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49'ers ask for permission to speak to Shanahan

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  • TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on
    #1

    looks like its a new offense again next season

  • P Pumpkin Eater wrote on
    #2

    Lol @ 49ers

    :neutral_face:
  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #3

    Yes, please speak to the 9ers and then sign a contract with them.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #4

    Hey, it will be easy to replace him with another OC, who can run

    on first down most every time....

    I really hate that.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on
    #5

    Please take him San Francisco.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #6

    Oh no! Moving on, who's the new OC? Sticking with the run-first (as it's our strength and Farmer/Pettine's philosophy)?

  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #7

    I don't mind Shanny. There should have been better depth behind Mack. If the running game works, even a middling QB like Hoyer can operate this offense successfully.

    By the end of the year we had tiny QBs throwing to tiny wrs, we looked like a college team, that's not his fault.

    I'd like to see this offense a second season with a healthy/improved O-Line, better QBing and real receivers.

    If he leaves, fine, not good for Johnny though. This offense was tailor made for Johnny if we go to a vertical attack we might as well trade him.

    Zombo

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #8

    Agree, Z...

    Our O-line adapted to the ZBS much better than I thought they would. Given the choice of a new OC and scheme, or Shanny year-2, then I'll take the latter.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on
    #9

    Thats true. Just think if we get another Offensive Coordinator. JFF will take another year plus to learn it....

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #10

    take shanahan and put manziel under his arm on the way out the door.

    D BoneD 1 Reply
  • W Westside Steve wrote on
    #11

    The offense we were in almost all year was certainly not tailored for Johnny Manziel. They changed up the game plan when they put him in against Cincinnati. (which I think fucked up the rest of the team) The run first offense was designed to take the spotlight off of Brian Hoyer. When the running game kicked ass it was good enough.

    No idea why a vanilla run offense wouldn't be a good idea especially if there were a few changes of pace for a quarterback scramble or something like that.

    WSS

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #12

    i think tailoring anything for manziel at this point, is not goint to happen.

    manziel and gordon are on thinner ice than an ice fisherman on the hudson.

    one more screw up from either of them and you can count them GONE.

    B 1 Reply
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    take shanahan and put manziel under his arm on the way out the door.

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #13

    @miktoxic said:

    take shanahan and put manziel under his arm on the way out the door.

    or in his pocket

  • W Westside Steve

    The offense we were in almost all year was certainly not tailored for Johnny Manziel. They changed up the game plan when they put him in against Cincinnati. (which I think fucked up the rest of the team) The run first offense was designed to take the spotlight off of Brian Hoyer. When the running game kicked ass it was good enough.

    No idea why a vanilla run offense wouldn't be a good idea especially if there were a few changes of pace for a quarterback scramble or something like that.

    WSS

    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on
    #14

    @westside-steve said:

    The offense we were in almost all year was certainly not tailored for Johnny Manziel. They changed up the game plan when they put him in against Cincinnati. (which I think fucked up the rest of the team) The run first offense was designed to take the spotlight off of Brian Hoyer. When the running game kicked ass it was good enough.

    No idea why a vanilla run offense wouldn't be a good idea especially if there were a few changes of pace for a quarterback scramble or something like that.

    WSS

    I agree & that certainly didn't help Johnny either.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #15

    Let's get Peyton Manning to retire and become our oc. Rumor has it he's been looking at properties in Strongsville.

    MudflyM 1 Reply
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  • W Westside Steve

    The offense we were in almost all year was certainly not tailored for Johnny Manziel. They changed up the game plan when they put him in against Cincinnati. (which I think fucked up the rest of the team) The run first offense was designed to take the spotlight off of Brian Hoyer. When the running game kicked ass it was good enough.

    No idea why a vanilla run offense wouldn't be a good idea especially if there were a few changes of pace for a quarterback scramble or something like that.

    WSS

    Z Zombo wrote on
    #16

    @westside-steve said:

    The offense we were in almost all year was certainly not tailored for Johnny Manziel. They changed up the game plan when they put him in against Cincinnati. (which I think fucked up the rest of the team) The run first offense was designed to take the spotlight off of Brian Hoyer. When the running game kicked ass it was good enough.

    No idea why a vanilla run offense wouldn't be a good idea especially if there were a few changes of pace for a quarterback scramble or something like that.

    WSS

    Of course he had a different game plan for Hoyer than Manziel.

    But the zone blocking, play-action offense works well with someone of Manziel's skillset.

    A vertical passing game, like we had with Norv Turner, would not.

    I am confident Shannahan could design an offense around Johnny. Whether Johnny is going to be prepared enough, good enough, and mentally engaged enough to be an NFL success is another thing.

    Let's hope so. I hope Shanny is back.

    Zombo

  • Z Zombo

    @westside-steve said:

    The offense we were in almost all year was certainly not tailored for Johnny Manziel. They changed up the game plan when they put him in against Cincinnati. (which I think fucked up the rest of the team) The run first offense was designed to take the spotlight off of Brian Hoyer. When the running game kicked ass it was good enough.

    No idea why a vanilla run offense wouldn't be a good idea especially if there were a few changes of pace for a quarterback scramble or something like that.

    WSS

    Of course he had a different game plan for Hoyer than Manziel.

    But the zone blocking, play-action offense works well with someone of Manziel's skillset.

    A vertical passing game, like we had with Norv Turner, would not.

    I am confident Shannahan could design an offense around Johnny. Whether Johnny is going to be prepared enough, good enough, and mentally engaged enough to be an NFL success is another thing.

    Let's hope so. I hope Shanny is back.

    Zombo

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #17

    Zombo said:

    But the zone blocking, play-action offense works well with someone of Manziel's skillset.

    Except... with Manziel the fakes shifted to read-option looks out of the pistol from the drop back, "ball on hip" ball skills Hoyer showed. The change produced far less effective fakes. In the Buffalo game JM was effective ball faking on drop backs... at least for one drive.

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    Let's get Peyton Manning to retire and become our oc. Rumor has it he's been looking at properties in Strongsville.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #18

    @bbedward said:

    Let's get Peyton Manning to retire and become our oc. Rumor has it he's been looking at properties in Strongsville.

    Ha!..Peyton and his family are buddies with Jimmy Haslam, who is a Tennessee fanatic and supporter. Someday this could actually happen....you never know

    Which is another reason Im not 100% sold on the whole Haslam/Manziel manlove thing....Because of their association, I've always thought of mr button down Peyton Manning as being Haslems kind of guy, not jff

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #19

    Sorry peeps all I read is MIKE Shanny,Father to KYLE Shanny.To interview for H C at 49'er.Still in pistol and running on first down..

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #20

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/1/3/7483807/49ers-head-coach-candidates-kyle-shanahan-interview-request

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