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  • T TexasAg1969

    @hoorta said:

    Let's add in Manziel did everything in his power to feed the monster he (helped) create. Crap, I'm not throwing him under the bus- yet. However it sure seems like everything that was pointed out pre draft- gimmicky offense, injury risk, can't read a defense- is coming true.

    Well, we can't pan him off on Jerrah anymore, because his trade value is now zero.

    I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.

    And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done. 😛

    @texasag1969 said:

    And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done. 😛

    Even Weeden looks better. That says it all.

  • J J0hnnybg00d

    and fuck you Texas

    @j0hnnybg00d said:

    and fuck you Texas

    "And fuck you Lone Star beer"-now them's fightin' words. HA! 😁

    PS-I don't drive off or give up that easy. You jackasses are stuck with me. Especially mik. He knows I'd really miss his rants if I left.

    👍
  • WinstonLegthighW WinstonLegthigh

    Cousins? God no

    @winstonlegthigh said:

    Cousins? God no

    maybe a second cousin. if she's cute. and im drunk.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @hoorta said:

    Let's add in Manziel did everything in his power to feed the monster he (helped) create. Crap, I'm not throwing him under the bus- yet. However it sure seems like everything that was pointed out pre draft- gimmicky offense, injury risk, can't read a defense- is coming true.

    Well, we can't pan him off on Jerrah anymore, because his trade value is now zero.

    I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.

    And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done. 😛

    @texasag1969 said:

    I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.

    And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done. 😛

    Yup... that Wheezy sure knows how to protect a 35 point lead.

    Got Jerrah down for a 3rd... Tell him, thanks and we'll get back to him as soon as we talk to Chip Kelly.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • the Browns can never just get it right with a freaking QB. every year is the same? more like every decade since 1999 is the same.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @texasag1969 said:

    I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.

    And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done. 😛

    Yup... that Wheezy sure knows how to protect a 35 point lead.

    Got Jerrah down for a 3rd... Tell him, thanks and we'll get back to him as soon as we talk to Chip Kelly.

    @tour2ma said:

    Got Jerrah down for a 3rd... Tell him, thanks and we'll get back to him as soon as we talk to Chip Kelly.

    I had actually thought of that too Tour, especially since JF had originally committed to him at Oregon before A&M finally offered. You may be on to something. Maybe get a bidding war started. 😁

    Tour2maT hoortaH 2 Replies

  • In the meantime........Teddy Twatwater is progressing very nicely. They gave Miami a good game today. Minnesota just needs a few more pieces to start really competing. Derek Carr is getting his rookie feet nice and wet for next year, albeit Oakland will still suck. We could have had either one. Maybe they should just throw Manziel to the wolves next year and let it play out. Get some team around him and build a defense. And draft a quarterback in the third round because Hoyer will be gone.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
    miktoxicM 1 Reply
  • T TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    Got Jerrah down for a 3rd... Tell him, thanks and we'll get back to him as soon as we talk to Chip Kelly.

    I had actually thought of that too Tour, especially since JF had originally committed to him at Oregon before A&M finally offered. You may be on to something. Maybe get a bidding war started. 😁

    @texasag1969 said:

    I had actually thought of that too Tour, especially since JF had originally committed to him at Oregon before A&M finally offered. You may be on to something. Maybe get a bidding war started. 😁

    Man... talk about a Texas dilemma! Johnny as an Eagle warring against the Cowboys? Shrinks'd be flocking to Texas.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • T TexasAg1969

    @hoorta said:

    Let's add in Manziel did everything in his power to feed the monster he (helped) create. Crap, I'm not throwing him under the bus- yet. However it sure seems like everything that was pointed out pre draft- gimmicky offense, injury risk, can't read a defense- is coming true.

    Well, we can't pan him off on Jerrah anymore, because his trade value is now zero.

    I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.

    And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done. 😛

    @texasag1969 said:

    I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.

    And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done. 😛

    Dallas has the best O line in football. Weeen's sister could have thrown that td. Our O line can't even set up the running game. We suck and you can't blame it on one guy. They suck collectively! And the front office is responsible! Undrafted free agents my ass!
    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • Opal312O Opal312

    In the meantime........Teddy Twatwater is progressing very nicely. They gave Miami a good game today. Minnesota just needs a few more pieces to start really competing. Derek Carr is getting his rookie feet nice and wet for next year, albeit Oakland will still suck. We could have had either one. Maybe they should just throw Manziel to the wolves next year and let it play out. Get some team around him and build a defense. And draft a quarterback in the third round because Hoyer will be gone.

    @opal312 said:

    In the meantime........Teddy Twatwater is progressing very nicely. They gave Miami a good game today. Minnesota just needs a few more pieces to start really competing. Derek Carr is getting his rookie feet nice and wet for next year, albeit Oakland will still suck. We could have had either one. Maybe they should just throw Manziel to the wolves next year and let it play out. Get some team around him and build a defense. And draft a quarterback in the third round because Hoyer will be gone.

    aarff,

    you are a woman correct? or a girl?

    you're not going to get those boots you wanted from your husband for xmas cuz he thinks you're already cheating on him, so get that out your head.

    teddy tko bridgegap, sammy watkins and mike evans all contributed greatly to what their team did today and it all resulted in one big fat fucking goose egg.

    now break out your double dong and go fuck yourself...both ways at the same time.hon.

    need some lube?

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  • dirty dog.

    i betcha you'd fuck a snake if someone held it's head.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    Got Jerrah down for a 3rd... Tell him, thanks and we'll get back to him as soon as we talk to Chip Kelly.

    I had actually thought of that too Tour, especially since JF had originally committed to him at Oregon before A&M finally offered. You may be on to something. Maybe get a bidding war started. 😁

    @texasag1969 said:

    I had actually thought of that too Tour, especially since JF had originally committed to him at Oregon before A&M finally offered. You may be on to something. Maybe get a bidding war started. 😁

    It starts at 7th round, and goes up from there. 🙂 Ag we love ya- stick around- even if Johnny doesn't.

    Like the Swallows returning to Capistrano, even Lumburgh- Derek Anderson's #1 fan has made a re appearance after many, many years.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @opal312 said:

    In the meantime........Teddy Twatwater is progressing very nicely. They gave Miami a good game today. Minnesota just needs a few more pieces to start really competing. Derek Carr is getting his rookie feet nice and wet for next year, albeit Oakland will still suck. We could have had either one. Maybe they should just throw Manziel to the wolves next year and let it play out. Get some team around him and build a defense. And draft a quarterback in the third round because Hoyer will be gone.

    aarff,

    you are a woman correct? or a girl?

    you're not going to get those boots you wanted from your husband for xmas cuz he thinks you're already cheating on him, so get that out your head.

    teddy tko bridgegap, sammy watkins and mike evans all contributed greatly to what their team did today and it all resulted in one big fat fucking goose egg.

    now break out your double dong and go fuck yourself...both ways at the same time.hon.

    need some lube?

    @miktoxic said:

    aarff,

    you are a woman correct? or a girl?

    you're not going to get those boots you wanted from your husband for xmas cuz he thinks you're already cheating on him, so get that out your head.

    teddy tko bridgegap, sammy watkins and mike evans all contributed greatly to what their team did today and it all resulted in one big fat fucking goose egg.

    now break out your double dong and go fuck yourself...both ways at the same time.hon.

    need some lube?

    lol, classic! My, how the booze talks.

  • yummy hudson river water at this point.

  • nickersN nickers

    Well.. I know it it's only 1 game and another half of football played by Johnny.. But based on what I've seen. I just don't see this little shit (JM) getting any better than he already is. Hey looks way worse than Spergon Wynn,Charlie McFry and Colt McCoy. I think Johnny Cacca is a pussy. He proved it by putting that towel over his head on the side lines,after he "got hurt". Wich I'm really starting to doubt this little assholes character.

    Once again, We saw Hoyer trot out onto the field and outplayed him. JM just proved he is no competition for Brian Hoyer. Secondly.. Jimmy Haslam needs to relinquish his ownership and sell it to a Clevelander, that actually understands Cleveland football. or else the viscious cycle will continue..He sucks, He looks lost,derailed and confused.

    Jimmy and Johnny.. please get the fuck out of Cleveland. You both are an embarrassment To Cleveland fans

    @nickers said:

    Well.. I know it it's only 1 game and another half of football played by Johnny.. But based on what I've seen. I just don't see this little shit (JM) getting any better than he already is. Hey looks way worse than Spergon Wynn,Charlie McFry and Colt McCoy. I think Johnny Cacca is a pussy. He proved it by putting that towel over his head on the side lines,after he "got hurt". Wich I'm really starting to doubt this little assholes character.

    Once again, We saw Hoyer trot out onto the field and outplayed him. JM just proved he is no competition for Brian Hoyer. Secondly.. Jimmy Haslam needs to relinquish his ownership and sell it to a Clevelander, that actually understands Cleveland football. or else the viscious cycle will continue..He sucks, He looks lost,derailed and confused.

    Jimmy and Johnny.. please get the fuck out of Cleveland. You both are an embarrassment To Cleveland fans

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  • nickersN nickers

    Well.. I know it it's only 1 game and another half of football played by Johnny.. But based on what I've seen. I just don't see this little shit (JM) getting any better than he already is. Hey looks way worse than Spergon Wynn,Charlie McFry and Colt McCoy. I think Johnny Cacca is a pussy. He proved it by putting that towel over his head on the side lines,after he "got hurt". Wich I'm really starting to doubt this little assholes character.

    Once again, We saw Hoyer trot out onto the field and outplayed him. JM just proved he is no competition for Brian Hoyer. Secondly.. Jimmy Haslam needs to relinquish his ownership and sell it to a Clevelander, that actually understands Cleveland football. or else the viscious cycle will continue..He sucks, He looks lost,derailed and confused.

    Jimmy and Johnny.. please get the fuck out of Cleveland. You both are an embarrassment To Cleveland fans

    @nickers said:

    Well.. I know it it's only 1 game and another half of football played by Johnny.. But based on what I've seen. I just don't see this little shit (JM) getting any better than he already is. Hey looks way worse than Spergon Wynn,Charlie McFry and Colt McCoy. I think Johnny Cacca is a pussy. He proved it by putting that towel over his head on the side lines,after he "got hurt". Wich I'm really starting to doubt this little assholes character.

    Once again, We saw Hoyer trot out onto the field and outplayed him. JM just proved he is no competition for Brian Hoyer. Secondly.. Jimmy Haslam needs to relinquish his ownership and sell it to a Clevelander, that actually understands Cleveland football. or else the viscious cycle will continue..He sucks, He looks lost,derailed and confused.

    Jimmy and Johnny.. please get the fuck out of Cleveland. You both are an embarrassment To Cleveland fans

    Jimmy Haslam is the reason we have Pettine and Farmer and Lombardi and Banner are gone. The only problem here is the people who expect a 180 degree turnaround in a single season and call for people's heads when they don't get. Let's face it, this is going to be a 7-9 season. Going from 4-12 to 7-9 is going in the right direction, yet you geniuses want to stop the car and kick out the driver because he isn't moving fast enough in the right direction. The only thing that will get you is lost, again. Aren't you tired of 15 years of being lost?

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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  • W Westside Steve

    @lbc-mike said:

    Steve you talking about manziel?

    No, I think Johnny has a long way to go before I make a decision. I'm talking about Brian.

    But both guys will need a good team around them to succeed it's just that I think Johnny might possibly eventually someday etc etc to be an elite quarterback. And he might not. I don't think brian has that upside unfortunately.

    But he's OK and probably could continue to be ok.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    No, I think Johnny has a long way to go before I make a decision. I'm talking about Brian.

    But both guys will need a good team around them to succeed it's just that I think Johnny might possibly eventually someday etc etc to be an elite quarterback. And he might not. I don't think brian has that upside unfortunately.

    But he's OK and probably could continue to be ok.

    WSS

    Just curious....what plays or characteristics have you seen from Manziel that would make you think he could be an elite qb?....other than maybe backyard pick up games?

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  • F Frenchie

    I wouldn't put it past this regime to blow up the QB position. They seem to have no tolerance for losing. Haslam might say let's cut our losses now and see what we can do. Trade JF and wish Hoyer luck n FA.

    For next year, I like Shaw, and maybe we pick up Cousins. If we trade JF, we will need to draft a QB. Add four to six new starting players with the draft/FA and I think this team has a realistic shot at the playoffs next year.

    @frenchie said:

    I wouldn't put it past this regime to blow up the QB position.

    what other option is there?

  • I personally have seen enough of Johnny Manziel and want to see this team at least end up 8-8 and go out with a win over the Ravens. I hope they start Hoyer and play hard to win this game. I wish no ill will towards Manziel but he needs to go to another team and play back up quarterback and try and master his craft and try again as a starter sometime in the future. He is a distraction this team does not need and I hate to even think about going through this again with him next year.

  • Right after the game was over yesterday, I was in 100% agreement about Johnny. Not Jimmy though. He's a vast improvement over Lerner Jr and has done right so far.

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