's like "Team Manziel" vs. "Team Whoever"

    Get over it. The team sucked yesterday, and Manziel looked like shit. So, we're going to sh** all over our starting QB because he sucked in his debut?? Why? Because "you don't like him" or he "parties too much."

    Bunch of girls... All this Anti- or Pro-Manziel sh** is really making me hate this board recently...

    Does anybody want to talk about anything else?

    i kept out of all the shit yesterday and am just commenting today after settling down and thinking about it clearly.

    i want the browns to win. i want the browns to be able to fill the holes next year without having to think about drafting another QB.

    now if you can say manziel even closely looked like a NFL QB yesterday then give me the number to your drug dealer. cuz you were obviously HIGH.

    and you can't say it's manziel fans against hoyer fans because at least the hoyer fans admitted when the dude looked like shit. manziel fans will disappear like a fart in the wind if he plays like he did yesterday in the next two games.

    i've lived through worse than this during a brown's season. i'd love to see us make it to 500%. but if you can't take this ribbing no matter what side you're on you might want to go buy a pair of big boy pants.

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  • they're probably laughing excitedly that they'll both be out of cleveland next year.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @thenew23 said:

    You guys sound like a bunch of whining, catty, bitchy, middle-school girls...

    It's like "Team Manziel" vs. "Team Whoever"

    Get over it. The team sucked yesterday, and Manziel looked like shit. So, we're going to sh** all over our starting QB because he sucked in his debut?? Why? Because "you don't like him" or he "parties too much."

    Bunch of girls... All this Anti- or Pro-Manziel sh** is really making me hate this board recently...

    Does anybody want to talk about anything else?

    i kept out of all the shit yesterday and am just commenting today after settling down and thinking about it clearly.

    i want the browns to win. i want the browns to be able to fill the holes next year without having to think about drafting another QB.

    now if you can say manziel even closely looked like a NFL QB yesterday then give me the number to your drug dealer. cuz you were obviously HIGH.

    and you can't say it's manziel fans against hoyer fans because at least the hoyer fans admitted when the dude looked like shit. manziel fans will disappear like a fart in the wind if he plays like he did yesterday in the next two games.

    i've lived through worse than this during a brown's season. i'd love to see us make it to 500%. but if you can't take this ribbing no matter what side you're on you might want to go buy a pair of big boy pants.

    @miktoxic said:

    i kept out of all the shit yesterday and am just commenting today after settling down and thinking about it clearly.

    i want the browns to win. i want the browns to be able to fill the holes next year without having to think about drafting another QB.

    now if you can say manziel even closely looked like a NFL QB yesterday then give me the number to your drug dealer. cuz you were obviously HIGH.

    and you can't say it's manziel fans against hoyer fans because at least the hoyer fans admitted when the dude looked like shit. manziel fans will disappear like a fart in the wind if he plays like he did yesterday in the next two games.

    i've lived through worse than this during a brown's season. i'd love to see us make it to 500%. but if you can't take this ribbing no matter what side you're on you might want to go buy a pair of big boy pants.

    Man, what an insult to Fitz!

  • W Westside Steve

    Tour batting .500 gets you into the Hall of Fame... But, & I don't know if you recall, last year I spent plenty of time pointing out to the haters that Brandon Weeden had absolutely no running game and a much worse offensive line then we have now. & a defense that was gassed by the 4th quarter. And Greg Little to throw to and drop passes. Yes there was Gordon but the rest were horrible.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Tour batting .500 gets you into the Hall of Fame... But, & I don't know if you recall, last year I spent plenty of time pointing out to the haters that Brandon Weeden had absolutely no running game and a much worse offensive line then we have now. & a defense that was gassed by the 4th quarter. And Greg Little to throw to and drop passes. Yes there was Gordon but the rest were horrible.

    I do not recall your Wheezy-boy status. What are you the patron Saint of lost QBs? 😉

    But, yes... Janet... over Chrissy or any of her "cousins".

    @aggie-brown-fan said:

    One thing that struck me Sunday was his lack of confidence. He exuded a hesitance I've never seen from him before, not even in his worst college games. As I watched, I never saw the same Johnny that always looked like he thought he could win, no matter what the score was.

    Still only watching highlights (or lowlights), but think I have a sense of where you are going.

    I'm seeing a QB aiming the ball, not cutting it loose.

    I'm seeing a "first start" against a quality team, not unexpected mop up duty vs. back-ups.

    I think it's uncertainty, not speed...

    I think it's thinking, not playing...

    I think it's a college boy in a pro game.

    It ain't over, but the boy has a lot of work to do.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • thenew23T thenew23

    You guys sound like a bunch of whining, catty, bitchy, middle-school girls...

    It's like "Team Manziel" vs. "Team Whoever"

    Get over it. The team sucked yesterday, and Manziel looked like shit. So, we're going to sh** all over our starting QB because he sucked in his debut?? Why? Because "you don't like him" or he "parties too much."

    Bunch of girls... All this Anti- or Pro-Manziel sh** is really making me hate this board recently...

    Does anybody want to talk about anything else?

    @thenew23 said:

    You guys sound like a bunch of whining, catty, bitchy, middle-school girls...

    It's like "Team Manziel" vs. "Team Whoever"

    Get over it. The team sucked yesterday, and Manziel looked like shit. So, we're going to sh** all over our starting QB because he sucked in his debut?? Why? Because "you don't like him" or he "parties too much."

    Bunch of girls... All this Anti- or Pro-Manziel sh** is really making me hate this board recently...

    Does anybody want to talk about anything else?

    What do you suggest? The weather? World peace? It is a Browns board after all and we just watched Jesus Manziel demonstrate zero skill of any kind. What did you think the topic would be??????? Also in fairness I saw plenty of posts from Hoyer supporters (myself included) last week supporting the move to Manziel. This isn't about an us or them scenario. It is about watching a QB that was completely and utterly clueless and overwhelmed help the rest of our team who gave up in advance of the implosion at QB.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Orange85 said:

    Johnny FB makes me embarrassed to be a Browns fan. This kid couldn't carry Hoyer, Colt, and Weeden's jock strap. He threw ball up for grabs in college and had receivers good enough to go get it. Not in the NFL. BUST….again!

    You have a thing for jock straps faggot?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You have a thing for jock straps faggot?

    Every time DieHard uses the word 'faggot' it helps him forget one of the many cocks he's had in his mouth. Keep going buddy, only about a thousand more and you'll be straight!

    You're not fooling anybody.

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @tour2ma said:

    Punt holder?

    Interesting concept

    @mudfly said:

    Interesting concept

    Sometimes ya gotta be creative when it comes to utilizing rare talent...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Bunch of faggot wannabe fans. Throw the rookie under the bus after his first NFL start. its all on JFF. Fugging faggot ass bitches.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Bunch of faggot wannabe fans. Throw the rookie under the bus after his first NFL start. its all on JFF. Fugging faggot ass bitches.

    The Hoyer chants in the stadium were fucking ridiculous. Stupid morons. Johnny is here, back him up. He is a brown now. He's the starter

  • TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Bunch of faggot wannabe fans. Throw the rookie under the bus after his first NFL start. its all on JFF. Fugging faggot ass bitches.

    The Hoyer chants in the stadium were fucking ridiculous. Stupid morons. Johnny is here, back him up. He is a brown now. He's the starter

    @typicalbrowns said:

    The Hoyer chants in the stadium were fucking ridiculous. Stupid morons. Johnny is here, back him up. He is a brown now. He's the starter

    Johnny chants were equally ridiculous - didn't stop anybody.

  • hahaha.....fans have been screaming "bum" since sports began.....was that your first game?

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @mudfly said:

    Interesting concept

    Sometimes ya gotta be creative when it comes to utilizing rare talent...

    @tour2ma said:

    Sometimes ya gotta be creative when it comes to utilizing rare talent...

    Once in a decade talent, or so I'm told

  • A Aggie Brown fan

    I didn't listen to the whole thing, still a bit shell-shocked. What I heard sounded ok, but I think, as others have said, he seems to always say the right things. He needs to show improvement on the field, or it means nothing.

    One thing that struck me Sunday was his lack of confidence. He exuded a hesitance I've never seen from him before, not even in his worst college games. As I watched, I never saw the same Johnny that always looked like he thought he could win, no matter what the score was.

    Hopefully, this is just the normal rookie thing going on, and he just needs to adapt to NFL speed. It's maybe a good thing that the team didn't play well, either, as it would suck for Johnny to be the only reason the team lost.

    Looking back, I sure wish hoyer had played well and won vs. Indy and left Johnny on the bench. The fact that Johnny played seemed to fire cincy up. If Hoyer played Sunday, maybe the whole game plays our dufferently.

    Sucks. I suck. Sucks to be me. I hope things turn around.

    @aggie-brown-fan said:

    I didn't listen to the whole thing, still a bit shell-shocked. What I heard sounded ok, but I think, as others have said, he seems to always say the right things. He needs to show improvement on the field, or it means nothing.

    One thing that struck me Sunday was his lack of confidence. He exuded a hesitance I've never seen from him before, not even in his worst college games. As I watched, I never saw the same Johnny that always looked like he thought he could win, no matter what the score was.

    Hopefully, this is just the normal rookie thing going on, and he just needs to adapt to NFL speed. It's maybe a good thing that the team didn't play well, either, as it would suck for Johnny to be the only reason the team lost.

    Looking back, I sure wish hoyer had played well and won vs. Indy and left Johnny on the bench. The fact that Johnny played seemed to fire cincy up. If Hoyer played Sunday, maybe the whole game plays our dufferently.

    Sucks. I suck. Sucks to be me. I hope things turn around.

    Good honest post bro, hopefully it gets better

  • So the members who were calling for Manziel when Hoyer was starting now want all to fall in line like good little Browns' fans and "back our starter?"

    Interesting...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • darkside5D darkside5

    I,said it after the draft,I said it while he held the clipboard and I will now shout it from the rooftops. Manziel will never be a successful, let alone "elite" QB in the pros as some have and some still say.I believe HASLEM wanted "Johnny Sideshow" not for his presumed talent but a marketing ploy to sell shit at the pro shop. I also said and still say that the worst thing we could do is play this little shit and expose just how worthless this guy was at #22 overall. In the aftermath of Sundays debachle (and there was not one hint of the myth, the legend "Johnny Football"). We may have fucked up our chance to keep Hoyer (who I still say is a very talented Qb), and don't have near the talent we could have gotten at #22 last year. Don't get your panties in a wad, I didn't say Hoyer was going to take us to a Super Bowl but he fits the bill rather nicely as the style of qb we need as we rebuild. The qb position is normaly the biggest expense and always the the most important piece of the puzzle which in my estimation should be the last piece. Rebuild a team around the style qb you need on the cheap and when you get close spend the money. Look at the Rams ..... Sam Bradford early piece of the puzzle, ...... broke down. Look at the Broncos ....... rebuild, go out and buy Manning . And I can hear the bullshit already. Give Johnny a chance, he's only played one game, he's still learning. Well if he still needs to learn he should have STAYED IN FUCKING SCHOOL at A&M. We also have another Qb who fits the right style in Conner Shaw. He will be around the NFL long after the Sideshow is gone.

    GO BROWNS AND PLEASE GO BACK TO TEXAS JOHNNY AND GET A DEGREE, YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT!

    @darkside5 said:

    I,said it after the draft,I said it while he held the clipboard and I will now shout it from the rooftops. Manziel will never be a successful, let alone "elite" QB in the pros as some have and some still say.I believe HASLEM wanted "Johnny Sideshow" not for his presumed talent but a marketing ploy to sell shit at the pro shop. I also said and still say that the worst thing we could do is play this little shit and expose just how worthless this guy was at #22 overall. In the aftermath of Sundays debachle (and there was not one hint of the myth, the legend "Johnny Football"). We may have fucked up our chance to keep Hoyer (who I still say is a very talented Qb), and don't have near the talent we could have gotten at #22 last year. Don't get your panties in a wad, I didn't say Hoyer was going to take us to a Super Bowl but he fits the bill rather nicely as the style of qb we need as we rebuild. The qb position is normaly the biggest expense and always the the most important piece of the puzzle which in my estimation should be the last piece. Rebuild a team around the style qb you need on the cheap and when you get close spend the money. Look at the Rams ..... Sam Bradford early piece of the puzzle, ...... broke down. Look at the Broncos ....... rebuild, go out and buy Manning . And I can hear the bullshit already. Give Johnny a chance, he's only played one game, he's still learning. Well if he still needs to learn he should have STAYED IN FUCKING SCHOOL at A&M. We also have another Qb who fits the right style in Conner Shaw. He will be around the NFL long after the Sideshow is gone.

    GO BROWNS AND PLEASE GO BACK TO TEXAS JOHNNY AND GET A DEGREE, YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT!

    Douche

  • T TexasAg1969

    @mudfly said:

    and only manzielots are glad the rest of the team played poorly....cause it helps with their JFF pain.

    That would not include me. I was very disappointed that the D could not tackle their way out of a wet paper bag and the O line looked like a spaghetti drainer. I've said many times how much I like D and O line play and for some reason yesterday both deserted the team. I am very worried about the future of the Browns for that alone. When I support a team I want the whole team to do well, not just one player. If I'd have thought pulling JM for Hoyer would have changed the game I'd have been all for it, but yesterday Jesus could not have stopped the bleeding. I thought they had it turned around and then they shoot two blanks on the same day. If I'm Pettine I'm wondering what the hell happened, cause I sure as hell don't know.

    @texasag1969 said:

    That would not include me.

    If I'd have thought pulling JM for Hoyer would have changed the game I'd have been all for it, but yesterday Jesus could not have stopped the bleeding. I thought they had it turned around and then they shoot two blanks on the same day. If I'm Pettine I'm wondering what the hell happened, cause I sure as hell don't know.

    We know that does not include you, Ag...

    I did call for Hoyer from The Tavern sometime in the second QTR. Same call I made, and at about the same point of the game as I did for JM in the IND game.

    This time I called because it was clear JM was about to bleed out. Even if it was only for a series, even if Hoyer sucked as bad. Give the kid a series to sit, and either see it's not all him or what can work.

    No idea how it would have gone... but it could not have gone worse.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Watching that debacle yesterday made me wonder if the vets on the offensive (and they were truly offensive in every sense of the word) intentionally non-blocked that way to take Manzel down a notch. He gets great press, his jersey is #1 but they wanted to remind him to be a team player. No punk kid is better than us. Bunch of morons and to put this loss on Manziel takes mentally deficient thinking.

    Looks like they were paid to play that way because I haven't seen them play that pitifully all year.

    No more "Sunday ticket" for me. Watching JJ Watt locally is a damn sight more fun than watching the Brown's games this year (except for the Thurs Bungles game). The only way the wife originally agreed to it was the Aeros hockey club was forced out of town by the Rocket's owner ($ 40,000 rent a game for an AHL team).

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