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  • The right quarterback pick in the last draft would have put the club in a really good position right now. As it is we again have a huge quarterback issue going into next season. We can't afford what it would cost to pick up Mariota, we have to improve both our offensive and defensive lines. It would have been nice to have seen JM taking this season more seriously and to have worked harder to improve his play. Connor Shaw looked more confident and in control of the offense than JM and Shaw never had the opportunity all season to work with the offense like JM.

    Hoyer may be gone soon and I personally see him as our best hope for a good season this year. The other options I see as a lot less promising of drafting a QB and the time it would take to develop, Manziel living up to his hype, or a bringing in a veteran quarterback.

  • Don't care right now. Glad the season is over.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • X fortunately I think the Browns have a little too much pride to realize this.if the only two quarterbacks on the Browns roster was Brian Hoyer and Conner Shaw with the same record attitudes towards this team would be much more positive. plus the Browns would have way more options going forward at the quarterback position. they could re-sign Hoyer and have the ability to draft any quarterback in any round of the draft and people would be pumped.

    unfortunately they're going to let the guy that is obviously 100% better than Johnny Manziel walk and probably rig free agency by bringing in a veteran thatin their own mind justify starting Menzel week 1. believe it or not I am NOT looking forward to the 2015 Brown's campaign. and that in itself is complete bullshit after the steps this team made this year

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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  • Thread merge alert!

    Seriously, Z... nothing new here.

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    Z 1 Reply

  • Who knows. The Johnny train may not have derailed, but it is wobbling for sure.

    Guess we will find out by the end of August at the earliest, end of Oct. at the latest.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Thread merge alert!

    Seriously, Z... nothing new here.

    @tour2ma said:

    Thread merge alert!

    Seriously, Z... nothing new here.

    Just trying to get a growl out of Westside Steve, but he must have a gig.

    Zombo

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • maybe this might do it.

    i know the season is over but THIS is funny. guess his popularity is running a little low nowadays........even in texas.

    http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/01/05/johnny-manziel-drinks-thrown-at-qb-at-houston-nightclub

    tmz sports. lol.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    maybe this might do it.

    i know the season is over but THIS is funny. guess his popularity is running a little low nowadays........even in texas.

    http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/01/05/johnny-manziel-drinks-thrown-at-qb-at-houston-nightclub

    tmz sports. lol.

    @miktoxic said:

    maybe this might do it.

    i know the season is over but THIS is funny. guess his popularity is running a little low nowadays........even in texas.

    http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/01/05/johnny-manziel-drinks-thrown-at-qb-at-houston-nightclub

    tmz sports. lol.

    Really? I mean really?

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
    miktoxicM 1 Reply

  • Cut this douche

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @miktoxic said:

    maybe this might do it.

    i know the season is over but THIS is funny. guess his popularity is running a little low nowadays........even in texas.

    http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/01/05/johnny-manziel-drinks-thrown-at-qb-at-houston-nightclub

    tmz sports. lol.

    Really? I mean really?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Really? I mean really?

    really.

    i mean if i were the embarrassment of a franchise (if not the league) and i was serious about turning myself around and becoming a legit nfl QB i think i'd be in the first QB camp there was, i'd be with my QB guru the day after i cleaned out my locker and i'd be doing a 'rocky' for the 6 months leading up to training camp.

    but no. let's go out to a club where everyone will recognize me and my face will be splattered all over the internet even though i know i'm skating on thin ice with the team that drafted me.

    i'm betting this is going to be the ongoing theme throughout the offseason as manziel thinks he has the tools already and doesn't have to work for it OR he just doesn't give a shit. or both.

    or maybe his end game is he wants out of cleveland.

  • i don't think its Cleveland. its him

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    i don't think its Cleveland. its him

    @lbc-mike said:

    i don't think its Cleveland. its him

    but with this type of behavior, i think there is a plan. out of all his other shortcomings (hee hee) being stupid is not one.

    he could be shoving this in ownership's face in order for him to get traded or cut, hoping that one of the texas teams will bite. therefore getting him home and into an even bigger media circus where his brand will only grow.

    his stock is only going to continue to drop in cleveland if he doesn't turn it around....and fast. and by all accounts he just doesn't give a fuck.

  • You know, I'm really starting to think he really is trying to get out of Cleveland, by whatever means necessary.

    Because nobody is this stupid, right?

    Right?!?

    T 1 Reply

  • Nope, just laying back. You haven't been ridiculous.

    I'll have some more thoughts tomorrow but basically he looks terrible against Cincinnati. I think anyone who cares to be fair they would admit the entire team really did look horrible.

    Brian Hoyer looked just as bad the game before when our defense shut down Andrew Luck and gave him two touchdowns.

    WSS

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    miktoxicM 1 Reply

  • Shut outs are rare. Even for the Brown's.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • W Westside Steve

    Nope, just laying back. You haven't been ridiculous.

    I'll have some more thoughts tomorrow but basically he looks terrible against Cincinnati. I think anyone who cares to be fair they would admit the entire team really did look horrible.

    Brian Hoyer looked just as bad the game before when our defense shut down Andrew Luck and gave him two touchdowns.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Nope, just laying back. You haven't been ridiculous.

    I'll have some more thoughts tomorrow but basically he looks terrible against Cincinnati. I think anyone who cares to be fair they would admit the entire team really did look horrible.

    Brian Hoyer looked just as bad the game before when our defense shut down Andrew Luck and gave him two touchdowns.

    WSS

    at this point it's got nothing to do with the past season or what brian hoyer did. it's about what manziel continues to do. and when it comes to training and going to the next level to become a nfl qb he is doing nothing.

  • In his mind, he worked really hard this season. He had to show up to an actual job every day on time, and he couldn't even handle that much. He 100% believes he earned his vacay and is going to enjoy every second of it.

    This incident is much ado about nothing, but when you compound it with everything else he has done and said, its going to be blown out of proportion. Sooner or later this kind of thing is going to turn into something ugly. Whether it's his direct doing or just because hes an easy target now. His level of play is not worth all the headache that comes with him. Course, I knew this back in May.

  • Just when u think Denver reachin for Tebow is as dumb as it goes.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • Flush the turds. Gordon and manziel need to go. We don't want them influencing the rookies coming in from the draft.

  • Manziel doesn't want to be here and Pettine doesn't want him here.

    Farmer has a huge mark against him drafting him (as it stands) and Gilbert first round. It could have been Beckham and Bridgewater for god sake.

    Haslam sold his shirts so I guess he's happy enough.

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