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  • thenew23T thenew23

    @tour2ma said:

    Ditto on Hoyer, but still hard to see happening.

    Here's the full list of QB FAs...

    http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/quarterback/

    Actually the name you mentioned that I could see fitting is Locker. Question with him is health, but I see some good with him in our offense... at least the Hoyer version.

    From the link's full list only one or two that interest me although in at least one case I am not sure why:

    - Locker; and

    - Jordan Palmer, the choice I'm a bit at a loss to explain except that I've seen glimpses of his brother from time to time.

    We NEED someone to compete with Manziel for the starter, and be a competent backup in case something happens... I'm not ready to go into 2015 with Manziel and Shaw as our QB depth...

    I'd love to re-sign Hoyer and give him another open competition with Manziel in camp. I don't see why that can't happen...BUT if Hoyer leaves...

    Locker has the most talent of the FAs left, but he has continuously been injured and would probably not be a reliable guy

    I'd be interested in Christian Ponder. He has a unique still set and has had some success in the NFL. Look at his 2012 stat-line, it is MUCH better than Hoyer's was this year. He has not looked so good recently, but he seems to have the ability to succeed in the right system, and maybe our system would fit.

    I also have some interest in Austin Davis. He's played well as a 3rd string QB this year, but he doesn't have the same pedigree or shear talent that Ponder has.

    Also...

    We have enough draft picks, why wouldn't we draft another QB?

    I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott...

    How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...

    I think we'd be idiots not to bring in both a FA vet backup/fringe starter AND spend a pick on a guy who has talent as well...

    @thenew23 said:

    I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott...

    How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...

    I think we'd be idiots not to bring in both a FA vet backup/fringe starter AND spend a pick on a guy who has talent as well...

    I'm not a big fan of the idea of using yet another draft pick on a QB, but Hundley in the 3rd would be too good to pass up.

  • R RoyceRolls

    @thenew23 said:

    I don't mean an early pick, but what about if Hundley fell to the 3rd, or Petty or Prescott...

    How about Grayson, Carden, Fajardo, or Mannion with a mid-round pick... hell we have 2 4th round picks...

    I think we'd be idiots not to bring in both a FA vet backup/fringe starter AND spend a pick on a guy who has talent as well...

    I'm not a big fan of the idea of using yet another draft pick on a QB, but Hundley in the 3rd would be too good to pass up.

    @roycerolls said:

    I'm not a big fan of the idea of using yet another draft pick on a QB, but Hundley in the 3rd would be too good to pass up.

    If you don't have a franchise QB, you're looking for one...

    We don't have one, so what position could possibly be more important to invest a draft pick in than QB?

    Just my line of thinking...

    #Justsayin'
    tiamat63T Tour2maT 2 Replies

  • 1 game is way to early to dismiss a rookie QB. I bet the Browns stick with Manziel next season (I hope, it would be nice to have consistency for once) and sign some veteran as a mentor. With Manziel and Shaw (assuming Hoyer leaves), I would rather get a veteran QB than roll the dice on another rookie. Browns can probably sign Sexy Rexy for cheap and let him teach Johnny Shanahan's playbook.

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    in the first 2 rounds. I don't care after that.

    @unsympathetic said:

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    in the first 2 rounds. I don't care after that.

    Yes, this. This is what the Browns need right now, depth on both lines before anything else. I wouldn't mind a stud WR too once the lines are set.

  • thenew23T thenew23

    @roycerolls said:

    I'm not a big fan of the idea of using yet another draft pick on a QB, but Hundley in the 3rd would be too good to pass up.

    If you don't have a franchise QB, you're looking for one...

    We don't have one, so what position could possibly be more important to invest a draft pick in than QB?

    Just my line of thinking...

    @thenew23 said:

    If you don't have a franchise QB, you're looking for one...

    We don't have one, so what position could possibly be more important to invest a draft pick in than QB?

    Just my line of thinking...

    You don't go out attempting to convince yourself a player is a franchise worthy QB. That's how you end up with the Ponders, Lockers, Cassell's and Young's of the NFL.

  • thenew23T thenew23

    @roycerolls said:

    I'm not a big fan of the idea of using yet another draft pick on a QB, but Hundley in the 3rd would be too good to pass up.

    If you don't have a franchise QB, you're looking for one...

    We don't have one, so what position could possibly be more important to invest a draft pick in than QB?

    Just my line of thinking...

    @thenew23 said:

    If you don't have a franchise QB, you're looking for one...

    We don't have one, so what position could possibly be more important to invest a draft pick in than QB?

    Yup... I've said since day one here, you're always looking for your next QB. The only thing that impacts how hard you look/ the price you'll pay... is the performance of the QB you have.

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  • damn Avril's off the mkt. Was kind of hoping we might take a look at him as a possible FA signing next year.

  • I haven't even started thinking draft. Not until we're mathematically eliminated anyways. What is our draft stats as of right now? What is Buffalo's pick? We are around what draft slot this year? What is the best possible pick we could get at this time? After that we could start to figure out what will be available.

    As of right now, I'd like a Star Linebacker. Dansby wont last forever. It's time for a MLB that will dominate in orange and brown for a long time.

    Then maybe OL, WR/TE, FB and a fucking K>

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  • I've started seeing Landon Collins (S) as a first pick for the Browns. Like i've been saying for months. Unless we can get one of the stud OL, Landon would be a great safety-in-waiting behind Whitner.

    I don't like WalterFootball's second pick (in the 1st) for us though, Sammie Coates. Awesome physical specimen, but he never been productive in college. More athlete than football player. Gametape > combine results.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    I haven't even started thinking draft. Not until we're mathematically eliminated anyways. What is our draft stats as of right now? What is Buffalo's pick? We are around what draft slot this year? What is the best possible pick we could get at this time? After that we could start to figure out what will be available.

    As of right now, I'd like a Star Linebacker. Dansby wont last forever. It's time for a MLB that will dominate in orange and brown for a long time.

    Then maybe OL, WR/TE, FB and a fucking K>

    @poeticg said:

    I haven't even started thinking draft. Not until we're mathematically eliminated anyways.

    Well..now that has happened.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    I haven't even started thinking draft. Not until we're mathematically eliminated anyways. What is our draft stats as of right now? What is Buffalo's pick? We are around what draft slot this year? What is the best possible pick we could get at this time? After that we could start to figure out what will be available.

    As of right now, I'd like a Star Linebacker. Dansby wont last forever. It's time for a MLB that will dominate in orange and brown for a long time.

    Then maybe OL, WR/TE, FB and a fucking K>

    @poeticg said:

    Then maybe OL, WR/TE, FB and a fucking K>

    the worst fantasy GM ever.

  • BPA in any of the front 7 positions.

  • After todays game... Qb, Denzel perryman, oline, dline.

  • The good news is we wont be needed RB's & CB;s for while......but ill take bpa at just about any other spot

  • now draft talk?

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  • Just a thought here, but why not dedicate a draft to the line of scrimmage. That area where games are won and lost. Since 1963 I remember a few HOFers and all pros populating the line on both sides of the ball and we won a lot of games. By hook or crook the old team always had a bunch of bad assed O and D linemen. Now, we have no depth and marginal talent. Been that way since 99. Change it up and DRAFT A FUCKING LINE already! Doing the same thing over and over is just insane!

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  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug

    Just a thought here, but why not dedicate a draft to the line of scrimmage. That area where games are won and lost. Since 1963 I remember a few HOFers and all pros populating the line on both sides of the ball and we won a lot of games. By hook or crook the old team always had a bunch of bad assed O and D linemen. Now, we have no depth and marginal talent. Been that way since 99. Change it up and DRAFT A FUCKING LINE already! Doing the same thing over and over is just insane!

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Just a thought here, but why not dedicate a draft to the line of scrimmage. That area where games are won and lost. Since 1963 I remember a few HOFers and all pros populating the line on both sides of the ball and we won a lot of games. By hook or crook the old team always had a bunch of bad assed O and D linemen. Now, we have no depth and marginal talent. Been that way since 99. Change it up and DRAFT A FUCKING LINE already! Doing the same thing over and over is just insane!

    I agree 100% unfortunately, & I don't know if it's specific to Cleveland, but there is too much emphasis placed on the quarterback.

    It hasn't been a successful plan since the return.

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  • W Westside Steve

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Just a thought here, but why not dedicate a draft to the line of scrimmage. That area where games are won and lost. Since 1963 I remember a few HOFers and all pros populating the line on both sides of the ball and we won a lot of games. By hook or crook the old team always had a bunch of bad assed O and D linemen. Now, we have no depth and marginal talent. Been that way since 99. Change it up and DRAFT A FUCKING LINE already! Doing the same thing over and over is just insane!

    I agree 100% unfortunately, & I don't know if it's specific to Cleveland, but there is too much emphasis placed on the quarterback.

    It hasn't been a successful plan since the return.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I agree 100% unfortunately, & I don't know if it's specific to Cleveland, but there is too much emphasis placed on the quarterback.

    It hasn't been a successful plan since the return.

    WSS

    I think that's why Bermie is so nuts. Without a real good line, Browns are just spinning wheels and selling tickets. Guys like Golic and Dieken were the ones winning ballgames

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug

    Just a thought here, but why not dedicate a draft to the line of scrimmage. That area where games are won and lost. Since 1963 I remember a few HOFers and all pros populating the line on both sides of the ball and we won a lot of games. By hook or crook the old team always had a bunch of bad assed O and D linemen. Now, we have no depth and marginal talent. Been that way since 99. Change it up and DRAFT A FUCKING LINE already! Doing the same thing over and over is just insane!

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Just a thought here, but why not dedicate a draft to the line of scrimmage. That area where games are won and lost. Since 1963 I remember a few HOFers and all pros populating the line on both sides of the ball and we won a lot of games. By hook or crook the old team always had a bunch of bad assed O and D linemen. Now, we have no depth and marginal talent. Been that way since 99. Change it up and DRAFT A FUCKING LINE already! Doing the same thing over and over is just insane!

    Im with you there.

    I think we should go all defense and O line and just smear the field with our opponents. Then get a functional QB like Dilfer. Well only need 3 pts a week to win anyway.

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