John Football Excuses Forum....
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No matter who plays quarterback we need to spend whatever pics we have to make the team stronger which will make the quarterback better. By the way look at the quarterback power ranking I posted. Yes as of his six bad quarters of play Johnny is number 31
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2300180-nfl-quarterback-power-rankings-post-week-15 1
Who wanted Blake Bortles? Come on all you hindsight fans!
*Raises hand*
Bortles pressed into service for an inferior team to us. JM groomed for 14 weeks.
"These rankings factor in several major attributes for the quarterback position. Personal observation and opinion play a key role."
Derp...
*Raises hand*
Bortles pressed into service for an inferior team to us. JM groomed for 14 weeks.
"These rankings factor in several major attributes for the quarterback position. Personal observation and opinion play a key role."
Derp...
Lol
Right
BTW Brian Hoyer was number 28 when he got pulled. After how many seasons of grooming and how many starts in the NFL?
Derp I'm assuming it is some sort of derogatory slang?
WSS
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And as we both freely admit thanks to injuries they are not an inferior team to the Cleveland Browns. In week 4 or 5 they probably were but now I'd say we're near the bottom.
Nobody who is down to bums off the street or the practice squad can hope to be a good team.
WSS
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wanted evans and gilbert and no QB.
then like every year OL and DL. until we win the battle of the LOS why even worry about pretty ornaments?
fucking football fundamentals 101.
and fuck Teddy Twatwater.
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*Raises hand*
Bortles pressed into service for an inferior team to us. JM groomed for 14 weeks.
"These rankings factor in several major attributes for the quarterback position. Personal observation and opinion play a key role."
Derp...
Lol
Right
BTW Brian Hoyer was number 28 when he got pulled. After how many seasons of grooming and how many starts in the NFL?
Derp I'm assuming it is some sort of derogatory slang?
WSS
BTW Brian Hoyer was number 28 when he got pulled. After how many seasons of grooming and how many starts in the NFL?
Derp I'm assuming it is some sort of derogatory slang?
Hmmmmm... 3 slots higher on an arbitrary list... I'll go with 3 more years of grooming. How'd I do?
Derp...
And as we both freely admit thanks to injuries they are not an inferior team to the Cleveland Browns. In week 4 or 5 they probably were but now I'd say we're near the bottom.
I freely admitted what? When? Where?
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Bridgewater didn't want to be here. It would've affected his play and the Browns players around him.
Who knows the real reason why Manziel was chosen, all we have is speculation and bullshit to go on, but he's here and that's that.
Now, what to do after this last game in BLT? If they sign Hoyer, let's strengthen up the team everywhere else needed and roll into next year. Why the hell not, it's worked elsewhere for great teams with OK QBs.
No matter who plays quarterback we need to spend whatever pics we have to make the team stronger which will make the quarterback better. By the way look at the quarterback power ranking I posted. Yes as of his six bad quarters of play Johnny is number 31
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2300180-nfl-quarterback-power-rankings-post-week-15 1
Who wanted Blake Bortles? Come on all you hindsight fans!
WSS
No matter who plays quarterback we need to spend whatever pics we have to make the team stronger which will make the quarterback better. By the way look at the quarterback power ranking I posted. Yes as of his six bad quarters of play Johnny is number 31
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2300180-nfl-quarterback-power-rankings-post-week-15 1
Who wanted Blake Bortles? Come on all you hindsight fans!
WSS
I wanted Blake Bortles. And he'll still be a much better QB than any other of this draft class.
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I think they'll trade one penalty for a very motivated 30-0 smack down of Johnny and the boys every day of the week. And yes, I take it very seriously. If you're gonna be flashing money signs, it might be a good idea to actually have a little bit of talent and stones to back it up.
Look if any of you guys seriously believe the money sign was a bigger motivation than the humiliation they took on their home field I say you're crazy. But the hatred runs so deep there's no point in arguing with you.
WSS
Look if any of you guys seriously believe the money sign was a bigger motivation than the humiliation they took on their home field I say you're crazy. But the hatred runs so deep there's no point in arguing with you.
WSS
I'd say it's more like disgust. I don't know the boy personally, so it'd be unfair to say I hate him. and regardless of what motivated the Bengals, it's a fact that Manziel has absolutely no one to blame but himself for the bad image he already has (earned) and always will have unless he miraculously lights it up next year. But it would take NFL caliber talent to achieve that. And unlike you apparently, I'm not willing to bet my mortgage on that one.
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Look if any of you guys seriously believe the money sign was a bigger motivation than the humiliation they took on their home field I say you're crazy. But the hatred runs so deep there's no point in arguing with you.
WSS
I'd say it's more like disgust. I don't know the boy personally, so it'd be unfair to say I hate him. and regardless of what motivated the Bengals, it's a fact that Manziel has absolutely no one to blame but himself for the bad image he already has (earned) and always will have unless he miraculously lights it up next year. But it would take NFL caliber talent to achieve that. And unlike you apparently, I'm not willing to bet my mortgage on that one.
I'd say it's more like disgust. I don't know the boy personally, so it'd be unfair to say I hate him. and regardless of what motivated the Bengals, it's a fact that Manziel has absolutely no one to blame but himself for the bad image he already has (earned) and always will have unless he miraculously lights it up next year. But it would take NFL caliber talent to achieve that. And unlike you apparently, I'm not willing to bet my mortgage on that one.
How many times did he go out partying this year?
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I'd say it's more like disgust. I don't know the boy personally, so it'd be unfair to say I hate him. and regardless of what motivated the Bengals, it's a fact that Manziel has absolutely no one to blame but himself for the bad image he already has (earned) and always will have unless he miraculously lights it up next year. But it would take NFL caliber talent to achieve that. And unlike you apparently, I'm not willing to bet my mortgage on that one.
How many times did he go out partying this year?
How many times did he go out partying this year?
is there an over/under involved with this question?
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How many times did he go out partying this year?
is there an over/under involved with this question?
is there an over/under involved with this question?
It's a serious question.
Going into this year, the concern was that he would be out partying every night and getting into shenanigans. As we draw to the end of the season, the only "issue" during the season was when some drunk fan approached him in his own hotel/apartment building.
The media tried to overhype Manziel going to a Cavs game or showing up 10 minutes before his 11:00 AM deadline...but those are non-issues. His off-the field problems were like his on-the-field production...nonexistent.
Can we finally put the shit the rest that he's a media-hungry off-the-field concern shitty locker room cancer?
He fucking partied in college...he just did it better than any of you. Don't get butthurt over that. Get butthurt that he can't read a defense, he is paranoid in the pocket, he scrambles rather than stepping up...but not that he partied while in college.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Worst performance by the team since weeds? Absolutely. Hoyer wins that game or even makes it close? Absolutely not. We played like shit all the way around
Worst performance by the team since weeds? Absolutely. Hoyer wins that game or even makes it close? Absolutely not. We played like shit all the way around
We've got seriously the worst fans ever. Myself included. We turn on people so goddamn quickly. I think this game showed Hoyer was far from failing on his own. That being said at least Johnny didn't throw everyone else under the bus at his post game presser.
we should have stayed with hoyer all the way...look, the guy barely has 1 yr experience under his belt...all the injuries.to the team..give me a friggin break, this organization sucks the big dong...now we have no qb...before hoyer goes, i hope he throws for 4 td's this weekend against the ravens as his goodbye present..
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is there an over/under involved with this question?
It's a serious question.
Going into this year, the concern was that he would be out partying every night and getting into shenanigans. As we draw to the end of the season, the only "issue" during the season was when some drunk fan approached him in his own hotel/apartment building.
The media tried to overhype Manziel going to a Cavs game or showing up 10 minutes before his 11:00 AM deadline...but those are non-issues. His off-the field problems were like his on-the-field production...nonexistent.
Can we finally put the shit the rest that he's a media-hungry off-the-field concern shitty locker room cancer?
He fucking partied in college...he just did it better than any of you. Don't get butthurt over that. Get butthurt that he can't read a defense, he is paranoid in the pocket, he scrambles rather than stepping up...but not that he partied while in college.
Can we finally put the shit the rest that he's a media-hungry off-the-field concern shitty locker room cancer?
Can we at least wait until Camp 2015?
And I believe the answer to your query was twice...
- Lobby-gate; and
- during the bye week.
Did I win?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'd say it's more like disgust. I don't know the boy personally, so it'd be unfair to say I hate him. and regardless of what motivated the Bengals, it's a fact that Manziel has absolutely no one to blame but himself for the bad image he already has (earned) and always will have unless he miraculously lights it up next year. But it would take NFL caliber talent to achieve that. And unlike you apparently, I'm not willing to bet my mortgage on that one.
How many times did he go out partying this year?
Who gives a shit? He's admitted to not preparing like the best qbs, i.e. he doesn't want to work to be the best qb there is. Id prefer a guy who wants and has the desire to be the best he can. He's already earned a shitty reputation, gonna take a while to over come that.How many times did he go out partying this year?
But most importantly he sucks ass as an NFL qb. He has almost no desirable skills and has awful instincts.
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is there an over/under involved with this question?
It's a serious question.
Going into this year, the concern was that he would be out partying every night and getting into shenanigans. As we draw to the end of the season, the only "issue" during the season was when some drunk fan approached him in his own hotel/apartment building.
The media tried to overhype Manziel going to a Cavs game or showing up 10 minutes before his 11:00 AM deadline...but those are non-issues. His off-the field problems were like his on-the-field production...nonexistent.
Can we finally put the shit the rest that he's a media-hungry off-the-field concern shitty locker room cancer?
He fucking partied in college...he just did it better than any of you. Don't get butthurt over that. Get butthurt that he can't read a defense, he is paranoid in the pocket, he scrambles rather than stepping up...but not that he partied while in college.
He fucking partied in college...he just did it better than any of you. Don't get butthurt over that. Get butthurt that he can't read a defense, he is paranoid in the pocket, he scrambles rather than stepping up...but not that he partied while in college.
I don't give a shit if he parties now. He doesn't understand the concept of a pocket and plays scared. I'm not sure any playbook can solve that..
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is there an over/under involved with this question?
It's a serious question.
Going into this year, the concern was that he would be out partying every night and getting into shenanigans. As we draw to the end of the season, the only "issue" during the season was when some drunk fan approached him in his own hotel/apartment building.
The media tried to overhype Manziel going to a Cavs game or showing up 10 minutes before his 11:00 AM deadline...but those are non-issues. His off-the field problems were like his on-the-field production...nonexistent.
Can we finally put the shit the rest that he's a media-hungry off-the-field concern shitty locker room cancer?
He fucking partied in college...he just did it better than any of you. Don't get butthurt over that. Get butthurt that he can't read a defense, he is paranoid in the pocket, he scrambles rather than stepping up...but not that he partied while in college.
He fucking partied in college...he just did it better than any of you.
really? if he partied and backed up his game with some semblance of a nfl qb looking drive here or there and maybe a win no one would give a shit....and i still don't. he built his own machine and now he's fallen under it and it's running over him.
you liked bortles. great. i agreed thinking the only one that might be better was david carr (along with PoG).
manziel a locker room cancer? no. manziel a nfl bullshitter? hell yeah.
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BTW Brian Hoyer was number 28 when he got pulled. After how many seasons of grooming and how many starts in the NFL?
Derp I'm assuming it is some sort of derogatory slang?
Hmmmmm... 3 slots higher on an arbitrary list... I'll go with 3 more years of grooming. How'd I do?
Derp...
And as we both freely admit thanks to injuries they are not an inferior team to the Cleveland Browns. In week 4 or 5 they probably were but now I'd say we're near the bottom.
I freely admitted what? When? Where?
Hmmmmm... 3 slots higher on an arbitrary list... I'll go with 3 more years of grooming. How'd I do?
Derp...
I freely admitted what? When? Where?
Ok I apologize. So I'm the only one on this whole board that thinks injurious took a toll on the team and made it harder for the quarterback, whoever the fuck he was, to shine. I stand corrected.
WSS
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Hmmmmm... 3 slots higher on an arbitrary list... I'll go with 3 more years of grooming. How'd I do?
Derp...
I freely admitted what? When? Where?
Ok I apologize. So I'm the only one on this whole board that thinks injurious took a toll on the team and made it harder for the quarterback, whoever the fuck he was, to shine. I stand corrected.
WSS
I'm the only one on this whole board that thinks injurious took a toll on the team and made it harder for the quarterback, whoever the fuck he was
WSS
not the only one at all.
you are now preaching to this choir.
no OL, no running game=opposing defenses rush 3-4 guys and stuff our offense like a turducken.
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Can we finally put the shit the rest that he's a media-hungry off-the-field concern shitty locker room cancer?
Can we at least wait until Camp 2015?
And I believe the answer to your query was twice...
- Lobby-gate; and
- during the bye week.
Did I win?
Can we at least wait until Camp 2015?
And I believe the answer to your query was twice...
- Lobby-gate; and
- during the bye week.
Did I win?
Lobby-gate is about as much of an issue as the almost fistfight I got into at the Panthers game. It was a drunk person running their mouth, that's it.
Maybe I just blocked it out, but I don't remember Manziel doing anything during the bye week except going to the A&M game.
Who gives a shit? He's admitted to not preparing like the best qbs, i.e. he doesn't want to work to be the best qb there is. Id prefer a guy who wants and has the desire to be the best he can. He's already earned a shitty reputation, gonna take a while to over come that.
But most importantly he sucks ass as an NFL qb. He has almost no desirable skills and has awful instincts.
I didn't realize you can infer someone's motivations based off of an admission. When I was 8, I admitted to stealing a Pokemon card from my friend. Should have locked my up then, I didn't want to be a non-stealer.
I don't give a shit if he parties now. He doesn't understand the concept of a pocket and plays scared. I'm not sure any playbook can solve that..
Thank you. That's my point.
If you want to shit talk, shit talk the empirical proof that he didn't help us win games on the field.
really? if he partied and backed up his game with some semblance of a nfl qb looking drive here or there and maybe a win no one would give a shit....and i still don't. he built his own machine and now he's fallen under it and it's running over him.
you liked bortles. great. i agreed thinking the only one that might be better was david carr (along with PoG).
manziel a locker room cancer? no. manziel a nfl bullshitter? hell yeah.
But the point is that he didn't party...and he didn't back up his game. People are STILL complaining about his off-the-field issues, yet there haven't been any. He built no machine. The media built that machine and you fuckers just loved feeding into it. He kept his head down, by all accounts he worked hard in practice and in the film room and he still sucked.
So, talk about how he looks paranoid in the pocket. Talk about how he can't read a defense.Talk about how his skills probably don't transfer to the NFL. But don't talk about how he deserves to look shitty because he didn't prepare and he "built this machine".
You're all the reason MKC still has a job, and that's completely unforgivable.
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I'm the only one on this whole board that thinks injurious took a toll on the team and made it harder for the quarterback, whoever the fuck he was
WSS
not the only one at all.
you are now preaching to this choir.
no OL, no running game=opposing defenses rush 3-4 guys and stuff our offense like a turducken.
the reason for that comment is that I was under the impression that tour and I admitted that and we're on the same page. He seemed incredulous when I said that so...not the only one at all.
you are now preaching to this choir.
no OL, no running game=opposing defenses rush 3-4 guys and stuff our offense like a turducken.
WSS
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Can we at least wait until Camp 2015?
And I believe the answer to your query was twice...
- Lobby-gate; and
- during the bye week.
Did I win?
Lobby-gate is about as much of an issue as the almost fistfight I got into at the Panthers game. It was a drunk person running their mouth, that's it.
Maybe I just blocked it out, but I don't remember Manziel doing anything during the bye week except going to the A&M game.
Who gives a shit? He's admitted to not preparing like the best qbs, i.e. he doesn't want to work to be the best qb there is. Id prefer a guy who wants and has the desire to be the best he can. He's already earned a shitty reputation, gonna take a while to over come that.
But most importantly he sucks ass as an NFL qb. He has almost no desirable skills and has awful instincts.
I didn't realize you can infer someone's motivations based off of an admission. When I was 8, I admitted to stealing a Pokemon card from my friend. Should have locked my up then, I didn't want to be a non-stealer.
I don't give a shit if he parties now. He doesn't understand the concept of a pocket and plays scared. I'm not sure any playbook can solve that..
Thank you. That's my point.
If you want to shit talk, shit talk the empirical proof that he didn't help us win games on the field.
really? if he partied and backed up his game with some semblance of a nfl qb looking drive here or there and maybe a win no one would give a shit....and i still don't. he built his own machine and now he's fallen under it and it's running over him.
you liked bortles. great. i agreed thinking the only one that might be better was david carr (along with PoG).
manziel a locker room cancer? no. manziel a nfl bullshitter? hell yeah.
But the point is that he didn't party...and he didn't back up his game. People are STILL complaining about his off-the-field issues, yet there haven't been any. He built no machine. The media built that machine and you fuckers just loved feeding into it. He kept his head down, by all accounts he worked hard in practice and in the film room and he still sucked.
So, talk about how he looks paranoid in the pocket. Talk about how he can't read a defense.Talk about how his skills probably don't transfer to the NFL. But don't talk about how he deserves to look shitty because he didn't prepare and he "built this machine".
You're all the reason MKC still has a job, and that's completely unforgivable.
If you want to shit talk, shit talk the empirical proof that he didn't help us win games on the field.
But the point is that he didn't party...and he didn't back up his game. People are STILL complaining about his off-the-field issues, yet there haven't been any. He built no machine. The media built that machine and you fuckers just loved feeding into it. He kept his head down, by all accounts he worked hard in practice and in the film room and he still sucked.
So, talk about how he looks paranoid in the pocket. Talk about how he can't read a defense.Talk about how his skills probably don't transfer to the NFL. But don't talk about how he deserves to look shitty because he didn't prepare and he "built this machine".
You're all the reason MKC still has a job, and that's completely unforgivable.
the media twisted his arm during his collegiate career and made him come up with his patented 'money sign'? they twisted his arm to do commercials and magazine covers?
that's the machine he and his agent have built.
yeah that big yellow road grater coming his way......oops!
shoulda been a matador. right size and race.
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