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  • Are we talking about pulling the trigger? Cutting somebody after six quarters? Seems like there is an agenda underway. On the other hand in the same argument you tell me you have seen some greatness, or at least goodness, in brian.

    I haven't seen what I would call flashes of greatness I've seen flashes of good enough to play in the NFL. I've also seen games we've won playing around his limitations. But regardless of the flashes he's been in the league for what 5 or 6 years already?

    Look I understand the attitude, we all just want to shit can people if we don't like them personally and that's the feeling I get around here.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Are we talking about pulling the trigger? Cutting somebody after six quarters? Seems like there is an agenda underway. On the other hand in the same argument you tell me you have seen some greatness, or at least goodness, in brian.

    I haven't seen what I would call flashes of greatness I've seen flashes of good enough to play in the NFL. I've also seen games we've won playing around his limitations. But regardless of the flashes he's been in the league for what 5 or 6 years already?

    Look I understand the attitude, we all just want to shit can people if we don't like them personally and that's the feeling I get around here.

    WSS

    Certainly, I have seen much more positive in Hoyer than Manziel, but I've seen Hoyer for a lot more than 6 quarters. My only agenda is to see the Browns win more than they lose at some point. How we acheive that is not really that important to me. Whether it's with Manziel. Hoyer, Shaw, or you at qb. I don't expect Manziel to be cut after 6 quarters....and I wouldn't hope for that. Starting immediately after this season, though, if we don't hear about Johnny Football dedicating the off season to improving, and studying to become a real NFL qb, well... then I fully expect him to become a casualty of the competition, and lose his job. I don't expect Hoyer to be here, but there will be another draftee or veteran to pressure Manziel. I don't have any personal dislike for the guy. He's 22 years old.....holy crap....when I was 22, I didn't even have a job. No one could tell me anything, because I already knew everything. I had been drafted, and returned, collected checks from the government to go to college, but really spent most of my time hitch hiking to California and back.....many times. So...I don't hate him because he is immature...I wrote the book on how to be immature. But...the nature of his job...if he decides to keep it, will mean a lot of hard work and dedication. If he puts the effort in, maybe he can still be successful. I's a long shot, but if he's our qb, I'm rooting for him.

  • Troll?

    Aww now you hurt my feelings.

    Actually (even though it was a sarcastic, snotty, facetious and possibly even troll like post) I don't think it fell beneath the standards set by the other shit posts in the thread.

    No need to take it personally. 😉

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    No need to take it personally. 😉

    No need at all... it's why I was messin' wit cha... 🙂

  • If the Browns could get ANYTHING for him they have to make the trade asap. Drafting Johnny will go down as one of the worst decisions of all time and the sooner the Browns can move on the better.

    @johnnycollegefootball2 said:

    If the Browns could get ANYTHING for him they have to make the trade asap. Drafting Johnny will go down as one of the worst decisions of all time and the sooner the Browns can move on the better.

    And see, I still don't consider it to be a bad decision. We knew he was going to boom big or bust hard. But I'd rather go with the guy with that high end potential, than safe middle of the road players.

    It looks like Johnny Football is a bust. But that's a fine risk to take.

  • Quit your bitch fighting and talk about the players.

  • @johnnycollegefootball2 said:

    If the Browns could get ANYTHING for him they have to make the trade asap.

    Yea, I'm sure someone in the front office has a car that needs a quart of oil

    @d-bone said:

    Yea, I'm sure someone in the front office has a car that needs a quart of oil

    "Oil Can" Manziel... kinda rolls off of the tongue. And I'm not sure the NFL has ever had an "Oil Can"... MLB has, but NFL?

    Sure hope the above "qualifies" as player talk...

  • Very little game tape + late season injury = judge me next pre-season. Dude bought some time. He's got an off-season to prepare. Step it up, fuckface.

  • That thought flickered through my noggin, also.

  • Very hard to fool a real MD about a hamstring injury. Range of motion to be exactly the same before inducing pain would have to be well practiced by the injured party. JF's history shows he goes back in with injuries (throwing thumb prior to LSU game), knee brace added at halftime against Mo. Plus MRI will verify the injury.

  • I'm kind of partial to Partyman Ziel myself. 😛

  • Texas - do you think if his 6 quarters had gone well, he would have come out of the game? Post-game quotes were all about how he is going to work SO hard this offseason to be prepared for next year.

    Dude pressed reset before the 'Johnny Football' brand received further damage - period.

  • @junkyard-dawg said:

    Wrong. Faggots time is done here and likely the NFL in general.

    It's actually not. "Pulled Muscles" in general are the easiest injuries to fake. It is near impossible to disprove a pull muscle claim without taking a battery of tests including an MRI. A Doctor isn't going to order an MRI during game time over a pulled muscle. Likewise it's going to be up to the player if they return or not. Fruitcake quit, period. Wow, you'll defend Fruitcake no matter what, won't you?

    Why thank you for your medical opinion Dr. Dawg. How's that gynecology practice coming along BTW? You seem pretty good and searching out and diagnosing pussys.

  • DING DING DING! you are a winner, tell em what they have won Johnny.

  • Another wasted topic.

  • Another wasted topic.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Another wasted topic.

    censorship causes riots move on

  • So whats your point dumb ass? Just another stupid topic.

  • What's the prognosis? Is he faking or the coaches keeping him bottled up for a possible trade?

  • Nobody. The fact is even though I'm not a Hoyer fan and I was disappointed on draft day. I don't see us taking a QB until we fill the needs for DT, ILB, WR, I was reading about Eddie Goldman from Florida State and he would be a good pick to stop the run. Jaelen Strong from Arizona St would be a good pick too.

  • What's the prognosis? Is he faking or the coaches keeping him bottled up for a possible trade?

    @opal312 said:

    What's the prognosis? Is he faking or the coaches keeping him bottled up for a possible trade?

    Or he is faking it,like others have said and he's trying to reset THE HYPE. Who knows, but this gives us so much to debate and call each other names over the next 6 months. Let the Conspiracy theories Fly boys...

  • I say its legit since stashing players on IR will cost you

  • So whats your point dumb ass? Just another stupid topic.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    So whats your point dumb ass? Just another stupid topic.

    the point is 10,000 so called fans were predicting when he would land on IR after the draft and I am curious as to who had less than 3, you must have had the over and are a sore LOSER