Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Let's add in Manziel did everything in his power to feed the monster he (helped) create. Crap, I'm not throwing him under the bus- yet. However it sure seems like everything that was pointed out pre draft- gimmicky offense, injury risk, can't read a defense- is coming true.
Well, we can't pan him off on Jerrah anymore, because his trade value is now zero.
I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.
And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done.
I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.
And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done.
Yup... that Wheezy sure knows how to protect a 35 point lead.
Got Jerrah down for a 3rd... Tell him, thanks and we'll get back to him as soon as we talk to Chip Kelly.
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the Browns can never just get it right with a freaking QB. every year is the same? more like every decade since 1999 is the same.
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I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.
And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done.
Yup... that Wheezy sure knows how to protect a 35 point lead.
Got Jerrah down for a 3rd... Tell him, thanks and we'll get back to him as soon as we talk to Chip Kelly.
Got Jerrah down for a 3rd... Tell him, thanks and we'll get back to him as soon as we talk to Chip Kelly.
I had actually thought of that too Tour, especially since JF had originally committed to him at Oregon before A&M finally offered. You may be on to something. Maybe get a bidding war started.
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In the meantime........Teddy Twatwater is progressing very nicely. They gave Miami a good game today. Minnesota just needs a few more pieces to start really competing. Derek Carr is getting his rookie feet nice and wet for next year, albeit Oakland will still suck. We could have had either one. Maybe they should just throw Manziel to the wolves next year and let it play out. Get some team around him and build a defense. And draft a quarterback in the third round because Hoyer will be gone.
DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD! -
Got Jerrah down for a 3rd... Tell him, thanks and we'll get back to him as soon as we talk to Chip Kelly.
I had actually thought of that too Tour, especially since JF had originally committed to him at Oregon before A&M finally offered. You may be on to something. Maybe get a bidding war started.
I had actually thought of that too Tour, especially since JF had originally committed to him at Oregon before A&M finally offered. You may be on to something. Maybe get a bidding war started.
Man... talk about a Texas dilemma! Johnny as an Eagle warring against the Cowboys? Shrinks'd be flocking to Texas.
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Let's add in Manziel did everything in his power to feed the monster he (helped) create. Crap, I'm not throwing him under the bus- yet. However it sure seems like everything that was pointed out pre draft- gimmicky offense, injury risk, can't read a defense- is coming true.
Well, we can't pan him off on Jerrah anymore, because his trade value is now zero.
I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.
And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done.
Dallas has the best O line in football. Weeen's sister could have thrown that td. Our O line can't even set up the running game. We suck and you can't blame it on one guy. They suck collectively! And the front office is responsible! Undrafted free agents my ass!I disagree. I bet Jerrah would give you a 3rd rounder and feel like he made a steal. He likes a good gamble and is not shy of the media for sure. If the Browns really don't want him, that's their best bet and likely best offer.
And guess who had a 47 yd TD against the Colts today. Yep, that Browns castoff Wee-done.
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In the meantime........Teddy Twatwater is progressing very nicely. They gave Miami a good game today. Minnesota just needs a few more pieces to start really competing. Derek Carr is getting his rookie feet nice and wet for next year, albeit Oakland will still suck. We could have had either one. Maybe they should just throw Manziel to the wolves next year and let it play out. Get some team around him and build a defense. And draft a quarterback in the third round because Hoyer will be gone.
In the meantime........Teddy Twatwater is progressing very nicely. They gave Miami a good game today. Minnesota just needs a few more pieces to start really competing. Derek Carr is getting his rookie feet nice and wet for next year, albeit Oakland will still suck. We could have had either one. Maybe they should just throw Manziel to the wolves next year and let it play out. Get some team around him and build a defense. And draft a quarterback in the third round because Hoyer will be gone.
aarff,
you are a woman correct? or a girl?
you're not going to get those boots you wanted from your husband for xmas cuz he thinks you're already cheating on him, so get that out your head.
teddy tko bridgegap, sammy watkins and mike evans all contributed greatly to what their team did today and it all resulted in one big fat fucking goose egg.
now break out your double dong and go fuck yourself...both ways at the same time.hon.
need some lube?
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dirty dog.
i betcha you'd fuck a snake if someone held it's head.
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Got Jerrah down for a 3rd... Tell him, thanks and we'll get back to him as soon as we talk to Chip Kelly.
I had actually thought of that too Tour, especially since JF had originally committed to him at Oregon before A&M finally offered. You may be on to something. Maybe get a bidding war started.
I had actually thought of that too Tour, especially since JF had originally committed to him at Oregon before A&M finally offered. You may be on to something. Maybe get a bidding war started.
It starts at 7th round, and goes up from there.
Ag we love ya- stick around- even if Johnny doesn't.Like the Swallows returning to Capistrano, even Lumburgh- Derek Anderson's #1 fan has made a re appearance after many, many years.
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In the meantime........Teddy Twatwater is progressing very nicely. They gave Miami a good game today. Minnesota just needs a few more pieces to start really competing. Derek Carr is getting his rookie feet nice and wet for next year, albeit Oakland will still suck. We could have had either one. Maybe they should just throw Manziel to the wolves next year and let it play out. Get some team around him and build a defense. And draft a quarterback in the third round because Hoyer will be gone.
aarff,
you are a woman correct? or a girl?
you're not going to get those boots you wanted from your husband for xmas cuz he thinks you're already cheating on him, so get that out your head.
teddy tko bridgegap, sammy watkins and mike evans all contributed greatly to what their team did today and it all resulted in one big fat fucking goose egg.
now break out your double dong and go fuck yourself...both ways at the same time.hon.
need some lube?
aarff,
you are a woman correct? or a girl?
you're not going to get those boots you wanted from your husband for xmas cuz he thinks you're already cheating on him, so get that out your head.
teddy tko bridgegap, sammy watkins and mike evans all contributed greatly to what their team did today and it all resulted in one big fat fucking goose egg.
now break out your double dong and go fuck yourself...both ways at the same time.hon.
need some lube?
lol, classic! My, how the booze talks.
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yummy hudson river water at this point.
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Well.. I know it it's only 1 game and another half of football played by Johnny.. But based on what I've seen. I just don't see this little shit (JM) getting any better than he already is. Hey looks way worse than Spergon Wynn,Charlie McFry and Colt McCoy. I think Johnny Cacca is a pussy. He proved it by putting that towel over his head on the side lines,after he "got hurt". Wich I'm really starting to doubt this little assholes character.
Once again, We saw Hoyer trot out onto the field and outplayed him. JM just proved he is no competition for Brian Hoyer. Secondly.. Jimmy Haslam needs to relinquish his ownership and sell it to a Clevelander, that actually understands Cleveland football. or else the viscious cycle will continue..He sucks, He looks lost,derailed and confused.
Jimmy and Johnny.. please get the fuck out of Cleveland. You both are an embarrassment To Cleveland fans
Well.. I know it it's only 1 game and another half of football played by Johnny.. But based on what I've seen. I just don't see this little shit (JM) getting any better than he already is. Hey looks way worse than Spergon Wynn,Charlie McFry and Colt McCoy. I think Johnny Cacca is a pussy. He proved it by putting that towel over his head on the side lines,after he "got hurt". Wich I'm really starting to doubt this little assholes character.
Once again, We saw Hoyer trot out onto the field and outplayed him. JM just proved he is no competition for Brian Hoyer. Secondly.. Jimmy Haslam needs to relinquish his ownership and sell it to a Clevelander, that actually understands Cleveland football. or else the viscious cycle will continue..He sucks, He looks lost,derailed and confused.
Jimmy and Johnny.. please get the fuck out of Cleveland. You both are an embarrassment To Cleveland fans
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Well.. I know it it's only 1 game and another half of football played by Johnny.. But based on what I've seen. I just don't see this little shit (JM) getting any better than he already is. Hey looks way worse than Spergon Wynn,Charlie McFry and Colt McCoy. I think Johnny Cacca is a pussy. He proved it by putting that towel over his head on the side lines,after he "got hurt". Wich I'm really starting to doubt this little assholes character.
Once again, We saw Hoyer trot out onto the field and outplayed him. JM just proved he is no competition for Brian Hoyer. Secondly.. Jimmy Haslam needs to relinquish his ownership and sell it to a Clevelander, that actually understands Cleveland football. or else the viscious cycle will continue..He sucks, He looks lost,derailed and confused.
Jimmy and Johnny.. please get the fuck out of Cleveland. You both are an embarrassment To Cleveland fans
Well.. I know it it's only 1 game and another half of football played by Johnny.. But based on what I've seen. I just don't see this little shit (JM) getting any better than he already is. Hey looks way worse than Spergon Wynn,Charlie McFry and Colt McCoy. I think Johnny Cacca is a pussy. He proved it by putting that towel over his head on the side lines,after he "got hurt". Wich I'm really starting to doubt this little assholes character.
Once again, We saw Hoyer trot out onto the field and outplayed him. JM just proved he is no competition for Brian Hoyer. Secondly.. Jimmy Haslam needs to relinquish his ownership and sell it to a Clevelander, that actually understands Cleveland football. or else the viscious cycle will continue..He sucks, He looks lost,derailed and confused.
Jimmy and Johnny.. please get the fuck out of Cleveland. You both are an embarrassment To Cleveland fans
Jimmy Haslam is the reason we have Pettine and Farmer and Lombardi and Banner are gone. The only problem here is the people who expect a 180 degree turnaround in a single season and call for people's heads when they don't get. Let's face it, this is going to be a 7-9 season. Going from 4-12 to 7-9 is going in the right direction, yet you geniuses want to stop the car and kick out the driver because he isn't moving fast enough in the right direction. The only thing that will get you is lost, again. Aren't you tired of 15 years of being lost?
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
No, I think Johnny has a long way to go before I make a decision. I'm talking about Brian.Steve you talking about manziel?
But both guys will need a good team around them to succeed it's just that I think Johnny might possibly eventually someday etc etc to be an elite quarterback. And he might not. I don't think brian has that upside unfortunately.
But he's OK and probably could continue to be ok.
WSS
No, I think Johnny has a long way to go before I make a decision. I'm talking about Brian.
But both guys will need a good team around them to succeed it's just that I think Johnny might possibly eventually someday etc etc to be an elite quarterback. And he might not. I don't think brian has that upside unfortunately.
But he's OK and probably could continue to be ok.
WSS
Just curious....what plays or characteristics have you seen from Manziel that would make you think he could be an elite qb?....other than maybe backyard pick up games?
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I wouldn't put it past this regime to blow up the QB position. They seem to have no tolerance for losing. Haslam might say let's cut our losses now and see what we can do. Trade JF and wish Hoyer luck n FA.
For next year, I like Shaw, and maybe we pick up Cousins. If we trade JF, we will need to draft a QB. Add four to six new starting players with the draft/FA and I think this team has a realistic shot at the playoffs next year.
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I personally have seen enough of Johnny Manziel and want to see this team at least end up 8-8 and go out with a win over the Ravens. I hope they start Hoyer and play hard to win this game. I wish no ill will towards Manziel but he needs to go to another team and play back up quarterback and try and master his craft and try again as a starter sometime in the future. He is a distraction this team does not need and I hate to even think about going through this again with him next year.
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It's so funny to read people dogging johnny when this play calling has been the worst I have ever seen in my entire life...you have one of the top receivers in the league and a rookie quarterback and you don't throw any wide receiver screens.? Don't pile on johnny we knw he's not ready but our o.c. thinks he's smarter than the league and he's not.
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The best case scenario in my opinion. Hoyer knows he lost the chance at a big contract. He's a Cleveland guy and I believe he wants to stay here. He can be signed for 6 mil + incentives and to me that's a bargain for a known commodity. I really don't care who the back up is , Manziel or Shaw or whoever. If we don't improve our O- line we're going to continue the broken Qb trend going back to 1999. A great offensive line makes a mediocre qb good , a good qb great ,and a great qb elite. And ditto for Rb's. We always seem to put the cart ahead of the horse here. Drafting qbs without something to protect them is like buying a Rolls Royce and parking it on the street. It's gonna get broke! We are just a NT and LB away from a solid run defense which would put us in the top 5 category overall.
If we focus on the O-line the next two years by whatever means we can go buy a fucking QB . Denver did it.
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