Haslam/Farmer Post Season Presser
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No they should be benched but what does it say about the control of the organization when your top offensive weapon, supposed QB & DB of the future could care less?
We knew before the season that Gordon doesn't give a shit and I think he'll be gone after the season. Gilbert gets another year and I'd like to see us trade Manziel for whatever we can get.
We knew before the season that Gordon doesn't give a shit and I think he'll be gone after the season. Gilbert gets another year and I'd like to see us trade Manziel for whatever we can get.
They will be lucky to get a 6th rounder for Johnny. Every team has seen him suck on the field and they all know what he is off of it.
He might go down as the worst 1st round pick in Browns history. And that's saying A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
When we lined up Gabriel, Hawkins & Benjamin it looked like a High School team
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If I were Pettine I would insist that all 3 be traded for whatever draft picks he can get towards continuing to rebuild the Browns. I suspect at least Farmer is on the same page. All 3 were given more leeway than the rest of the team combined and they all 3 screwed it up themselves with their self centered behavior. There is no "I" in TEAM. Trade them all. Bring in some Browns.
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The "3". Gordon, Manziel, Gilbert. Hopefully we shitcan all of them and let some other team worry about their lack of motivation.
+ 1. They ALL should be let go
+ 1. They ALL should be let go
Agree, Gordon is just an idiot. Goodbye Johnny Football you've just been replace by "Connie Football" Gilbert is guilty by association. Birds of a feather flock together.
GO BROWNS !
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When we lined up Gabriel, Hawkins & Benjamin it looked like a High School team
When we lined up Gabriel, Hawkins & Benjamin it looked like a High School team
you weren't saying that shit when the browns were winning, real fan.
just pick moments in time when you think people don't remember what you say, come back rearrange your whole stance and act like you know what the fuck you are talking about now.
you're a joke. a bad one.
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We knew before the season that Gordon doesn't give a shit and I think he'll be gone after the season. Gilbert gets another year and I'd like to see us trade Manziel for whatever we can get.
They will be lucky to get a 6th rounder for Johnny. Every team has seen him suck on the field and they all know what he is off of it.
He might go down as the worst 1st round pick in Browns history. And that's saying A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He might go down as the worst 1st round pick in Browns history. And that's saying A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What really sucks, is that there isn't a person on this forum that can argue against that statement.
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When we lined up Gabriel, Hawkins & Benjamin it looked like a High School team
you weren't saying that shit when the browns were winning, real fan.
just pick moments in time when you think people don't remember what you say, come back rearrange your whole stance and act like you know what the fuck you are talking about now.
you're a joke. a bad one.
you weren't saying that shit when the browns were winning, real fan.
just pick moments in time when you think people don't remember what you say, come back rearrange your whole stance and act like you know what the fuck you are talking about now.
you're a joke. a bad one.
Dobbs Ferry must be out of MD 20/20.
Not saying that Benjamin, Hawkins and Gabriel deserve to be cut tomorrow but the NFL requires that you have bigger receivers and those three are tiny. They won't win 50/50 balls and they showed that today.
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He might go down as the worst 1st round pick in Browns history. And that's saying A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What really sucks, is that there isn't a person on this forum that can argue against that statement.
What really sucks, is that there isn't a person on this forum that can argue against that statement.
yeah...if they chop him, he would be about the quickest,,,,but, Id at least give props to the FO for having the balls to admit the mistake and move on, instead of the usual 3 year snow job
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When we lined up Gabriel, Hawkins & Benjamin it looked like a High School team
When we lined up Gabriel, Hawkins & Benjamin it looked like a High School team
and with Johnny in there it would like like the Wizard of Oz
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Gordon sucks. Fuck his talent. He didn't how me shit.
C'mon Man
He maybe a fuckup but he's a tall fast fuckup
C'mon Man
He maybe a fuckup but he's a tall fast fuckup
Who is one fuck up away from a year long suspension. Who basically disappeared after the Atlanta game.
fuck him...let him be someone elses problem.
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Thought this was interesting ... From ESPiN
"Prior to Sunday's game, Browns owner Jimmy Haslam sat with general manager Ray Farmer on the Ravens bench for almost 45 minutes in a lively discussion. It's very unusual for an owner and GM to sit on the opposing team's bench before a game. During the discussion, Haslam was frequently gesturing to Farmer."
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I predict Haslam is going to man up and admit he made the mistake on Johnny. It's the smartest thpeople mg he can do to restore public confidence in the FO. I believe the team is going to come down very hard on all three tomorrow with further disciplinary action as well. Haslam made a statement last year when he nuked the entire FO and staff. Expect lower level staff and at least one of the three stooges to get the nuke tomorrow. I will guess that Johnny is traded, Gordon is traded , Gilbert gets a chance , Tabor and Loggains are fired.
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I'll have much more respect for the entire organization if we simply cut Ryan Leaf v2.0 Yes, it sux beyond bad that we have wasted another 1st round pick - yet again, but it's usually best to limit your damages when possible.
There isn't a team in the league that would give us anything higher than a 6th round pick for the douchebag, and our FO has shown the ability to uncover gold in the UDFA market.
I literally hate the guy.
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they are all gone....im listening now....whitner said it 10 times....where throwing those guys off the bus and getting guys who want to win
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I'll have much more respect for the entire organization if we simply cut Ryan Leaf v2.0 Yes, it sux beyond bad that we have wasted another 1st round pick - yet again, but it's usually best to limit your damages when possible.
There isn't a team in the league that would give us anything higher than a 6th round pick for the douchebag, and our FO has shown the ability to uncover gold in the UDFA market.
I literally hate the guy.
I'll have much more respect for the entire organization if we simply cut Ryan Leaf v2.0 Yes, it sux beyond bad that we have wasted another 1st round pick - yet again, but it's usually best to limit your damages when possible.
The only positive ( and I use that term very loosely) is that it was an extra first round pick that was wasted. We still have 2 this year.
Admitting a mistake and moving on would certainly earn Haslam and company a ton of respect from the fans.
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I like it....accountability across the board....making the players accountable by cutting them....admitting they are the wriong ones...and sending a great message to the rest of the team that best players play and no one is coddled.....all good from my perspective
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I'll have much more respect for the entire organization if we simply cut Ryan Leaf v2.0 Yes, it sux beyond bad that we have wasted another 1st round pick - yet again, but it's usually best to limit your damages when possible.
The only positive ( and I use that term very loosely) is that it was an extra first round pick that was wasted. We still have 2 this year.
Admitting a mistake and moving on would certainly earn Haslam and company a ton of respect from the fans.
The only positive ( and I use that term very loosely) is that it was an extra first round pick that was wasted. We still have 2 this year.
Admitting a mistake and moving on would certainly earn Haslam and company a ton of respect from the fans.
what makes you so sure they won't mess up the next draft also?
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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