What QB Stats (if any) Translate College Success into NFL Success?
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You only mentioned the great good or undecideds. There's got to be some turds in the upper echelon.
WSS
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You only mentioned the great good or undecideds. There's got to be some turds in the upper echelon.
WSS
You only mentioned the great good or undecideds. There's got to be some turds in the upper echelon.
WSS
Yep...lots of turds....here is a selection of ist round picks from just the last 10 years.....all 1st rounders.....
Manuel
RGIII
Weeden
Locker
Gabbert
Ponder
Bradford
Tebow
Sanchez
Freeman
J. Russell
Quinn
V. Young
Leinert
Cutler
Campbell
Losman
So....in 10 years, a total of 31 QB's have been picked 1st round.....and the 17 listed above have been less than good so far.....
Which means there are still 14 out there who either are playing well....or still unproven(including this years class of 3).....
And I guess the only point is that these guys all had SOMETHING the experts liked from college....they were the best of the best and most had great college stats....or the perfect skill set....or the best body type....but still fell short at a rate greater than 50%
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^Love him or hate him, Jay Cutler isn't a 1st round dud.
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Just like hardcore porn .....you know it when you see it!
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^Love him or hate him, Jay Cutler isn't a 1st round dud.
^Love him or hate him, Jay Cutler isn't a 1st round dud.
Ok, whatever....He's great then!....the best!
Now, lets see if Chicago thinks so, because right now he's on the bench.....
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Cutler is average at best He has talent but he isn't a very good QB.
He's been in the league 9 years and made the playoffs 1 time. He's made the pro bowl 1 time also. He's only had 1 4000 yard season too. His 61-55 record is about average.
He does have a boat load of cash and a hot wife though
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Cutler is average at best He has talent but he isn't a very good QB.
He's been in the league 9 years and made the playoffs 1 time. He's made the pro bowl 1 time also. He's only had 1 4000 yard season too. His 61-55 record is about average.
He does have a boat load of cash and a hot wife though
Cutler is average at best He has talent but he isn't a very good QB.
He's been in the league 9 years and made the playoffs 1 time. He's made the pro bowl 1 time also. He's only had 1 4000 yard season too. His 61-55 record is about average.
He does have a boat load of cash and a hot wife though
Relative to some of those guys on that list, he's definitely not a dud. Weeden is a dud. Tebow was a dud. Big difference.
Ok, whatever....He's great then!....the best!
Now, lets see if Chicago thinks so, because right now he's on the bench.....
Simmer down.
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Cutler is average at best He has talent but he isn't a very good QB.
He's been in the league 9 years and made the playoffs 1 time. He's made the pro bowl 1 time also. He's only had 1 4000 yard season too. His 61-55 record is about average.
He does have a boat load of cash and a hot wife though
Relative to some of those guys on that list, he's definitely not a dud. Weeden is a dud. Tebow was a dud. Big difference.
Ok, whatever....He's great then!....the best!
Now, lets see if Chicago thinks so, because right now he's on the bench.....
Simmer down.
Relative to some of those guys on that list, he's definitely not a dud. Weeden is a dud. Tebow was a dud. Big difference.
Simmer down.
I didn't say dud, but he's not good either
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Cutler is average at best He has talent but he isn't a very good QB.
He's been in the league 9 years and made the playoffs 1 time. He's made the pro bowl 1 time also. He's only had 1 4000 yard season too. His 61-55 record is about average.
He does have a boat load of cash and a hot wife though
Relative to some of those guys on that list, he's definitely not a dud. Weeden is a dud. Tebow was a dud. Big difference.
Ok, whatever....He's great then!....the best!
Now, lets see if Chicago thinks so, because right now he's on the bench.....
Simmer down.
Simmer down.
Simmering just fine....still think he's a dud
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You only mentioned the great good or undecideds. There's got to be some turds in the upper echelon.
WSS
You only mentioned the great good or undecideds. There's got to be some turds in the upper echelon.
Plenty... as well as a whole lotta "Who?"
Pick a link any link... or I could read and record the entire list, e-mail it to you...
You lazy fuck...
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Cutler is average at best He has talent but he isn't a very good QB.
He's been in the league 9 years and made the playoffs 1 time. He's made the pro bowl 1 time also. He's only had 1 4000 yard season too. His 61-55 record is about average.
He does have a boat load of cash and a hot wife though
Relative to some of those guys on that list, he's definitely not a dud. Weeden is a dud. Tebow was a dud. Big difference.
Ok, whatever....He's great then!....the best!
Now, lets see if Chicago thinks so, because right now he's on the bench.....
Simmer down.
Relative to some of those guys on that list, he's definitely not a dud. Weeden is a dud. Tebow was a dud. Big difference.
Agree... Cutler's no dud. He's a "couldabeen"... in the end they are even more destructive.
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Rule #1: Must not run the spread option. Eliminate all QBs who ran spread option in college, including Marcus Mariota (who will suck in the NFL). The spread option has fucked up all these stat comparisions.
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You only mentioned the great good or undecideds. There's got to be some turds in the upper echelon.
Plenty... as well as a whole lotta "Who?"
Pick a link any link... or I could read and record the entire list, e-mail it to you...
You lazy fuck...
Plenty... as well as a whole lotta "Who?"
Pick a link any link... or I could read and record the entire list, e-mail it to you...
You lazy fuck...
Oh since there are only a few listed I assumed the rest sucked or didn't count.
I'd try to cobble together a point from that, but as you say...
WSS
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NFL wins.
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Rule #1: Must not run the spread option. Eliminate all QBs who ran spread option in college, including Marcus Mariota (who will suck in the NFL). The spread option has fucked up all these stat comparisions.
Rule #1: Must not run the spread option. Eliminate all QBs who ran spread option in college, including Marcus Mariota (who will suck in the NFL). The spread option has fucked up all these stat comparisions.
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Our pal Shep said one of the best predictors is # of games played in college. No it isn't. Sure, you have guys like the Mannings and Rotlisberger- but there's a bunch of NFL bums who were 4 year starters- like Colt McCoy- or worse- who never did jack in the pros.
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I agree the spread offense is hurting the college QB's chances of making it in the NFL. NFL QB's need to win from the pocket by reading defenses and making the correct throw. The spread doesn't help those skills.
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give me a guy who can read a defense, go through progressions quickly and deliver the ball accurately.
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I would say physicality plays a much larger role than stats.
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give me a guy who can read a defense, go through progressions quickly and deliver the ball accurately.
give me a guy who can read a defense, go through progressions quickly and deliver the ball accurately.
Brian Hoyer?
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give me a guy who can read a defense, go through progressions quickly and deliver the ball accurately.
Brian Hoyer?
Brian Hoyer?
The Dr. Jekyll version, sure. You can keep Mr. Hyde Hoyer
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