Good game, thoughts from Ravens perspective on Game and Season, and a question
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I have a genuine distaste for all the teams in our division.....but if I have to watch one win, which I have for 30 years now, Id go with Pittspuke.....at least Im kind of used to them winning....
Then Baltimore....but only cause I hate the Bengals most....what a chump team they are and always have been.....
and their helmets suck too
I have a genuine distaste for all the teams in our division.....but if I have to watch one win, which I have for 30 years now, Id go with Pittspuke.....at least Im kind of used to them winning....
Then Baltimore....but only cause I hate the Bengals most....what a chump team they are and always have been.....
and their helmets suck too
If the steelers won another Superbowl, that'd give them one more piece of ammo for their obnoxious fans "well we've won more championships than anybody."
We will root for the meatwagon so that whomever the Ravens or Steelers meet in the next round they do so with a teams depleted with injuries. If the Browns have to continue to play with third string rookies due to injuries why not these two teams. Even in a playoff game.
Because the Ravens have absolutely no injuries that they've overcome...please.
The Bengals have never won a championship since their creation in 1968.....which by the way is after the "SuperBowl era". They didn't exist in the non Super Bowl era. They came closest in 1981 and 1988 when they faced the 49ers in the Super Bowl. Both games were fairly close losses.
No team from Cincinnati/SW Ohio has ever won a pro football championship.
On the contrary, teams from Cleveland and NE Ohio have won 13 pro football championships.....tied with Green Bay for most by any city/region. (FYI, Baltimore area has 5: 3 by the Colts, 2 by Ravens)
Here is your history lesson for the day.
AFC Championships they have won seeing as they've made it to the Superbowl a few times...
But thanks for the history.
Unfortunately Gip, the Ravens and Steelers play each other first playoff wild card round.
Ergo, my rooting interest being in the meatwagon.
This part I hated the most with Steelers winning last night, because now there has to be a winner to make it to the divisional round. And if I were a betting man...I'd have to go all in on Steelers in this matchup.
Actually, worse was San Diego choking. If the Chargers had won the Ravens win over the Browns still would have not put them into the playoffs.
Honestly, that was a steal of a Christmas present.
Actually the skinny post for the TD was against Skrine. The moon ball to Smith, yeah... against Haden. I mean, statistically if you throw enough of those fuckers up there, you're bound to come down with one of them. Haden was 2 for 3 on the day, not bad.
yes, but the bomb to Smith was the momentum changer and set up the skinny post.
2 for 3 over all, 0 for 1 when it mattered the most.
He's 0 for 2 this year at the end of games in clutch moments.
FRAK!! Tomlin is no more of a football guy than Lewis or Harbaugh.
Idk what you mean by this exactly...can you please elaborate?
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I can't possibly root for any of the AFC North teams. Screw them all... I'm with whoever said they want a lot of injures in the Pittsburgh/Baltimore game so they have no chance in the next round. Go Colts.
I'd like to see Denver win just because I'd like seeing Manning get a 2nd ring. In the NFC...Im rooting for the Packers and Cowboys.
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I have a genuine distaste for all the teams in our division.....but if I have to watch one win, which I have for 30 years now, Id go with Pittspuke.....at least Im kind of used to them winning....
Then Baltimore....but only cause I hate the Bengals most....what a chump team they are and always have been.....
and their helmets suck too
If the steelers won another Superbowl, that'd give them one more piece of ammo for their obnoxious fans "well we've won more championships than anybody."
We will root for the meatwagon so that whomever the Ravens or Steelers meet in the next round they do so with a teams depleted with injuries. If the Browns have to continue to play with third string rookies due to injuries why not these two teams. Even in a playoff game.
Because the Ravens have absolutely no injuries that they've overcome...please.
The Bengals have never won a championship since their creation in 1968.....which by the way is after the "SuperBowl era". They didn't exist in the non Super Bowl era. They came closest in 1981 and 1988 when they faced the 49ers in the Super Bowl. Both games were fairly close losses.
No team from Cincinnati/SW Ohio has ever won a pro football championship.
On the contrary, teams from Cleveland and NE Ohio have won 13 pro football championships.....tied with Green Bay for most by any city/region. (FYI, Baltimore area has 5: 3 by the Colts, 2 by Ravens)
Here is your history lesson for the day.
AFC Championships they have won seeing as they've made it to the Superbowl a few times...
But thanks for the history.
Unfortunately Gip, the Ravens and Steelers play each other first playoff wild card round.
Ergo, my rooting interest being in the meatwagon.
This part I hated the most with Steelers winning last night, because now there has to be a winner to make it to the divisional round. And if I were a betting man...I'd have to go all in on Steelers in this matchup.
Actually, worse was San Diego choking. If the Chargers had won the Ravens win over the Browns still would have not put them into the playoffs.
Honestly, that was a steal of a Christmas present.
Actually the skinny post for the TD was against Skrine. The moon ball to Smith, yeah... against Haden. I mean, statistically if you throw enough of those fuckers up there, you're bound to come down with one of them. Haden was 2 for 3 on the day, not bad.
yes, but the bomb to Smith was the momentum changer and set up the skinny post.
2 for 3 over all, 0 for 1 when it mattered the most.
He's 0 for 2 this year at the end of games in clutch moments.
FRAK!! Tomlin is no more of a football guy than Lewis or Harbaugh.
Idk what you mean by this exactly...can you please elaborate?
If the steelers won another Superbowl, that'd give them one more piece of ammo for their obnoxious fans "well we've won more championships than anybody."
Winning another Super Bowl would only give Pittsburgh a little over half of the number of championships that we have won here in NEOhio.
Because the Ravens have absolutely no injuries that they've overcome...please.
Are they working on their 3rd string QB? Did your All Pro Center go down for the year? Did your Pro Bowl Nose Tackle get injured? (does losing a guy to substance about count....if so we can count the best WR in the game last year being out for 10 games). Your Pro Bowl Free Safety? Your best LB? I am sure I have not finished.
AFC Championships they have won seeing as they've made it to the Superbowl a few times...
But thanks for the history.
Bengals won those AFC Championship game twice.
Honestly, that was a steal of a Christmas present.
yes, but the bomb to Smith was the momentum changer and set up the skinny post.
2 for 3 over all, 0 for 1 when it mattered the most.
Idk what you mean by this exactly...can you please elaborate?
Opal said that he admired Tomlin and the Steelers because he was such a "football guy". I questioned that because I don't believe Tomlin is any more of a football guy than anyone else.....and I mentioned Tomlin and Lewis.
But FYI for you and for Opal....the real "football guy" that gives the Steelers their edge and has now for a decade is Dick LeBeau. He has been more valuable to the Steelers than any string of HCs that have come and gone in the AFCN over the years.
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I can't possibly root for any of the AFC North teams. Screw them all... I'm with whoever said they want a lot of injures in the Pittsburgh/Baltimore game so they have no chance in the next round. Go Colts.
I'd like to see Denver win just because I'd like seeing Manning get a 2nd ring. In the NFC...Im rooting for the Packers and Cowboys.
I can't possibly root for any of the AFC North teams. Screw them all... I'm with whoever said they want a lot of injures in the Pittsburgh/Baltimore game so they have no chance in the next round. Go Colts.
I'd like to see Denver win just because I'd like seeing Manning get a 2nd ring. In the NFC...Im rooting for the Packers and Cowboys.
I will go for the teams that went the longest without winning. That is why the Bengals winning would be OK by me. I might even be sympathetic to the Steelers and Ravens in about 50 years if they do not win. Call me then. I will be 113 years old.
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If the steelers won another Superbowl, that'd give them one more piece of ammo for their obnoxious fans "well we've won more championships than anybody."
Winning another Super Bowl would only give Pittsburgh a little over half of the number of championships that we have won here in NEOhio.
Because the Ravens have absolutely no injuries that they've overcome...please.
Are they working on their 3rd string QB? Did your All Pro Center go down for the year? Did your Pro Bowl Nose Tackle get injured? (does losing a guy to substance about count....if so we can count the best WR in the game last year being out for 10 games). Your Pro Bowl Free Safety? Your best LB? I am sure I have not finished.
AFC Championships they have won seeing as they've made it to the Superbowl a few times...
But thanks for the history.
Bengals won those AFC Championship game twice.
Honestly, that was a steal of a Christmas present.
yes, but the bomb to Smith was the momentum changer and set up the skinny post.
2 for 3 over all, 0 for 1 when it mattered the most.
Idk what you mean by this exactly...can you please elaborate?
Opal said that he admired Tomlin and the Steelers because he was such a "football guy". I questioned that because I don't believe Tomlin is any more of a football guy than anyone else.....and I mentioned Tomlin and Lewis.
But FYI for you and for Opal....the real "football guy" that gives the Steelers their edge and has now for a decade is Dick LeBeau. He has been more valuable to the Steelers than any string of HCs that have come and gone in the AFCN over the years.
If the steelers won another Superbowl, that'd give them one more piece of ammo for their obnoxious fans "well we've won more championships than anybody."
Winning another Super Bowl would only give Pittsburgh a little over half of the number of championships that we have won here in NEOhio.
True but Buttsburgh fans don't count non Superbowl Championships
Because the Ravens have absolutely no injuries that they've overcome...please.
Are they working on their 3rd string QB? Did your All Pro Center go down for the year? Did your Pro Bowl Nose Tackle get injured? (does losing a guy to substance about count....if so we can count the best WR in the game last year being out for 10 games). Your Pro Bowl Free Safety? Your best LB? I am sure I have not finished.
With out our best corner in Jimmy Smith and every good corner we had, our two tackles, four games without Ngata, lost Pitta, lost every viable member of our secondary not named Web, but he didn't play for the first 6 weeks and didn't play well until very recently, we didn't have Will Hill for the first 10 games and he and Webb are the only members of the secondary with any credentials, down to two running backs, and we lost Owen Daniels for several weeks while being without Pitta for the whole year.
We've been relying on at TE, Crocket Gilmore, Supernaw, at CB Danny Gorrer (who then also get injured), Asa Jackson (served a 6 game or so suspension and then game back for two games and got injured), Elam who's a second year safety playing nickel back, some guy hamed Rashaan Melvin playing #2 corner now that we've gone through 4-5 or more healthy corners and safeties for the year.
Our secondary is so thin that if it was paper it would break by just blowing on it.
AFC Championships they have won seeing as they've made it to the Superbowl a few times...
But thanks for the history.
Bengals won those AFC Championship game twice.
Honestly, that was a steal of a Christmas present.
yes, but the bomb to Smith was the momentum changer and set up the skinny post.
2 for 3 over all, 0 for 1 when it mattered the most.
Idk what you mean by this exactly...can you please elaborate?
Opal said that he admired Tomlin and the Steelers because he was such a "football guy". I questioned that because I don't believe Tomlin is any more of a football guy than anyone else.....and I mentioned Tomlin and Lewis.
But FYI for you and for Opal....the real "football guy" that gives the Steelers their edge and has now for a decade is Dick LeBeau. He has been more valuable to the Steelers than any string of HCs that have come and gone in the AFCN over the years.
I will go for the teams that went the longest without winning. That is why the Bengals winning would be OK by me. I might even be sympathetic to the Steelers and Ravens in about 50 years if they do not win. Call me then. I will be 113 years old.
I'll hold you to it if I'm still kicking
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First off, I'm not here to rub anything in.
The Browns were a much improved team this year. At one point you guys were 7-4 at the top of the division. And that was with without Gordon and with Hoyer starting.
That probably doesn't make many of you feel better, but it's true. The Browns are now a team I dread facing. I actually predicted you guys to win this one, and for a while it looked like I was gonna be correct.
Although much has changed from week 3 till now, both games were eerily similar.
The Browns basically controlled both games for the majority of the 4 quarters of play. Then at the end Flacco and the offense stepped up to steal the game away late. And both game winning/defining plays were made against the Browns top All Pro Corner Joe Hayden.
Anyways, good game, good season.
Now, I'm curious. Who is everybody here rooting for this Saturday, Ravens or Steelers? Or is it one of those games where you just don't root for either team?
Is there a team any of you are pulling for in the playoffs? My father has always rooted for the North winner if the Ravens weren't in it anymore. I usually root for an NFC team, usually the Packers.
First off, I'm not here to rub anything in.
The Browns were a much improved team this year. At one point you guys were 7-4 at the top of the division. And that was with without Gordon and with Hoyer starting.
That probably doesn't make many of you feel better, but it's true. The Browns are now a team I dread facing. I actually predicted you guys to win this one, and for a while it looked like I was gonna be correct.
Although much has changed from week 3 till now, both games were eerily similar.
The Browns basically controlled both games for the majority of the 4 quarters of play. Then at the end Flacco and the offense stepped up to steal the game away late. And both game winning/defining plays were made against the Browns top All Pro Corner Joe Hayden.
Anyways, good game, good season.
Now, I'm curious. Who is everybody here rooting for this Saturday, Ravens or Steelers? Or is it one of those games where you just don't root for either team?
Is there a team any of you are pulling for in the playoffs? My father has always rooted for the North winner if the Ravens weren't in it anymore. I usually root for an NFC team, usually the Packers.
I Hope you guys beat the steelers then get demolished by anyone else.
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I'll root for the packers or the patriots. Anyone else can piss off. I'll only root for the seahawks if it comes down to steelers/seahawks
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First off, I'm not here to rub anything in.
The Browns were a much improved team this year. At one point you guys were 7-4 at the top of the division. And that was with without Gordon and with Hoyer starting.
That probably doesn't make many of you feel better, but it's true. The Browns are now a team I dread facing. I actually predicted you guys to win this one, and for a while it looked like I was gonna be correct.
Although much has changed from week 3 till now, both games were eerily similar.
The Browns basically controlled both games for the majority of the 4 quarters of play. Then at the end Flacco and the offense stepped up to steal the game away late. And both game winning/defining plays were made against the Browns top All Pro Corner Joe Hayden.
Anyways, good game, good season.
Now, I'm curious. Who is everybody here rooting for this Saturday, Ravens or Steelers? Or is it one of those games where you just don't root for either team?
Is there a team any of you are pulling for in the playoffs? My father has always rooted for the North winner if the Ravens weren't in it anymore. I usually root for an NFC team, usually the Packers.
I Hope you guys beat the steelers then get demolished by anyone else.
I Hope you guys beat the steelers then get demolished by anyone else.
Man, I'd be fine with getting squashed in the divisional so long as we beat the Steelers. I'd rather beat the Steelers in the playoffs every year for eternity than see us win another superbowl. Though I'm fine with both happening as well...
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The Bengals are the only team I would root for in the AFCN. I can't stand the Ravens or Steelers. At least Paul Brown started the Bengals.
I'll be rooting for Cardinals this year.
I'll also be rooting on the Colts. For Cirbbs, DQ and Trent to get rings would be nice to see.
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If the rest of the afc north were axis powers in world War 2 it would go like this:
Pittsburgh = nazi Germany
Cincinnati = imperial Japan
Baltimore= fascist Italy
So I guess I hate Baltimore the least. By a slim margin.
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That being said, I guess my list right now off the top of my head would go like this:
Detroit
Arizona
Carolina
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Green Bay
Seattle
The remaining teams I simply don’t want to see get anywhere, but if I had to list them:
Dallas / New England Tie
Denver
Baltimore
Pittsburgh
That being said, I guess my list right now off the top of my head would go like this:
Detroit
Arizona
Carolina
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Green Bay
Seattle
The remaining teams I simply dont want to see get anywhere, but if I had to list them:
Dallas / New England Tie
Denver
Baltimore
Pittsburgh
Why Detroit? Detroit going to the Super Bowl would leave Cleveland all by its lonesome as the only founding NFL team to have never made a SB appearance.
The only other teams that never made an appearance are JAX and Hou....but they are much newer franchises.
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I Hope you guys beat the steelers then get demolished by anyone else.
Man, I'd be fine with getting squashed in the divisional so long as we beat the Steelers. I'd rather beat the Steelers in the playoffs every year for eternity than see us win another superbowl. Though I'm fine with both happening as well...
Man, I'd be fine with getting squashed in the divisional so long as we beat the Steelers. I'd rather beat the Steelers in the playoffs every year for eternity than see us win another superbowl. Though I'm fine with both happening as well...
I would root for the bengals as well...their fans deserve it. Can't think of another fan base that has suffered without a championship as long as they have.
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I can't ever root for the bungles unless they go up against the steelers
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I'll pull for the team whose had the longest championship drought....which means Pittsburgh and your team are at the bottom of the list. Actually I make an exception for those two teams. If they never won another it'd be too soon.
Fair enough, not a bad way to pick a team. So, in this tears 12 teams is that the Panthers since they never won one?
Piss off. Why would we "root" for either team?
But I'm rooting for the Panthers.
Ok. A simple no would have been fine.
My only reservation against rooting for the Panthers if the Ravens lose is the fact they're a sub 500 team in the playoffs.
My only reservation against rooting for the Panthers if the Ravens lose is the fact they're a sub 500 team in the playoffs.
Exactly. Hoping another sub 500 loser wins the Super Bowl makes a browns fan feel better about his team.
The Bengals have never won a championship since their creation in 1968.....which by the way is after the "SuperBowl era". They didn't exist in the non Super Bowl era. They came closest in 1981 and 1988 when they faced the 49ers in the Super Bowl. Both games were fairly close losses.
No team from Cincinnati/SW Ohio has ever won a pro football championship.
On the contrary, teams from Cleveland and NE Ohio have won 13 pro football championships.....tied with Green Bay for most by any city/region. (FYI, Baltimore area has 5: 3 by the Colts, 2 by Ravens)
Here is your history lesson for the day.
LoL.. the AAFC? Does Cleveland have an Arena Football championship too? May as well count that.
The AAFC was the Arena Football league of the 1940's.
The Packers have the most championships that matter period.
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Here we go
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If the Arizona diamondbacks came into the nfl and wrecked it for a decade starting immediately it would be a fair comparison.
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I'm hoping the Packers go all the way. Browns are #1 but with them not in it ...again(sigh) the Packers seem like they have always had a pretty classy organization. As far as the stealers and yardbirds...I just hope that wichever team wins, they lose half their starting team QB and all.
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And who the hell would ever pick cintucky to win a playoff game? That shit just don't happen son!
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Sorry, but if you're a Browns fan and you root for any other AFCN team you are a cunt. ESPECIALLY CINCINNATI. If two of these teams play one another you hope for a tornado/asteroid strike/terrorism. It's never acceptable under any circumstances to pull for any of these teams. Unless you have money on the game. Then it's OK.
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That being said, I guess my list right now off the top of my head would go like this:
Detroit
Arizona
Carolina
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Green Bay
Seattle
The remaining teams I simply dont want to see get anywhere, but if I had to list them:
Dallas / New England Tie
Denver
Baltimore
Pittsburgh
Why Detroit? Detroit going to the Super Bowl would leave Cleveland all by its lonesome as the only founding NFL team to have never made a SB appearance.
The only other teams that never made an appearance are JAX and Hou....but they are much newer franchises.
Why Detroit? Detroit going to the Super Bowl would leave Cleveland all by its lonesome as the only founding NFL team to have never made a SB appearance.
The only other teams that never made an appearance are JAX and Hou....but they are much newer franchises.
The Browns weren't a "founding franchise", neither were the Lions. These were (are) the "founding Franchises"
Akron Professionals
• Buffalo All-Americans
• Canton Bulldogs
• Chicago Cardinals
• Chicago Tigers
• Cleveland Tigers
• Columbus Panhandles
• Dayton Triangles
• Decatur Staleys
• Detroit Heralds
• Hammond Pros
• Muncie Flyers
• Rochester (N.Y.) Jeffersons
• Rock Island Independents
The only Franchises still extant are the Cardinals- and the Decatur Staleys- Who became the Chicago Bears. All the other franchises folded. The Packers joined the league one year later. BTW, the very first NFL game was played here in Dayton- at Triangle Park.
Exactly. Hoping another sub 500 loser wins the Super Bowl makes a browns fan feel better about his team.
LoL.. the AAFC? Does Cleveland have an Arena Football championship too? May as well count that.
The AAFC was the Arena Football league of the 1940's.
The Packers have the most championships that matter period.
Don't get Gip all mad. the AAFC was far from "Arena League". The Browns proved it- winning the Championship in 1950 when they joined the NFL. BTW, I and most others don't like how Gip is counting, though he's technically right. He's going all the way back to the days of the Canton Bulldogs.
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