Free Agency
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Hey, Derek has looked awesome this year.
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Spotrac is a great site... here's my take on our FAs...
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/cleveland-browns/
Player Pos Status From To Age Exp 2014 Cap Hit
High - Sign at essentially all cost; consider Franchise tag
Tashaun Gipson S RFA CLE TBD 24 2 $570,500
Med - Make competitive offer with intent to retain
Miles Austin WR UFA CLE TBD 30 8 $2,000,000
Jabaal Sheard OLB UFA CLE TBD 25 3 $1,619,625
Buster Skrine CB UFA CLE TBD 25 3 $1,481,500
Ishmaa'ily Kitchen DT RFA CLE TBD 26 2 $570,000
Craig Robertson ILB ERFA CLE TBD 26 2 $570,000
Jim Leonhard S UFA CLE TBD 32 9 $570,000
Shaun Draughn RB UFA CLE TBD 27 2 $134,117
Scott Solomon DE UFA CLE TBD 26 2 $67,05
Low - Make reasonable offer with degree of willingness to part ways
Jordan Cameron TE UFA CLE TBD 26 3 $1,550,350
Brian Hoyer QB UFA CLE TBD 29 4 $1,250,000
Ahtyba Rubin DT UFA CLE TBD 28 6 $8,175,000
Johnson Bademosi S RFA CLE TBD 24 2 $570,834
Spencer Lanning P ERFA CLE TBD 26 1 $495,000
Marlon Moore WR UFA CLE TBD 27 4 $435,882
Ryan Seymour G ERFA CLE TBD 24 1 $320,294
No - Take it or leave it, low ball
Sione Fua DT UFA CLE TBD 26 3 $417,353
Andre Smith TE RFA CLE TBD 26 2 $333,0008
Tyler Thigpen QB UFA CLE TBD 30 7 $33,529
Jermaine Saffold WR RFA CLE TBD 25 $0
Zac Diles ILB UFA CLE TBD 29 7 $0
Solomon Elimimian LB ERFA CLE TBD 28 1 $0
Matt Cleveland G RFA CLE TBD 25 $0
Emanuel Davis CB RFA CLE TBD 26 $0
Jake Anderson G RFA CLE TBD 25 $0
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It's imperative to resign Gipson
It's imperative to resign Gipson
Will he want to stay? He won't be short of offers.
Gipson is a restricted free agent, which will allow us to match any offers.....so, the Browns can have him if they want him....
Justin Houston.
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I dont think he's getting away....they'll tag him for sure...
I will say Ive backed off a touch on signing Skrine....especially if we have to pay him top dollar. Would hate to do a large contract with him, then have Desir or Gilbert take over the starters role.....suddenly, we could have a multimillion dollar nickle back.....and I do believe we have so much quality in the DB's that it's likey one of them will emerge as a TOP player....Desir/Gilbert/Williams...
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Was thinking the WR crop looks very fine this year in terms of FA's......and dont see farmer signing a superstar like Dez Bryant....but a few that caught me eye and would fit in well were...
Torrey Smith...who I think could be our #1 no sweat
Michael Crabtree....solid/dependable and would be a good system receiver
Cecil Shorts ...my dark horse
...probably not #1 material, but a good fit for us none the less. AND he REALLY wants to be here. I say go get him!And Ill take Thomas or Bryant, but somehow dont see that happening.ha!
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Spotrac is a great site... here's my take on our FAs...
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/cleveland-browns/
Player Pos Status From To Age Exp 2014 Cap Hit
High - Sign at essentially all cost; consider Franchise tag
Tashaun Gipson S RFA CLE TBD 24 2 $570,500
Med - Make competitive offer with intent to retain
Miles Austin WR UFA CLE TBD 30 8 $2,000,000
Jabaal Sheard OLB UFA CLE TBD 25 3 $1,619,625
Buster Skrine CB UFA CLE TBD 25 3 $1,481,500
Ishmaa'ily Kitchen DT RFA CLE TBD 26 2 $570,000
Craig Robertson ILB ERFA CLE TBD 26 2 $570,000
Jim Leonhard S UFA CLE TBD 32 9 $570,000
Shaun Draughn RB UFA CLE TBD 27 2 $134,117
Scott Solomon DE UFA CLE TBD 26 2 $67,05
Low - Make reasonable offer with degree of willingness to part ways
Jordan Cameron TE UFA CLE TBD 26 3 $1,550,350
Brian Hoyer QB UFA CLE TBD 29 4 $1,250,000
Ahtyba Rubin DT UFA CLE TBD 28 6 $8,175,000
Johnson Bademosi S RFA CLE TBD 24 2 $570,834
Spencer Lanning P ERFA CLE TBD 26 1 $495,000
Marlon Moore WR UFA CLE TBD 27 4 $435,882
Ryan Seymour G ERFA CLE TBD 24 1 $320,294
No - Take it or leave it, low ball
Sione Fua DT UFA CLE TBD 26 3 $417,353
Andre Smith TE RFA CLE TBD 26 2 $333,0008
Tyler Thigpen QB UFA CLE TBD 30 7 $33,529
Jermaine Saffold WR RFA CLE TBD 25 $0
Zac Diles ILB UFA CLE TBD 29 7 $0
Solomon Elimimian LB ERFA CLE TBD 28 1 $0
Matt Cleveland G RFA CLE TBD 25 $0
Emanuel Davis CB RFA CLE TBD 26 $0
Jake Anderson G RFA CLE TBD 25 $0
Spotrac is a great site... here's my take on our FAs...
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/cleveland-browns/
Player Pos Status From To Age Exp 2014 Cap Hit
High - Sign at essentially all cost; consider Franchise tag
Tashaun Gipson S RFA CLE TBD 24 2 $570,500
Med - Make competitive offer with intent to retain
Miles Austin WR UFA CLE TBD 30 8 $2,000,000
Jabaal Sheard OLB UFA CLE TBD 25 3 $1,619,625
Buster Skrine CB UFA CLE TBD 25 3 $1,481,500
Ishmaa'ily Kitchen DT RFA CLE TBD 26 2 $570,000
Craig Robertson ILB ERFA CLE TBD 26 2 $570,000
Jim Leonhard S UFA CLE TBD 32 9 $570,000
Shaun Draughn RB UFA CLE TBD 27 2 $134,117
Scott Solomon DE UFA CLE TBD 26 2 $67,05
Low - Make reasonable offer with degree of willingness to part ways
Jordan Cameron TE UFA CLE TBD 26 3 $1,550,350
Brian Hoyer QB UFA CLE TBD 29 4 $1,250,000
Ahtyba Rubin DT UFA CLE TBD 28 6 $8,175,000
Johnson Bademosi S RFA CLE TBD 24 2 $570,834
Spencer Lanning P ERFA CLE TBD 26 1 $495,000
Marlon Moore WR UFA CLE TBD 27 4 $435,882
Ryan Seymour G ERFA CLE TBD 24 1 $320,294
No - Take it or leave it, low ball
Sione Fua DT UFA CLE TBD 26 3 $417,353
Andre Smith TE RFA CLE TBD 26 2 $333,0008
Tyler Thigpen QB UFA CLE TBD 30 7 $33,529
Jermaine Saffold WR RFA CLE TBD 25 $0
Zac Diles ILB UFA CLE TBD 29 7 $0
Solomon Elimimian LB ERFA CLE TBD 28 1 $0
Matt Cleveland G RFA CLE TBD 25 $0
Emanuel Davis CB RFA CLE TBD 26 $0
Jake Anderson G RFA CLE TBD 25 $0
Leonhard retired.
And I am not so keen on keeping Sheard. He is too similar to Kruger, if they are both on the field as the same time we can't cover, I'd rather add a speedier outside linebacker.
Zombo
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I'm not on the Mallett train either, but I WOULD take a flyer on Sanchez, especially if we hit a FA WR or two.Keep Gipson & solidify OL, DL & LB thru lower end FA, trade & draft.
Like anyone, I like to guess, but I'm trusting the guys who REALLY know & that ain't me!
Mike
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Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston.
Justin Houston.
Oh, and, Justin Houston.
That is all.
Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston.
Justin Houston.
Oh, and, Justin Houston.
That is all.
I think it's been said he's not leaving KC, they're gonna pay him it's already a done deal. I wouldn't be opposed to going after Orakpo especially if Sheard is going to be gone. I know he's over the hill but I wouldn't mind getting Freeney for next to nothing so he can come in and teach some of our guys his pass rush. Also might be nice to pull Worilds out of Pgh.
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Assume we bring Robertson back as he is Exclusive FA?
I assume so, yeah, especially how well he stepped up in Dansby's absence. People had him as a lame duck that would roll over and hand the starting job to Kirksey, but that doesn't seem to have happened. For me, ILB isn't as big a need as OLB and DE/NT.
. For me, ILB isn't as big a need as OLB and DE/NT.
You think OLB is a bigger need than ILB? Please explain cause I watched us get gouged the entire season up the middle. You can argue some fo that is on the D line for sure but when it comes down to it ILB'ers are responsible for the run, period.
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Build through the draft or continue to lose. How many of the perenial playoff teams have been built through free agency?
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
I think it is very likely we sign Cecil Shorts. He'd be a legitimate #2 reciever for us opposite whoever our #1 would be. He would definitely "play like a Brown" since he is from Cleveland.
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I think it is very likely we sign Cecil Shorts. He'd be a legitimate #2 reciever for us opposite whoever our #1 would be. He would definitely "play like a Brown" since he is from Cleveland.
I think it is very likely we sign Cecil Shorts. He'd be a legitimate #2 reciever for us opposite whoever our #1 would be. He would definitely "play like a Brown" since he is from Cleveland.
He was one of the few names at WR I looked twice at, but I feel that might be because he's had big games against us (now known as the Kirk Cousins effect), I'm not sure how he's done outside of that?
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Build through the draft or continue to lose. How many of the perenial playoff teams have been built through free agency?
Build through the draft or continue to lose. How many of the perenial playoff teams have been built through free agency?
And how many successful teams add nobody in free agency and rely on rookies every year?
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. For me, ILB isn't as big a need as OLB and DE/NT.
You think OLB is a bigger need than ILB? Please explain cause I watched us get gouged the entire season up the middle. You can argue some fo that is on the D line for sure but when it comes down to it ILB'ers are responsible for the run, period.
You think OLB is a bigger need than ILB? Please explain cause I watched us get gouged the entire season up the middle. You can argue some fo that is on the D line for sure but when it comes down to it ILB'ers are responsible for the run, period.
We failed to put any consistent pressure on the QB this year, outside of Kruger. Part of that is on the DL as well for sure, but Sheard was generally underwhelming and his contract is up, and Mingo has done nothing of note in the two years he has been here. Meanwhile, Dansby has been playing at a very high level, and Robertson was very impressive in the games Dansby was out and he needed to step up.
Basically, I put run stopping on the DL, with ILB to mop up, and the DL hasn't been doing that effectively this season, nor generating pass rush. So for me, DL first, then OLB/ILB. I wouldn't be at all upset though if the FO had the priorities flipped, there's not much in it.
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Mingo is getting better and has basically been playing with one shoulder in use. I still have high hopes for him.
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Mingo is getting better and has basically been playing with one shoulder in use. I still have high hopes for him.
Mingo is getting better and has basically been playing with one shoulder in use. I still have high hopes for him.
I'm not ready to give up on him just yet, and hopefully he can get his shoulder injury behind him, but he hasn't been exactly terrifying when healthy.
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. For me, ILB isn't as big a need as OLB and DE/NT.
You think OLB is a bigger need than ILB? Please explain cause I watched us get gouged the entire season up the middle. You can argue some fo that is on the D line for sure but when it comes down to it ILB'ers are responsible for the run, period.
You think OLB is a bigger need than ILB? Please explain cause I watched us get gouged the entire season up the middle. You can argue some fo that is on the D line for sure but when it comes down to it ILB'ers are responsible for the run, period.
They can't reliably stop the run if the D-line has already been pushed 3-5 yards upfield off the snap. When Taylor was in, the ILBs looked fine and the run defense was good. They were able to do their job.
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Mingo is getting better and has basically been playing with one shoulder in use. I still have high hopes for him.
I'm not ready to give up on him just yet, and hopefully he can get his shoulder injury behind him, but he hasn't been exactly terrifying when healthy.
I'm not ready to give up on him just yet, and hopefully he can get his shoulder injury behind him, but he hasn't been exactly terrifying when healthy.
Yeah he is still an undersized, finesse player when healthy.
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Mingo can't tackle worth a shit. Speak english.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.â - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Yeah he is still an undersized, finesse player when healthy.
Yet he has the size to be an ILB - I wonder...?
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Mingo can't tackle worth a shit. Speak english.
Mingo can't tackle worth a shit. Speak english.
I was trying to be fair when talking about a Charmin soft tackler who can run fast.
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