Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I'm kind of partial to Partyman Ziel myself.
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Texas - do you think if his 6 quarters had gone well, he would have come out of the game? Post-game quotes were all about how he is going to work SO hard this offseason to be prepared for next year.
Dude pressed reset before the 'Johnny Football' brand received further damage - period.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
Wrong. Faggots time is done here and likely the NFL in general.
It's actually not. "Pulled Muscles" in general are the easiest injuries to fake. It is near impossible to disprove a pull muscle claim without taking a battery of tests including an MRI. A Doctor isn't going to order an MRI during game time over a pulled muscle. Likewise it's going to be up to the player if they return or not. Fruitcake quit, period. Wow, you'll defend Fruitcake no matter what, won't you?
Why thank you for your medical opinion Dr. Dawg. How's that gynecology practice coming along BTW? You seem pretty good and searching out and diagnosing pussys.
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DING DING DING! you are a winner, tell em what they have won Johnny.
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Another wasted topic.
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Another wasted topic.
Another wasted topic.
censorship causes riots move on
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So whats your point dumb ass? Just another stupid topic.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Nobody. The fact is even though I'm not a Hoyer fan and I was disappointed on draft day. I don't see us taking a QB until we fill the needs for DT, ILB, WR, I was reading about Eddie Goldman from Florida State and he would be a good pick to stop the run. Jaelen Strong from Arizona St would be a good pick too.
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What's the prognosis? Is he faking or the coaches keeping him bottled up for a possible trade?
What's the prognosis? Is he faking or the coaches keeping him bottled up for a possible trade?
Or he is faking it,like others have said and he's trying to reset THE HYPE. Who knows, but this gives us so much to debate and call each other names over the next 6 months. Let the Conspiracy theories Fly boys...
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I say its legit since stashing players on IR will cost you
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So whats your point dumb ass? Just another stupid topic.
So whats your point dumb ass? Just another stupid topic.
the point is 10,000 so called fans were predicting when he would land on IR after the draft and I am curious as to who had less than 3, you must have had the over and are a sore LOSER
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No, just sick of beating a dead horse. Grow up.
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I just noticed I started my shitty topic with a lower case "I". Fuck. I know miktoxic would be horrified. Not sorry for beating a dead horse since I can't beat the living horse (Elway), that cost this team potential SB's.
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I don't think he faked the injury completely, but I do think he played it for all it was worth. All he could say was it was "tweaked" and cramping. Then he was immediately ruled out for this week but after the hit Hoyer took he is still day to day?
He absolutely is trying to hit the reset button rather than being further embarrassed and damaging his brand. I really wish the ties would be cut on him now. Don't waste another year hoping he does the right things. I've been forgiving of some pretty bad QB's in years past (even though he had the worst debut of any before him) just trying to hang on to some semblance of consistency, but we already took a big boom/bust risk in drafting him. I don't see how he earned another chance to take that risk on him again.
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I don't think he faked the injury completely, but I do think he played it for all it was worth. All he could say was it was "tweaked" and cramping. Then he was immediately ruled out for this week but after the hit Hoyer took he is still day to day?
He absolutely is trying to hit the reset button rather than being further embarrassed and damaging his brand. I really wish the ties would be cut on him now. Don't waste another year hoping he does the right things. I've been forgiving of some pretty bad QB's in years past (even though he had the worst debut of any before him) just trying to hang on to some semblance of consistency, but we already took a big boom/bust risk in drafting him. I don't see how he earned another chance to take that risk on him again.
I don't think he faked the injury completely, but I do think he played it for all it was worth. All he could say was it was "tweaked" and cramping. Then he was immediately ruled out for this week but after the hit Hoyer took he is still day to day?
He absolutely is trying to hit the reset button rather than being further embarrassed and damaging his brand. I really wish the ties would be cut on him now. Don't waste another year hoping he does the right things. I've been forgiving of some pretty bad QB's in years past (even though he had the worst debut of any before him) just trying to hang on to some semblance of consistency, but we already took a big boom/bust risk in drafting him. I don't see how he earned another chance to take that risk on him again.
If Pettine believed that he would request an MRI and if it did not show the injury was real JM would be given his walking papers. No player is that stupid.
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I don't think he faked the injury completely, but I do think he played it for all it was worth. All he could say was it was "tweaked" and cramping. Then he was immediately ruled out for this week but after the hit Hoyer took he is still day to day?
He absolutely is trying to hit the reset button rather than being further embarrassed and damaging his brand. I really wish the ties would be cut on him now. Don't waste another year hoping he does the right things. I've been forgiving of some pretty bad QB's in years past (even though he had the worst debut of any before him) just trying to hang on to some semblance of consistency, but we already took a big boom/bust risk in drafting him. I don't see how he earned another chance to take that risk on him again.
If Pettine believed that he would request an MRI and if it did not show the injury was real JM would be given his walking papers. No player is that stupid.
If Pettine believed that he would request an MRI and if it did not show the injury was real JM would be given his walking papers. No player is that stupid.
I don't think JFF is stupid at all. I think he's as slick as they come. He was aware the three game sample size was being bandied about as enough and knew he wasn't cutting it. What better way to stop the bleeding than get injured and ruled out for the rest of the season? I think Pettine realized he made a mistake naming Johnny the starter and didn't want to put him back in anyway. This way he could pull him as the starter without controversy.
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Very little game tape + late season injury = judge me next pre-season. Dude bought some time. He's got an off-season to prepare. Step it up, fuckface.
Very little game tape + late season injury = judge me next pre-season. Dude bought some time. He's got an off-season to prepare. Step it up, fuckface.
sorry man, i just have a bad feeling about this dude...i just don't think he has the athleticism to be a great qb...he definetly is not a russell wilson type...don't see it at all...not even close....never should have drafted this guy....but of course, these are the cleeeeeevlin browns and it is to be expected..
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Very hard to fool a real MD about a hamstring injury. Range of motion to be exactly the same before inducing pain would have to be well practiced by the injured party. JF's history shows he goes back in with injuries (throwing thumb prior to LSU game), knee brace added at halftime against Mo. Plus MRI will verify the injury.
Very hard to fool a real MD about a hamstring injury. Range of motion to be exactly the same before inducing pain would have to be well practiced by the injured party. JF's history shows he goes back in with injuries (throwing thumb prior to LSU game), knee brace added at halftime against Mo. Plus MRI will verify the injury.
For the record- knowing his competitive nature- I doubt Manziel was faking it.
What's the prognosis? Is he faking or the coaches keeping him bottled up for a possible trade?
See below.
@junkyard-dawg said:
Again, like people keep telling you: HE HAS ZERO TRADE VALUE.
Exactly Unless Farmer has the power to hypnotize people over the phone.
I had to look this up- first start as a Browns qb. 22\54 passing 167 yards, 0 TDs, 1 int. Rating 41.2
10\18 passing 80 yards, 0 TDs, 2 int Rating 27.2
In case you're wondering the first is Spergon Wynn, I think you can guess who the second guy is.
the point is 10,000 so called fans were predicting when he would land on IR after the draft and I am curious as to who had less than 3, you must have had the over and are a sore LOSER
I think the consensus on the over\under was 5 games.
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I don't know if I buy all the competitive, great leader stuff about him anymore. Even though I've never bought all his hype, I did at least believe that about him, but not so much anymore. I believe he will play loose with the ball in a game to make a play because it's his style, but a leader with a competitive nature wouldn't have wasted a season not giving it everything he had to win the starting gig in the first place. I stand by my opinion that he quit in the Carolina game.
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