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  • What we needed in hindsight was to replace Modell with Odell lol

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @baconhound said:

    I'd have been ok with Watkins or Evans at 4, didn't get Gilbert at 8 and still don't. I've been told that corner is a difficult position to pick up in the NFL, funny quarterback isn't as tough, since we are starting Manziel and odd Fuller has adjusted pretty well for the Bears.

    what's to understand? the most important position on the defense now because of the 'pass-happy' league has to be someone that covers the wrs correct?

    @miktoxic said:

    what's to understand? the most important position on the defense now because of the 'pass-happy' league has to be someone that covers the wrs correct?

    DB isn't nearly as complicated as QB and all 3 first round picks are playing significant minutes. They just aren't willing to admit that Gilbert isn't playing at the level he should be, for goodness sake (Christmas Pun) they seem higher on Desir.

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  • What happened to the 8th load?

  • B BaconHound

    @miktoxic said:

    what's to understand? the most important position on the defense now because of the 'pass-happy' league has to be someone that covers the wrs correct?

    DB isn't nearly as complicated as QB and all 3 first round picks are playing significant minutes. They just aren't willing to admit that Gilbert isn't playing at the level he should be, for goodness sake (Christmas Pun) they seem higher on Desir.

    @baconhound said:

    DB isn't nearly as complicated as QB and all 3 first round picks are playing significant minutes. They just aren't willing to admit that Gilbert isn't playing at the level he should be, for goodness sake (Christmas Pun) they seem higher on Desir.

    agree to disagree then. gilbert is as green as JF but i think it was the best pick when trading down.

    you really think farmer thought that q'shoe and desir were better players when pulling the draft card?

    and why QB? when the rest of the team isn't built yet? seattle drafted a QB when they didn't have their team built from side to side?

    tell me what position seattle didn't have set before drafting qb...and then tell me why we should have drafted manziel?

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @tour2ma said:

    Mike.

    Sure he pushes off.. a lot, but he also makes adjustments to the ball that a very athletic. He has a lot more game than I gave him credit for having.

    after watching the pre-draft highlights of both evans and manziel a lot of those manziel 'big plays' were just tossing the ball up to evans who is basically a redwood receiver amongst some some apple tree dbs.

    @miktoxic said:

    after watching the pre-draft highlights of both evans and manziel a lot of those manziel 'big plays' were just tossing the ball up to evans who is basically a redwood receiver amongst some some apple tree dbs.

    No no no. Its been proven by our resident john boys that those chuck ups only happens twice in their careers. Everything else was pure skill and athleticism.

    I wanted Evans, not manziel, jump ball receivers are a hot commodity in today's flag haply NFL. I didn't want clowney, haynesworth pt 2 (well, Haynesworth was actually good in the NFL before he decided to be a lazy ass).

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @miktoxic said:

    exactly.

    walter forgets from week to week who he likes and who he doesn't.

    hates pettine and the FO one week, loves them the next.

    That being said, I've always been a Busta fan.... Even when he was the most penalized player in the NFL lol

    @mld-woody said:

    That being said, I've always been a Busta fan.... Even when he was the most penalized player in the NFL lol

    I hated Skrine last year. He either got burned or flagged on a regular bases. between him and weeden I lost my voice a couple of times.

  • Skrine is a really scrappy player....I like him

    I do remember considering him a weakness, but he was better last year than the year before.....and a LOT better this year.....

    So, for me, the best part is he's obviously a student of the game and someone who's working hard to get better....Im sure he'll have a solid career and be a good player.

    With Williams, Gilbert AND Desir waiting in the wings, we should be strong at CB for a long time!!!! 🙂

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    @bbedward said:

    They're both good, Beckham is having the best rookie year out of the class though IMO.

    But again, CBs are more valuable if Gilbert can turn into a stud.

    Manziel, well...it's something.

    Here's my problem with drafting Gilbert,

    CB, to me, was never a huge priority with Haden and Skrine already here. We need a nickel guy and found one in K'Waun Williams and decent depth. Fuck, we even got Desir in the 4th.

    It's easy to play Monday Morning draft GM because EVERYONE thought Clowney was the 2nd coming of JJ Watt.

    Everyone thought Greg Robinson would be a fucking star and he's struggled big time.

    The owners/coaches/Farmer KNEW Gordon would be suspended and still said "fuck drafting a WR". That to me was a little arrogant without having a true #1 WR and we did manage to get to 7-4 without a true #1 but with Gordon's contract coming up and his uncertain future, we just didn't know.

    I won't lie and I'll admit I wanted Manziel but the second I found out Gordon was going to be suspended I just wished we would have taken Watkins.

    I just didn't see the need for a CB when you have the 4th pick in the draft.

    @walterwhite said:

    It's easy to play Monday Morning draft GM because EVERYONE thought Clowney was the 2nd coming of JJ Watt.

    Everyone thought Greg Robinson would be a fucking star and he's struggled big time.

    The problem with using the universal "everyone" is that it is rarely, if ever, true.

    Going O-fer-two, as WW did here, is not a good foundation for any argument that follows.

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  • No way EVERYONE thought Clowney would be good.......I was screaming to stay away from him......and there were MANY others too.....many many many.....

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @baconhound said:

    DB isn't nearly as complicated as QB and all 3 first round picks are playing significant minutes. They just aren't willing to admit that Gilbert isn't playing at the level he should be, for goodness sake (Christmas Pun) they seem higher on Desir.

    agree to disagree then. gilbert is as green as JF but i think it was the best pick when trading down.

    you really think farmer thought that q'shoe and desir were better players when pulling the draft card?

    and why QB? when the rest of the team isn't built yet? seattle drafted a QB when they didn't have their team built from side to side?

    tell me what position seattle didn't have set before drafting qb...and then tell me why we should have drafted manziel?

    @miktoxic said:

    agree to disagree then. gilbert is as green as JF but i think it was the best pick when trading down.

    you really think farmer thought that q'shoe and desir were better players when pulling the draft card?

    and why QB? when the rest of the team isn't built yet? seattle drafted a QB when they didn't have their team built from side to side?

    tell me what position seattle didn't have set before drafting qb...and then tell me why we should have drafted manziel?

    I wouldn't have drafted Manziel, probably would have stayed put and taken a WR and rode Hoyer til the end of this year and then looked at QB in 2015 either in FA or stay with Hoyer one more year and draft a guy.

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  • and sammy watkins everybody.....YAYA!!

    derek carr in the 2nd looks like a better pick now.........

    shoulda woulda coulda

  • B BaconHound

    @miktoxic said:

    agree to disagree then. gilbert is as green as JF but i think it was the best pick when trading down.

    you really think farmer thought that q'shoe and desir were better players when pulling the draft card?

    and why QB? when the rest of the team isn't built yet? seattle drafted a QB when they didn't have their team built from side to side?

    tell me what position seattle didn't have set before drafting qb...and then tell me why we should have drafted manziel?

    I wouldn't have drafted Manziel, probably would have stayed put and taken a WR and rode Hoyer til the end of this year and then looked at QB in 2015 either in FA or stay with Hoyer one more year and draft a guy.

    @baconhound said:

    I wouldn't have drafted Manziel, probably would have stayed put and taken a WR and rode Hoyer til the end of this year and then looked at QB in 2015 either in FA or stay with Hoyer one more year and draft a guy.

    +1

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • 149.....a black lab hound mix?

  • The Bucanners took Evans at number 5. And this is not hindsight. I tracked the draft for six weeks and the majority said Evans at 4 and Carr at 26. Not even close but then this is the Browns org.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
    MudflyM 1 Reply

  • uh, no.

    can you get your facts straight....ever?

  • Mark OM Mark O

    @opal312 said:

    But all the draft experts and pundits, writers and sports analysts thought Mike Evans was going to the Browns? So did I.

    I don't think anyone had him going to the Browns at #4 overall.

    @mark-o said:

    I don't think anyone had him going to the Browns at #4 overall.

    MikToxic was the only person I know wanting him at 4.

    He was right.

    👍
  • Opal312O Opal312

    The Bucanners took Evans at number 5. And this is not hindsight. I tracked the draft for six weeks and the majority said Evans at 4 and Carr at 26. Not even close but then this is the Browns org.

    @opal312 said:

    The Bucanners took Evans at number 5. And this is not hindsight. I tracked the draft for six weeks and the majority said Evans at 4 and Carr at 26. Not even close but then this is the Browns org.

    Watkins was the slam dunk #1 coming into the draft, then everyone else. Evans was with everyone else and one that was debated along with Beckham, Bejamin, Woods, etc, as to who was best. There was no consensus on these guys. Personally, I liked Benjamin and Evans simply because they were the taller ones.

    And Evans was picked #7. K-Mack was #5.

  • I'm glad the Bucs drafted Evans. He's the lone bright spot on this gawd awful team.. Well, he and Lavonte David..

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