Jonathan Paul Manziel
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That is reckless for Bayless to call him an alcoholic. Time for ESPN to get rid of this clown.
Z
Actually I just heard a sound byte and skip didn't really say that, he kind of soft pedddled it when it was in a question form. "so you are saying johnny is an alcoholic and a liar?" And for those with alcohol problems one of the warning signs is has alcohol ever cause problems with your job.Zombo said:
That is reckless for Bayless to call him an alcoholic. Time for ESPN to get rid of this clown.
Z
Just saying. .
WSS
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Manziel Mystery:: HELP, live in N.C. on NFL Ticket had broadcast with Cannon, so I had to have a few beers to listen. Early in the game Manziel was shown with what looked like a cell phone in his hands on the sidelines. Cannon soon after that reported JF no longer on sideline, He's disappeared.. ?? Did someone from Browns Upper Management get JF in the Locker Room after broadcast showed him with cell phone on sidelines??? Cannon and I still have no clue and beers were involved. Can anyone solve this Mystery?
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Manziel Mystery:: HELP, live in N.C. on NFL Ticket had broadcast with Cannon, so I had to have a few beers to listen. Early in the game Manziel was shown with what looked like a cell phone in his hands on the sidelines. Cannon soon after that reported JF no longer on sideline, He's disappeared.. ?? Did someone from Browns Upper Management get JF in the Locker Room after broadcast showed him with cell phone on sidelines??? Cannon and I still have no clue and beers were involved. Can anyone solve this Mystery?
Manziel Mystery:: HELP, live in N.C. on NFL Ticket had broadcast with Cannon, so I had to have a few beers to listen. Early in the game Manziel was shown with what looked like a cell phone in his hands on the sidelines. Cannon soon after that reported JF no longer on sideline, He's disappeared.. ?? Did someone from Browns Upper Management get JF in the Locker Room after broadcast showed him with cell phone on sidelines??? Cannon and I still have no clue and beers were involved. Can anyone solve this Mystery?
Man, are you a bitch.
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But I assume that everyone has read the tweets and the posts and the blurbs and whatever bullshit right? All over Facebook reports of a gigantic party with Johnny and Gordon and Gilbert and all the team bad boys which must have included some of the teams good boys right? And there's not a shred of evidence that that's the type of party that went on. So I mistrust any bullshit tweets from attention whore NFL hangers on.
and this is just one example.
WSS
But I assume that everyone has read the tweets and the posts and the blurbs and whatever bullshit right? All over Facebook reports of a gigantic party with Johnny and Gordon and Gilbert and all the team bad boys which must have included some of the teams good boys right? And there's not a shred of evidence that that's the type of party that went on. So I mistrust any bullshit tweets from attention whore NFL hangers on.
and this is just one example.
WSS
Guess what though Steve, regardless of if he did or didn't and who else came the rest of the guys showed up for fucking work. That is all but him and Gordon. In and of itself throwing a party is pretty damn normal. When it causes you to not show up for work normal ceases. Argue it all you want but the guy has clear red flag issues.
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Ok Skip Bayless calls Johnny Manziel an alcoholic liar. This is why he is the biggest fucking idiot at ESPN.
Today,
Then, at minute 2:47. Now he is a year older and he is held to Skip's standard, because....skip wants the attention.
Ok Skip Bayless calls Johnny Manziel an alcoholic liar. This is why he is the biggest fucking idiot at ESPN.
Today,
Then, at minute 2:47. Now he is a year older and he is held to Skip's standard, because....skip wants the attention.
I take it you are convinced he is not an alcoholic or a liar? Here is a little interview with his father July of last year
In a revealing profile of the Manziel family for ESPN the Magazine, Wright Thompson quotes Paul Manziel, the father of the Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback, expressing concern about what might become of his son. Paul Manziel believes Johnny feels so much pressure from all the scrutiny that comes with being a star quarterback that he might snap.“Yeah, it could come unraveled. And when it does, it’s gonna be bad. Real bad,” Paul Manziel said. “It’s one night away from the phone ringing, and he’s in jail. And you know what he’s gonna say? ‘It’s better than all the pressure I’ve been under. This is better than that.'”Manziel’s dad also said that his son drinks to deal with stress, and has anger issues that cause concern for the family.“I don’t know where the anger comes from,” Paul said. “I don’t think he knows. If it comes from his drinking, or if he’s mad at himself for not being a better person when he fails, when he fails God and his mom and me. If it makes him angry that he’s got demons in him. You can only speculate because you can’t go in there.”Paul Manziel suggested that Texas A&M isn’t providing the kind of guidance that he’d like to see his son receive in college.“He still needs to see he’s wrong — and how to control his temper. And if I give up on him, who’s gonna take over? The school sure the hell isn’t gonna do it,” he said.Paul Manziel also strongly suggested that his son will leave Texas A&M to enter the 2014 NFL draft, saying the family is getting tired of NCAA investigations.“It’s starting to get under our skin,” Paul says. “They’re so selfish.”In the NFL, Johnny Manziel won’t have to worry about NCAA compliance rules. But he’ll also be expected to conduct himself like a grown man. And his father seems to wonder if Johnny has grown up enough to do that. -
But I assume that everyone has read the tweets and the posts and the blurbs and whatever bullshit right? All over Facebook reports of a gigantic party with Johnny and Gordon and Gilbert and all the team bad boys which must have included some of the teams good boys right? And there's not a shred of evidence that that's the type of party that went on. So I mistrust any bullshit tweets from attention whore NFL hangers on.
and this is just one example.
WSS
Guess what though Steve, regardless of if he did or didn't and who else came the rest of the guys showed up for fucking work. That is all but him and Gordon. In and of itself throwing a party is pretty damn normal. When it causes you to not show up for work normal ceases. Argue it all you want but the guy has clear red flag issues.
and I say the keywords in your response are the very first. If you preface your complaint with whether he did or didn't do it... I think you understand. And I also understand that when amplified it's bad PR. But I also think people are looking for something to bitch about whether it matters or not.Guess what though Steve, regardless of if he did or didn't and who else came the rest of the guys showed up for fucking work. That is all but him and Gordon. In and of itself throwing a party is pretty damn normal. When it causes you to not show up for work normal ceases. Argue it all you want but the guy has clear red flag issues.
for instance if I was telling everyone Zombo was drunk at a party and beat up a chick. Then somebody says no no no he was drunk but he never beat up a chick. And you say well whether he did or didn't...
WSS
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and I say the keywords in your response are the very first. If you preface your complaint with whether he did or didn't do it... I think you understand. And I also understand that when amplified it's bad PR. But I also think people are looking for something to bitch about whether it matters or not.Guess what though Steve, regardless of if he did or didn't and who else came the rest of the guys showed up for fucking work. That is all but him and Gordon. In and of itself throwing a party is pretty damn normal. When it causes you to not show up for work normal ceases. Argue it all you want but the guy has clear red flag issues.
for instance if I was telling everyone Zombo was drunk at a party and beat up a chick. Then somebody says no no no he was drunk but he never beat up a chick. And you say well whether he did or didn't...
WSS
and I say the keywords in your response are the very first. If you preface your complaint with whether he did or didn't do it... I think you understand. And I also understand that when amplified it's bad PR. But I also think people are looking for something to bitch about whether it matters or not.
for instance if I was telling everyone Zombo was drunk at a party and beat up a chick. Then somebody says no no no he was drunk but he never beat up a chick. And you say well whether he did or didn't...
WSS
"Well we hung him at high noon and found out later he didn't really do all the things we hung him for. But since he still needs hangin', no use cuttin' him down now."
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and I say the keywords in your response are the very first. If you preface your complaint with whether he did or didn't do it... I think you understand. And I also understand that when amplified it's bad PR. But I also think people are looking for something to bitch about whether it matters or not.
for instance if I was telling everyone Zombo was drunk at a party and beat up a chick. Then somebody says no no no he was drunk but he never beat up a chick. And you say well whether he did or didn't...
WSS
"Well we hung him at high noon and found out later he didn't really do all the things we hung him for. But since he still needs hangin', no use cuttin' him down now."
"Well we hung him at high noon and found out later he didn't really do all the things we hung him for. But since he still needs hangin', no use cuttin' him down now."
second time in one day you use that same quote.
is that something from texas folklore?
seems like it rolls off your tongue a little too easy there in TX.......
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@everlastingxxx said:
Skip has been saying for awhile that Manziel has an alcohol problem. Its not a new opinion. Bayless says he grew up around alcoholics and knows what it is. Read the Patriot scouting report on Manziel, everything in it has proven to be true.
BTW, i enjoy First Take. I think its a fun show.
First take is for slow dimwits... So if I were you I wouldn't ever watch it again. People come out of that show and then post on forums completely wrong information. It's crazy but you can pinpoint the type of people that follow and use that show as context.
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Actually, it would make a huge difference if Manziel WAS out fishing.
I'm seriously wondering if Manziel needs to go to rehab with the partying and drinking.
Bayless is calling Manziel an "alcoholic liar"
Hey, I don't know what Manziel has lied about...ya know what I'm sayin ?
Actually, it would make a huge difference if Manziel WAS out fishing.
I'm seriously wondering if Manziel needs to go to rehab with the partying and drinking.
Bayless is calling Manziel an "alcoholic liar"
Hey, I don't know what Manziel has lied about...ya know what I'm sayin ?
Harsh words form Bayless. I have to assume he's known an alky or two in his life. They will lie their ass off to get out of trouble, and they all sooner or later get into a bIg D-Nile trip- well, I haven't done that YET.
Uh that's kind of universal around this place isn't it?
WSS
Steve you can believe it or not- but there was a report out Manziel's dad offered to buy him a car in HS if he'd lay off the booze.
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Steve you can believe it or not- but there was a report out Manziel's dad offered to buy him a car in HS if he'd lay off the booze.
Well goody, but that has absolutely nothing to do with my statement.
WSS
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There may be some NFL team that believes JM was not really given the chance here in Cleveland and if the Browns and JM are going to part company I recommend they do it now. That is something Mudfly posted I agree with. They need to make a decision ASAP.
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Obviously get some time to relax.. Ya know kick your feet up a little bit. Deserve a little bit of a break
Manziel via Bleacher Report
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
"Well we hung him at high noon and found out later he didn't really do all the things we hung him for. But since he still needs hangin', no use cuttin' him down now."
second time in one day you use that same quote.
is that something from texas folklore?
seems like it rolls off your tongue a little too easy there in TX.......
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093069/cleveland-browns-qb-johnny-manziel-says-back-words-action
He gives an interview here, saying '100 percent' he didn't throw a party, that he did not spend the night with Josh Gordon, etc.
Well, I'm convinced.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093069/cleveland-browns-qb-johnny-manziel-says-back-words-action
He gives an interview here, saying '100 percent' he didn't throw a party, that he did not spend the night with Josh Gordon, etc.
Well, I'm convinced.
I have no idea but is there any evidence besides a couple tweets from random fucks? Anybody post a photograph? No? Hey I saw Chris chopping up lines of coke with the Queen last night.http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093069/cleveland-browns-qb-johnny-manziel-says-back-words-action
He gives an interview here, saying '100 percent' he didn't throw a party, that he did not spend the night with Josh Gordon, etc.
Well, I'm convinced.
on the Tony Rizzo show somebody said that they got a tweet that Johnny was at the barley house at 3 a.m.. If I had my phone to make a tweet Id have taking a fucking picture. Wouldn't you guys? Come on.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Obviously get some time to relax.. Ya know kick your feet up a little bit. Deserve a little bit of a break
Manziel via Bleacher Report
Obviously get some time to relax.. Ya know kick your feet up a little bit. Deserve a little bit of a break
Manziel via Bleacher Report
I thought women were the ones who constantly berated someone?
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I have no idea but is there any evidence besides a couple tweets from random fucks? Anybody post a photograph? No? Hey I saw Chris chopping up lines of coke with the Queen last night.http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093069/cleveland-browns-qb-johnny-manziel-says-back-words-action
He gives an interview here, saying '100 percent' he didn't throw a party, that he did not spend the night with Josh Gordon, etc.
Well, I'm convinced.
on the Tony Rizzo show somebody said that they got a tweet that Johnny was at the barley house at 3 a.m.. If I had my phone to make a tweet Id have taking a fucking picture. Wouldn't you guys? Come on.
WSS
I have no idea but is there any evidence besides a couple tweets from random fucks? Anybody post a photograph? No? Hey I saw Chris chopping up lines of coke with the Queen last night.
on the Tony Rizzo show somebody said that they got a tweet that Johnny was at the barley house at 3 a.m.. If I had my phone to make a tweet Id have taking a fucking picture. Wouldn't you guys? Come on.
WSS
I'm inclined to agree - was there actually any evidence about this?
Also, the queen is more of a ground-up-swan-bones kind of woman. Coke is too low-brow for her.
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Trade him to Texas for Clowney. They have Watt, love JF and are worried enough about Clowney's injury to consider it. Pick up a new QB in the draft.
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Even if what Manziel says is true with his version of events it still does not exonerate him from his own irresponsible behavior.
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