Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Depends on how long it takes the FO to realize that JH really screwed them and its time to move on..If they keep throwing him out there just because, then yes it will be the EOW.
Depends on how long it takes the FO to realize that JH really screwed them and its time to move on..If they keep throwing him out there just because, then yes it will be the EOW.
Exactly. Recognize it quickly and move on, it stings, but try to keep pounding that short, square peg into that star shaped hole, and it will be devastating.
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Manziel only cost the Browns Trent Richardson. Compare this to what Washington had to give up to get RG3. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Sometimes you just have to laugh to keep from crying.
GO BROWNS !
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Sometimes you just have to laugh to keep from crying.
GO BROWNS !
This ^
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You might be right ^^ but I still would have felt alot better about the clowning around if the Browns were up 23-0 and dominating the Bengals at that moment.
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I agree, not the end of the world. They should be able to tell something in these next 2 games. His athletic ability is solid, it's the recognition of what's going on past the line that he needs to get much better at.
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I would disagree on Buf, Wash, TB being set at QB. All 3 are in need of an upgrade at the very least
Im not saying theyre set long term, but the QBs there deserve or will get another year. TB may make a huge QB splash in the draft, but McCown may start over the rookie anyways.I would disagree on Buf, Wash, TB being set at QB. All 3 are in need of an upgrade at the very least
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Manziel only cost the Browns Trent Richardson. Compare this to what Washington had to give up to get RG3. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Monetarily the Browns made out pretty good on that #3 pick. They sold a crap ton of Richardson jerseys, then flipped him for Manziel, and I cant imagine what theyve made off royalties from him.Manziel only cost the Browns Trent Richardson. Compare this to what Washington had to give up to get RG3. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Yes... Johnny was the fourth and final Horseman, Death.
The first, Conquest, was Couch.
The second, War, was Quinn.
The third, Famine, Wheezy.
The set is now complete. If Johnny fails, then comes the rapture...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Just a lot of inexperience in our O-line depth.
Nick McDonald was a OG/OT in college and got work at Center with NE. He was only pressed into service after our Vet back-up, Paul McQuistan, SDHL* at RG vs. JAX that saw Greco at Center. Nick was developing before his ankle injury.
Ryan was next up, so we're now 4-deep at Center. And now Ryan is improving.
Besides experience the glaring thing that none of our fill-ins, save Greco, have shown is the strength to play the position.
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BH: Maybe we should go duck hunting tomorrow.
JM: Yeah we both threw enough up there so should be a good day.
BH: Well except for the 4 the DB's ran off with.
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Maybe they were lauging at the 50 mill that holmgren ripped the browns off for!
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only ten? SD, Den, KC, Pit, Bal, Cin, Ind, NE, Mia, Dal,, Atl, NO, Car, GB, Det, Sea are set. Teams that probably wont make a big move and may be set are Oak, Jax, Buf, NYG, Was, Phi, TB, Min, SF, Ari. Some of those teams may make moves but I believe their QBs still have value. Teams in trouble are Cle, Hou, Ten, NYJ, Chi, Stl.It's our way of doing things. Seems like allot of teams right now are trying to figure out what they have. There might be about ten teams that set with their qb.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
only ten? SD, Den, KC, Pit, Bal, Cin, Ind, NE, Mia, Dal,, Atl, NO, Car, GB, Det, Sea are set. Teams that probably wont make a big move and may be set are Oak, Jax, Buf, NYG, Was, Phi, TB, Min, SF, Ari. Some of those teams may make moves but I believe their QBs still have value. Teams in trouble are Cle, Hou, Ten, NYJ, Chi, Stl.
Living here in Tampa, I know they're going Winston or Mariota. Lovie Smith does not like Glennon and McCown was a bust.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Id say the Cowboys need to draft a qb soon. Romo is not going to last much longer. Payton Manning is getting old too.
Broncos have Osweiler
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Manziel only cost the Browns Trent Richardson. Compare this to what Washington had to give up to get RG3. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Manziel only cost the Browns Trent Richardson. Compare this to what Washington had to give up to get RG3. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
You said it. All we gave up is Trent Richardson. So no way is this the end of the world as we know it. I disagreed with the pick but he's only played ONE game with a broken down O line. No one could expect miracles.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
only ten? SD, Den, KC, Pit, Bal, Cin, Ind, NE, Mia, Dal,, Atl, NO, Car, GB, Det, Sea are set. Teams that probably wont make a big move and may be set are Oak, Jax, Buf, NYG, Was, Phi, TB, Min, SF, Ari. Some of those teams may make moves but I believe their QBs still have value. Teams in trouble are Cle, Hou, Ten, NYJ, Chi, Stl.
Living here in Tampa, I know they're going Winston or Mariota. Lovie Smith does not like Glennon and McCown was a bust.
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