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2015 QB Draft Watch

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  • C Clevfan4life

    I don't get the whole Mariota thing. I mean he's not terrible for sure, but he isn't Luck or anything like that. He benefits tremendously from the system he plays in, kind of like Tebow did. It's a system that not many programs in the country can really stop. Take Mariota out of that system are his numbers as good? I dunno....I don't see the kind of throws from him though that make me say omg a team would be absolutely Retarded not to take him #1. He's good...just not as good as the constant hype around him. Luck was really the last qb I saw in college that I was like holy fuck that guy is a can't miss NFL qb.

    @clevfan4life said:

    I don't get the whole Mariota thing. I mean he's not terrible for sure, but he isn't Luck or anything like that. He benefits tremendously from the system he plays in, kind of like Tebow did. It's a system that not many programs in the country can really stop. Take Mariota out of that system are his numbers as good? I dunno....I don't see the kind of throws from him though that make me say omg a team would be absolutely Retarded not to take him #1. He's good...just not as good as the constant hype around him. Luck was really the last qb I saw in college that I was like holy fuck that guy is a can't miss NFL qb.

    The spread option has totally fucked up QB evaluations. Mariota is a great athlete but the best QB the ducks ever had in that system was Dennis Dixon (yes, better than Mariota, he was going to win the heisman in 2007 until he blew out his ACL). Dixon started 3 games in the NFL and is now out of the league.

  • i don't know what planet you guys were watching the game from but here in NY mariota was the clear cut #1 QB in any bowl game (so far) this year.

  • I wasn't impressed by Oregon, I know they won big, but it was in large part thanks to FSU. It seemed they couldn't wait to give the ball back. Terrible fumble after terrible fumble after dropped pass after terrible fumble. They shot themselves in the foot every time. I think apart from winstons ridiculous fumble that he looked like a far better NFL prospect. the only reason people are projecting Mariota to go #1 is because Winston raped a bitch with stolen crab legs. As far as physical tools go, Winston has a better build and a better arm playing in a system that is far more likely to produce an NFL talent.

  • the best thing about thursday was looking at mark may's face eat it as he hates ohio state and the big ten.

    fuck him and anyone that looks like him.

  • Cardale Jones, this place never ceases to amaze. Browns fans would draft a fucking turd if it wore an Ohio State jersey, oh wait they did his name was Brian Robiskie.

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  • No QB in this years draft stands out, which is good. Plus Farmer doesn't believe in measureables so maybe Papa Smurf wil be a free agent.

  • B BaconHound

    Cardale Jones, this place never ceases to amaze. Browns fans would draft a fucking turd if it wore an Ohio State jersey, oh wait they did his name was Brian Robiskie.

    @baconhound said:

    Cardale Jones, this place never ceases to amaze. Browns fans would draft a fucking turd if it wore an Ohio State jersey, oh wait they did his name was Brian Robiskie.

    Did you read anything anyone actually wrote about him? Or did you just see his name and get so excited to make an Ohio State quip that you fumbled a dumb response all over your titties?

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • B BaconHound

    Cardale Jones, this place never ceases to amaze. Browns fans would draft a fucking turd if it wore an Ohio State jersey, oh wait they did his name was Brian Robiskie.

    @baconhound said:

    Cardale Jones, this place never ceases to amaze. Browns fans would draft a fucking turd if it wore an Ohio State jersey, oh wait they did his name was Brian Robiskie.

    While stopping short of calling you a Retard - just about EVERYONE thought that was a match made in Heaven with Robo. Kid had a productive career, son of an NFL coach,

    great hands and ran crisp routes. Only thing that kept him from being a 1st round pick was having that elite top end gear. Things just didn't work out. He was given positive grades by scouts across the league.

    Strangely enough, had we drafted Hartline in the 4th, you'd probably still be bitching.

    edit: Cardale has a very long way to go. But he has the physical tools you crave in an NFL QB. That much cannot be denied.

  • Take a shot on Hundley in the second. The guy makes NFL throws and is hella athletic. He's raw, but with some refining he could be a stud.

    I fully believe Ray Farmer will take a qb in this draft and I believe he'll take one in any round he feels necessary. Hundley could be the best bet for a second round pick. Outside of an amazing combine he could definitely find himself going early on Day 2.

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  • If Jones entered the draft I could see an organization take a flyer on him as a project. Sit him three or 4 years behind Bitch Ben. He can easily make every throw at nfl level and at 6'5 250 lbs he's as big as ur linebackers.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • B BaconHound

    Cardale Jones, this place never ceases to amaze. Browns fans would draft a fucking turd if it wore an Ohio State jersey, oh wait they did his name was Brian Robiskie.

    @baconhound said:

    Cardale Jones, this place never ceases to amaze. Browns fans would draft a fucking turd if it wore an Ohio State jersey, oh wait they did his name was Brian Robiskie.

    ????????? are you seeing things? besides, tell me how that would be possible?

    @baconhound said:

    No QB in this years draft stands out, which is good. Plus Farmer doesn't believe in measureables so maybe Papa Smurf wil be a free agent.

    bullshit. i'll take any of 5 over what the browns have on their roster now.

    @hunt-daddy said:

    Take a shot on Hundley in the second. The guy makes NFL throws and is hella athletic. He's raw, but with some refining he could be a stud.

    I fully believe Ray Farmer will take a qb in this draft and I believe he'll take one in any round he feels necessary. Hundley could be the best bet for a second round pick. Outside of an amazing combine he could definitely find himself going early on Day 2.

    hundley might be gone by the second depending on what teams draft QBs. he'll prob be rated third depending on his #'s coming out of the combine and pro day etc.

  • To me the best QB pro prospect is Winston. He has all the size, strength, and arm talent. He has played in a more pro style offense then the others

    He is an idiot off the field for sure, so that should hurt him, but as far as on the field talent, he's better then all the others.

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • Browns149B Browns149

    To me the best QB pro prospect is Winston. He has all the size, strength, and arm talent. He has played in a more pro style offense then the others

    He is an idiot off the field for sure, so that should hurt him, but as far as on the field talent, he's better then all the others.

    @browns149 said:

    He is an idiot off the field for sure,

    and that's why he'll never be a cleveland brown.

    we already have one of those.

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  • B BaconHound

    Cardale Jones, this place never ceases to amaze. Browns fans would draft a fucking turd if it wore an Ohio State jersey, oh wait they did his name was Brian Robiskie.

    @baconhound said:

    Cardale Jones, this place never ceases to amaze. Browns fans would draft a fucking turd if it wore an Ohio State jersey, oh wait they did his name was Brian Robiskie.

    SO ifJones beats up Wisconsin, Alabama, and Oregon on the way to a National Championship and enters nfl drafted , rightfully so. U won't even take a second look at him? That's stupid. Size, big arm, elusive, and can take the punishment of nfl caliber defense. That's a bit of bias I guess??

    He wins Championship he should come out.

    If I'm J.T Barrett I'm demanding to be starter day one or I'll transfer........ to Michigan..

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @browns149 said:

    He is an idiot off the field for sure,

    and that's why he'll never be a cleveland brown.

    we already have one of those.

    @miktoxic said:

    and that's why he'll never be a cleveland brown.

    we already have one of those.

    The difference is ours is shrimpy and can't play.

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149

    @miktoxic said:

    and that's why he'll never be a cleveland brown.

    we already have one of those.

    The difference is ours is shrimpy and can't play.

    @browns149 said:

    The difference is ours is shrimpy and can't play.

    no doubt.

    shoulda coulda woulda waited until this year to draft the franchise guy.............

    just saying. there were a lot of us here that said we didn't need to draft a qb last year.

  • cdl15C cdl15

    @baconhound said:

    Cardale Jones, this place never ceases to amaze. Browns fans would draft a fucking turd if it wore an Ohio State jersey, oh wait they did his name was Brian Robiskie.

    SO ifJones beats up Wisconsin, Alabama, and Oregon on the way to a National Championship and enters nfl drafted , rightfully so. U won't even take a second look at him? That's stupid. Size, big arm, elusive, and can take the punishment of nfl caliber defense. That's a bit of bias I guess??

    He wins Championship he should come out.

    If I'm J.T Barrett I'm demanding to be starter day one or I'll transfer........ to Michigan..

    @cdl15 said:

    SO ifJones beats up Wisconsin, Alabama, and Oregon on the way to a National Championship and enters nfl drafted , rightfully so. U won't even take a second look at him? That's stupid. Size, big arm, elusive, and can take the punishment of nfl caliber defense. That's a bit of bias I guess??

    He wins Championship he should come out.

    If I'm J.T Barrett I'm demanding to be starter day one or I'll transfer........ to Michigan..

    No the running game beat up Wisconsin and Alabama. He completes 58% in college, he is no where near a pro-QB but he does wear an Ohio St jersey

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  • B BaconHound

    @cdl15 said:

    SO ifJones beats up Wisconsin, Alabama, and Oregon on the way to a National Championship and enters nfl drafted , rightfully so. U won't even take a second look at him? That's stupid. Size, big arm, elusive, and can take the punishment of nfl caliber defense. That's a bit of bias I guess??

    He wins Championship he should come out.

    If I'm J.T Barrett I'm demanding to be starter day one or I'll transfer........ to Michigan..

    No the running game beat up Wisconsin and Alabama. He completes 58% in college, he is no where near a pro-QB but he does wear an Ohio St jersey

    @baconhound said:

    No the running game beat up Wisconsin and Alabama. He completes 58% in college, he is no where near a pro-QB but he does wear an Ohio St jersey

    He's also from Cleveland, so he must be GREAT!

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Here are a couple guys that fit my mold for a Browns QB and both could be good late round picks for a development project.

    #1) Sean Mannion...Oregon St....6'-5" -220 lbs....rocket arm AND some smarts....broke all of DA's records...he's my favorite and could be had for a mid to late round pick I think(4-5-6 ish)

    Heres one of his game tapes....

    #2) Connor Halliday....Washington State....6'-4"....200lbs....monster arm...excellent ability to read D's....needs some fine tuning and a little meat on dem bones.....another good project....hate to mention DA again, but kinda like DA physically

    Here's a good game tape of him breaking the NCAA passing record....nice!

    I think both these guys looks like good values in the later rounds....AND they have all the measurables....

  • Great call Mudfly but Farmer's comments in the post-season presser that he doesn't believe in measureables scares me.

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