O-line Grades: Week 14 IND and Week 15 CIN

Mudfly

I've been waiting for this......as always, great job!

.....and thanks!

Noted the 3.5 seconds on JFF holding the ball and this week heard he held it an average of 3.6 seconds, compared to Hoyers 2.5 seconds.....a big difference....He did say he had the read, but didn't trust it...soooo, this week I am expecting some quicker decisions from him....

And nice to see Seymore grading better at Cinnci than Indy....improvement is all we can ask at this point....

Thomas is catching a little flak too lately, but after 8 yrs, you gotta expect he's gonna look human eventually.....I would expect him to decline some on the backside of his career, though the good news is that his game(in decline) is probably still better than 90% of the other tackles out there...

Tour2ma

Your welcome, Mud...

Likely an impossible dream, but hoping to keep this on the O-line. Only mentioned the QB because it impacted their perception.

Mudfly

Yep....sorry about that....lord knows we dont need another QB thread.....

Seymore is the best news in the group.....maybe he can develop and stay on through next year so we actually have a backup in waiting.....he is a natural guard, right?....so he would fill the "multiple position" cup that Pettine prefers to drink from....correct?

Opal312

I asked about Seymour and some of you said he was crap.

Mudfly

@opal312 said:
I asked about Seymour and some of you said he was crap.

because he's played like crap so far....this is the first week he's had a positive and it's just +1....

Our comments above just indicate we see improvement(which is good, right)....but we've yet to see any consisent quality play.....

Tour2ma

@mudfly said:
he is a natural guard, right?....so he would fill the "multiple position" cup that Pettine prefers to drink from....correct?

Seymore was listed as OG/C in his NE time... was OG/OT in his college days.

Seymore looks like a better candidate for inside to my eye than McDonald did just based upon body type. Maybe the numbers are starting to bear that out, but both need to get stronger.

Mudfly

@tour2ma said:

Seymore was listed as OG/C in his NE time... was OG/OT in his college days.

Seymore looks like a better candidate for inside to my eye than McDonald did just based upon body type. Maybe the numbers are starting to bear that out, but both need to get stronger.

Well et's hope this weeks performance brings more +'s......always looking for a win, but will be watching the individual performances more closely these next 2 weeks, with an eye toward the future....

Tour2ma

Yup... Folks are playing for jobs now.

OldBrownsFan

Interesting stats thanks for posting. Glad to see Ryan Seymore looks to be improving.

RoyceRolls

love these posts, are you keeping tally for a full season overview?

Tour2ma

@roycerolls said:
love these posts, are you keeping tally for a full season overview?

Keeping? No... I did do a first four summary, but nothing since.

It's a long off season...

Ibleedbrown

Hopefully all the action Seymour and McDonald have gotten will pay dividends in the future. Pretty evident we need to develop depth.

I still don't know about the Schwartz, could see an upgrade there, but l don't think we'll get it with a rookie.

Any free agent Oline guys going to be out there in the offseason worth having?

Tour2ma

Always some good UFA candidates at every O-line slot... matter of what you are willing to pay.

http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/

When it comes to RT for us... I have every confidence that Bito could upgrade it. So shopping for an OG is an option.

Zombo

On what I thought was the key play of the game, when Kawan? Short sacked Hoyer to make it 3rd-and 21 on our last drive ... I thought I saw McDonald in there doing his best "ole" impression. Did he replace Seymour again at some point, or was someone injured?

Zombo

bbedward

Zombo said:

On what I thought was the key play of the game, when Kawan? Short sacked Hoyer to make it 3rd-and 21 on our last drive ... I thought I saw McDonald in there doing his best "ole" impression. Did he replace Seymour again at some point, or was someone injured?

Zombo

I think it was Bitonio's fault mostly. Maybe some blame on McD who I think was the center at the time.

Tour2ma

Zombo said:
On what I thought was the key play of the game, when Kawan? Short sacked Hoyer to make it 3rd-and 21 on our last drive ... I thought I saw McDonald in there doing his best "ole" impression. Did he replace Seymour again at some point, or was someone injured?

Seymore started and was injured. McD took his place.

On the play... I put the bigger fail on Bito. He'll likely get a D-, but McD is not blameless.

The CAR DT named Short was being doubled by McD and Bito; Bito left it to "help" Thomas, who needed none. Not the first time I've seen Bito do that. Greco has done it as well, but at least with Greco it is sometimes necessary to help Schwartz.