Jonathan Paul Manziel
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As I'd say publicly and privately you have my respect sir.
WSS
You bitches need to get a room.
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The great Santini:
"God why did you have to put so many assholes on the earth, all at the same time?"
WSS
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The great Santini:
"God why did you have to put so many assholes on the earth, all at the same time?"
WSS
The great Santini:
"God why did you have to put so many assholes on the earth, all at the same time?"
WSS
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@junkyard-dawg said:
Nice hypocrisy.
Thanks, I always strive to be the best I can be at all things.
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see? something like this from our supposed future 'franchise'..
yeah. GTFO.
any reports of where manziel will be training besides hooters?
suck on that you manziel lovers.
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Manziel going to be working that poontang all off season.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
"I never liked Manziel as a prospect."
That tainted the article which is another in a long line of self serving I told you so's.
One thing I think he failed to get a real handle on is JF's missing meetings. If I'm the Browns FO I insist to JF that if he wants a future in this organization, then he will be required to attend alcohol education classes. You can do this without calling someone an alcoholic since true ones go right to denial anyway. But you can insist he learn that if alcohol has caused you problems such as oversleeping, failure to set alarms, missing work or rehab. etc., then you have a problem with alcohol. It is much harder to deny it has caused you problems than it is to deny alcoholism. It's a tactic I took often with people in a 30 year counseling career. Best thing is you use no labels such as "addict", "alcoholic" etc. and stick to the facts of what problems it has caused in a person's life.
@everlastingxxx said:
tldr
Premature ejaculators, opps i mean evaluators.
I agree, the sample size is small.
"I never liked Manziel as a prospect."
That tainted the article which is another in a long line of self serving I told you so's.
One thing I think he failed to get a real handle on is JF's missing meetings. If I'm the Browns FO I insist to JF that if he wants a future in this organization, then he will be required to attend alcohol education classes. You can do this without calling someone an alcoholic since true ones go right to denial anyway. But you can insist he learn that if alcohol has caused you problems such as oversleeping, failure to set alarms, missing work or rehab. etc., then you have a problem with alcohol. It is much harder to deny it has caused you problems than it is to deny alcoholism. It's a tactic I took often with people in a 30 year counseling career. Best thing is you use no labels such as "addict", "alcoholic" etc. and stick to the facts of what problems it has caused in a person's life.
It's getting to the point Manziel is going to have to decide if he wants to be a football player, or a TMZ celebrity. Because if he keeps up the partying he's going to be a down in the dumpster Brittany Spears type of celebrity.
Who knows. The Johnny train may not have derailed, but it is wobbling for sure.
Guess we will find out by the end of August at the earliest, end of Oct. at the latest.
I disagree 'Peen. We will know by April 30th (NFL draft) how much Manziel is committed to being a starting NFL qb. Farmer put him on notice. "Talk is cheap". You going to the voluntary workouts, getting with a qb guru (btw, your last one didn't help you much)- or keep showing up in Nightclubs (courtesy of TMZ tracking you) every other day? If it's the latter, why should the Browns commit to you- if you're not 100% committed to getting better- and the Bengals game showed there's plenty of room for improvement.
really.
i mean if i were the embarrassment of a franchise (if not the league) and i was serious about turning myself around and becoming a legit nfl QB i think i'd be in the first QB camp there was, i'd be with my QB guru the day after i cleaned out my locker and i'd be doing a 'rocky' for the 6 months leading up to training camp.
but no. let's go out to a club where everyone will recognize me and my face will be splattered all over the internet even though i know i'm skating on thin ice with the team that drafted me.
i'm betting this is going to be the ongoing theme throughout the offseason as manziel thinks he has the tools already and doesn't have to work for it OR he just doesn't give a shit. or both.
or maybe his end game is he wants out of Cleveland.
If it's arrogance, or not caring- the Browns have to have a plan "B" if that's the case, by bringing in an experience vet, or drafting yet another qb- yup, even in the first round if they have to. As I said above, they'll know all they need to know about Johnny's commitment (or lack of) well before the draft.
I've seen that suggested elsewhere Mik about Manziel wanting out- but MHO it would be pretty irrational behavior, deliberately sabotaging his "brand". I have to think Le Bron would have seen enough of his antics to tell him to get his act together.
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Manziel going to be working that poontang all off season.
Manziel going to be working that poontang all off season.
you are the best my friend. hardcore 'til the end.
VesnaKociper said:
Manziel is an alcoholic? Please, don't insult alcoholics.
and to add a zinger at the end of the night......HA!
I agree, the sample size is small.
It's getting to the point Manziel is going to have to decide if he wants to be a football player, or a TMZ celebrity. Because if he keeps up the partying he's going to be a down in the dumpster Brittany Spears type of celebrity.
I disagree 'Peen. We will know by April 30th (NFL draft) how much Manziel is committed to being a starting NFL qb. Farmer put him on notice. "Talk is cheap". You going to the voluntary workouts, getting with a qb guru (btw, your last one didn't help you much)- or keep showing up in Nightclubs (courtesy of TMZ tracking you) every other day? If it's the latter, why should the Browns commit to you- if you're not 100% committed to getting better- and the Bengals game showed there's plenty of room for improvement.
If it's arrogance, or not caring- the Browns have to have a plan "B" if that's the case, by bringing in an experience vet, or drafting yet another qb- yup, even in the first round if they have to. As I said above, they'll know all they need to know about Johnny's commitment (or lack of) well before the draft.
I've seen that suggested elsewhere Mik about Manziel wanting out- but MHO it would be pretty irrational behavior, deliberately sabotaging his "brand". I have to think Le Bron would have seen enough of his antics to tell him to get his act together.
hoorta, the midnite manager with the voice of reason once again...
don't know what johnny wants, but i'm pretty sure he's use to getting his way.
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see? something like this from our supposed future 'franchise'..
yeah. GTFO.
any reports of where manziel will be training besides hooters?
suck on that you manziel lovers.
see? something like this from our supposed future 'franchise'..
yeah. GTFO.
any reports of where manziel will be training besides hooters?
suck on that you manziel lovers.
He has already stated he will be working out with George Whitfield again in the off season.
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see? something like this from our supposed future 'franchise'..
yeah. GTFO.
any reports of where manziel will be training besides hooters?
suck on that you manziel lovers.
He has already stated he will be working out with George Whitfield again in the off season.
He has already stated he will be working out with George Whitfield again in the off season.
He has? Where?
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see? something like this from our supposed future 'franchise'..
yeah. GTFO.
any reports of where manziel will be training besides hooters?
suck on that you manziel lovers.
He has already stated he will be working out with George Whitfield again in the off season.
He has already stated he will be working out with George Whitfield again in the off season.
when does that start? in may?
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@everlastingxxx said:
tldr
Premature ejaculators, opps i mean evaluators.
I agree, the sample size is small.
"I never liked Manziel as a prospect."
That tainted the article which is another in a long line of self serving I told you so's.
One thing I think he failed to get a real handle on is JF's missing meetings. If I'm the Browns FO I insist to JF that if he wants a future in this organization, then he will be required to attend alcohol education classes. You can do this without calling someone an alcoholic since true ones go right to denial anyway. But you can insist he learn that if alcohol has caused you problems such as oversleeping, failure to set alarms, missing work or rehab. etc., then you have a problem with alcohol. It is much harder to deny it has caused you problems than it is to deny alcoholism. It's a tactic I took often with people in a 30 year counseling career. Best thing is you use no labels such as "addict", "alcoholic" etc. and stick to the facts of what problems it has caused in a person's life.
It's getting to the point Manziel is going to have to decide if he wants to be a football player, or a TMZ celebrity. Because if he keeps up the partying he's going to be a down in the dumpster Brittany Spears type of celebrity.
Who knows. The Johnny train may not have derailed, but it is wobbling for sure.
Guess we will find out by the end of August at the earliest, end of Oct. at the latest.
I disagree 'Peen. We will know by April 30th (NFL draft) how much Manziel is committed to being a starting NFL qb. Farmer put him on notice. "Talk is cheap". You going to the voluntary workouts, getting with a qb guru (btw, your last one didn't help you much)- or keep showing up in Nightclubs (courtesy of TMZ tracking you) every other day? If it's the latter, why should the Browns commit to you- if you're not 100% committed to getting better- and the Bengals game showed there's plenty of room for improvement.
really.
i mean if i were the embarrassment of a franchise (if not the league) and i was serious about turning myself around and becoming a legit nfl QB i think i'd be in the first QB camp there was, i'd be with my QB guru the day after i cleaned out my locker and i'd be doing a 'rocky' for the 6 months leading up to training camp.
but no. let's go out to a club where everyone will recognize me and my face will be splattered all over the internet even though i know i'm skating on thin ice with the team that drafted me.
i'm betting this is going to be the ongoing theme throughout the offseason as manziel thinks he has the tools already and doesn't have to work for it OR he just doesn't give a shit. or both.
or maybe his end game is he wants out of Cleveland.
If it's arrogance, or not caring- the Browns have to have a plan "B" if that's the case, by bringing in an experience vet, or drafting yet another qb- yup, even in the first round if they have to. As I said above, they'll know all they need to know about Johnny's commitment (or lack of) well before the draft.
I've seen that suggested elsewhere Mik about Manziel wanting out- but MHO it would be pretty irrational behavior, deliberately sabotaging his "brand". I have to think Le Bron would have seen enough of his antics to tell him to get his act together.
I have to think Le Bron would have seen enough of his antics to tell him to get his act together.
Yeah... where is James in all of this?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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i'd have a sore muscle too if i had all his money.
my third leg sore muscle.
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lol...
and JM's dream is "doing two chicks at once."
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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