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  • Spin what? It was a game close to the very end with a rookie QB just elevated from the practice squad last week. Nothing much to spin.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Spin what? It was a game close to the very end with a rookie QB just elevated from the practice squad last week. Nothing much to spin.

    7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse.

    Manziel a joke

    Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time

    Could go on but you watched, I think

  • you are just a low-class ass.

    @miktoxic said:

    you are just a low-class ass.

    Hope you enjoyed today, real fan

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Spin what? It was a game close to the very end with a rookie QB just elevated from the practice squad last week. Nothing much to spin.

    7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse.

    Manziel a joke

    Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time

    Could go on but you watched, I think

    @baconhound said:

    7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse.

    Manziel a joke

    Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time

    Could go on but you watched, I think

    So you're saying that the players shouldn't be held accountable? They should just show up whenever they want? Dont' show up on time, bench their ass.

  • @baconhound said:

    7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse.

    Manziel a joke

    Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time

    Could go on but you watched, I think

    So you're saying that the players shouldn't be held accountable? They should just show up whenever they want? Dont' show up on time, bench their ass.

    @mark-o said:

    So you're saying that the players shouldn't be held accountable? They should just show up whenever they want? Dont' show up on time, bench their ass.

    No they should be benched but what does it say about the control of the organization when your top offensive weapon, supposed QB & DB of the future could care less?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Spin what? It was a game close to the very end with a rookie QB just elevated from the practice squad last week. Nothing much to spin.

    7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse.

    Manziel a joke

    Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time

    Could go on but you watched, I think

    @baconhound said:

    7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse.

    A complete collapse starting rookies, UDFA's and 3rd string players at almost every level of the offense and defense.

    Manziel a joke

    Can't argue there

    Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time

    Players must be held accountable for their actions. This sends a message not only to the player, but the team as well. Don't like it? Tough shit.

    Could go on

    No, you can't.

  • @baconhound said:

    7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse.

    A complete collapse starting rookies, UDFA's and 3rd string players at almost every level of the offense and defense.

    Manziel a joke

    Can't argue there

    Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time

    Players must be held accountable for their actions. This sends a message not only to the player, but the team as well. Don't like it? Tough shit.

    Could go on

    No, you can't.

    @tiamat63 said:

    @baconhound said:

    7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse.

    A complete collapse starting rookies, UDFA's and 3rd string players at almost every level of the offense and defense.

    Manziel a joke

    Can't argue there

    Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time

    Players must be held accountable for their actions. This sends a message not only to the player, but the team as well. Don't like it? Tough shit.

    Could go on

    No, you can't.

    Defense can't stop the run

    Bad special teams

    Lack of size/talent in key offensive positions

    QB controversy without a decent one to be had

    According to everyone on here, not me, horrible OC

  • It's mind boggling. How can your two first round draft picks be more disappointing. Manziel has no integrity, discipline or class. Throwing a party the night before practice. What were they celebrating?

  • Pettine just said he wouldnt talk about the "3" today because it would be disrespectful to the guys wearing the uniform today...

    tough words about those guys...sounds very pissed and indicated they wouldn't let them on the field today

  • @tiamat63 said:

    @baconhound said:

    7-9 playing the weakest schedule in football and when it mattered a complete collapse.

    A complete collapse starting rookies, UDFA's and 3rd string players at almost every level of the offense and defense.

    Manziel a joke

    Can't argue there

    Week 17 benching key players/draft picks cause they don't show up on time

    Players must be held accountable for their actions. This sends a message not only to the player, but the team as well. Don't like it? Tough shit.

    Could go on

    No, you can't.

    Defense can't stop the run

    Bad special teams

    Lack of size/talent in key offensive positions

    QB controversy without a decent one to be had

    According to everyone on here, not me, horrible OC

    @baconhound said:

    Defense can't stop the run

    Until the last couple carries, defense did a fine job against the run today. That's with a guy signed 6 weeks ago and 2 practice squad players.

    Bad special teams

    Great coverage teams, return? Questionable. Not having a reliable body to field them hurts.

    Lack of size/talent in key offensive positions

    Such as? QB? That's about it.

    QB controversy without a decent one to be had

    There was no controversy. Controversy would imply the backup out-performing the starter. Clearly, couldn't be further from the truth.

    According to everyone on here, not me, horrible OC

    Horrible? No... but he makes questionable decisions from time to time.

  • @baconhound said:

    Defense can't stop the run

    Until the last couple carries, defense did a fine job against the run today. That's with a guy signed 6 weeks ago and 2 practice squad players.

    Bad special teams

    Great coverage teams, return? Questionable. Not having a reliable body to field them hurts.

    Lack of size/talent in key offensive positions

    Such as? QB? That's about it.

    QB controversy without a decent one to be had

    There was no controversy. Controversy would imply the backup out-performing the starter. Clearly, couldn't be further from the truth.

    According to everyone on here, not me, horrible OC

    Horrible? No... but he makes questionable decisions from time to time.

    @tiamat63 said:

    @baconhound said:

    Defense can't stop the run

    Until the last couple carries, defense did a fine job against the run today. That's with a guy signed 6 weeks ago and 2 practice squad players.

    Bad special teams

    Great coverage teams, return? Questionable. Not having a reliable body to field them hurts.

    Lack of size/talent in key offensive positions

    Such as? QB? That's about it.

    QB controversy without a decent one to be had

    There was no controversy. Controversy would imply the backup out-performing the starter. Clearly, couldn't be further from the truth.

    According to everyone on here, not me, horrible OC

    Horrible? No... but he makes questionable decisions from time to time.

    You can survive with one Gabriel/Hawkins/Benjamin on the WR crew but not 2 or 3

  • I'm sorry but Bacon Hound is right.

    Haslam gets paid Billions. Farmer millions.

    We are just assholes with opinions that don't fucking matter.They had all the time in the world to evaluate these guys before the draft and interview them, go to their pro day, scout them, etc and this is the best they could do.

    Haslam whiffed on Chip Kelly.

    Haslam whiffed on Chud.

    Haslam whiffed Harbaugh.

    We got Pettine who I like and want to keep and deserves to be the coach here for at least 2 more years.

    That 1st round was a fucking meltdown and Haslam and Farmer are accountable

  • The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation.

  • The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation.

    my guess is that JFF and Gordon go......Gilbert gets another year

  • The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation.

    Like it or not they need the talent Josh Gordon has. I hate to say it cause he's a fuckhead and is one bong hit from the bench but they need talent

  • The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation.

    + 1. They ALL should be let go

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation.

    Like it or not they need the talent Josh Gordon has. I hate to say it cause he's a fuckhead and is one bong hit from the bench but they need talent

    @baconhound said:

    Like it or not they need the talent Josh Gordon has. I hate to say it cause he's a fuckhead and is one bong hit from the bench but they need talent

    Gordon sucks. Fuck his talent. He didn't how me shit.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation.

    Like it or not they need the talent Josh Gordon has. I hate to say it cause he's a fuckhead and is one bong hit from the bench but they need talent

    @baconhound said:

    Like it or not they need the talent Josh Gordon has. I hate to say it cause he's a fuckhead and is one bong hit from the bench but they need talent

    He played 14 games last year and 5 this year, and the Browns record is 5-14 in those games. His talent hasn't helped the team get any better,and his off field crap isn't worth keeping him IMO

  • @mark-o said:

    So you're saying that the players shouldn't be held accountable? They should just show up whenever they want? Dont' show up on time, bench their ass.

    No they should be benched but what does it say about the control of the organization when your top offensive weapon, supposed QB & DB of the future could care less?

    @baconhound said:

    No they should be benched but what does it say about the control of the organization when your top offensive weapon, supposed QB & DB of the future could care less?

    We knew before the season that Gordon doesn't give a shit and I think he'll be gone after the season. Gilbert gets another year and I'd like to see us trade Manziel for whatever we can get.

  • @baconhound said:

    Like it or not they need the talent Josh Gordon has. I hate to say it cause he's a fuckhead and is one bong hit from the bench but they need talent

    Gordon sucks. Fuck his talent. He didn't how me shit.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Gordon sucks. Fuck his talent. He didn't how me shit.

    C'mon Man

    He maybe a fuckup but he's a tall fast fuckup

  • @baconhound said:

    No they should be benched but what does it say about the control of the organization when your top offensive weapon, supposed QB & DB of the future could care less?

    We knew before the season that Gordon doesn't give a shit and I think he'll be gone after the season. Gilbert gets another year and I'd like to see us trade Manziel for whatever we can get.

    @mark-o said:

    We knew before the season that Gordon doesn't give a shit and I think he'll be gone after the season. Gilbert gets another year and I'd like to see us trade Manziel for whatever we can get.

    They will be lucky to get a 6th rounder for Johnny. Every team has seen him suck on the field and they all know what he is off of it.

    He might go down as the worst 1st round pick in Browns history. And that's saying A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!