does character count?
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I don't think Mike Vick would help the team. The rapist would be better suited for making this team a contender.
I don't think Mike Vick would help the team. The rapist would be better suited for making this team a contender.
Ahhh, which one?
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I wouldn't take the deal.....to me, character matters a lot....bottom line is that I dont want to cheer for schmucks (even in Brown & Orange)
Consider the distractions, rifts, debates & negative attention we endured this season with JG and JFF, then multiply it many times over.....
THAT is what this deal would bring us......
And, with our luck, if we got to the AFC Championship, some of these guys wouldn't even show up because they'd be in jail or something
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I know it's cool to make fun of Mike Vick, but apparenlty he made quite a tranformation in prison, and came out on the other side a better man.
Instead of filing chapter 11 when bankrupt, he actually repaid (almost all) of his debts. He could have filed chapter 11 and said FU to his debt holders, but did the right thing.
http://acculturated.com/michael-vick-pays-his-debts/
As for AP, while not condoning the "switching", I know several friends that had that type of discipline at home, and they never described themselves as abused, or were abusive to their children. I'm not aghast at AP the way the PC police want us to be.
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I don't think Mike Vick would help the team. The rapist would be better suited for making this team a contender.
Ahhh, which one?
Ahhh, which one?
I was talking about Roethlisberger, but now that I think about it Winston would also be a better option.
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Actually I think Michael Vick is the worst of the four. Torturing animals to death kidnapping peoples pets to murder them while you and your thug buddies jerk off to it is sick.
(think about it, if it was your dog tied to a tree while pitbulls tore him apart and Mike Vick and a bunch of drunk punks stood around yapping and laughing like a pack of wild apes)
Still the rest are pretty unsavory. I don't hate Adrian Peterson for switching his kid, I've been switched. Still beating a kid to a bloody mess is a little over the line. And I'm sure Rices girlfriend knew what kind of situation she signed on for. And when thugs get together thugs can get shot.
But fuck them.
Still as much as I enjoy my Cleveland Browns there's a limit as to the kind of people I will cheer for.
WSS
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Just a hypothetical. Was talking with a buddy a couple of weeks back about this and wondered how you guys felt.
The genie makes you an offer. We sign Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis and Michael Vick and the Browns will be favored to win the AFC Championship Game. Do you take that deal or do you stand pat?
WSS
Just a hypothetical. Was talking with a buddy a couple of weeks back about this and wondered how you guys felt.
The genie makes you an offer. We sign Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis and Michael Vick and the Browns will be favored to win the AFC Championship Game. Do you take that deal or do you stand pat?
WSS
No way. Let's do it our way with our guys.
I think forgiveness is in order for these guys, but I wouldn't want them.
Ben beats us like a red headed stepchild most years but I am truly glad he is not a Brown, and I mean that when I say it.
Not looking for choir boys ... but murder cover-up, rape, dog-killing ... no thanks.
Zombo
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Actually I think Michael Vick is the worst of the four. Torturing animals to death kidnapping peoples pets to murder them while you and your thug buddies jerk off to it is sick.
(think about it, if it was your dog tied to a tree while pitbulls tore him apart and Mike Vick and a bunch of drunk punks stood around yapping and laughing like a pack of wild apes)
Still the rest are pretty unsavory. I don't hate Adrian Peterson for switching his kid, I've been switched. Still beating a kid to a bloody mess is a little over the line. And I'm sure Rices girlfriend knew what kind of situation she signed on for. And when thugs get together thugs can get shot.
But fuck them.
Still as much as I enjoy my Cleveland Browns there's a limit as to the kind of people I will cheer for.
WSS
Actually I think Michael Vick is the worst of the four. Torturing animals to death kidnapping peoples pets to murder them while you and your thug buddies jerk off to it is sick.
(think about it, if it was your dog tied to a tree while pitbulls tore him apart and Mike Vick and a bunch of drunk punks stood around yapping and laughing like a pack of wild apes)
Still the rest are pretty unsavory. I don't hate Adrian Peterson for switching his kid, I've been switched. Still beating a kid to a bloody mess is a little over the line. And I'm sure Rices girlfriend knew what kind of situation she signed on for. And when thugs get together thugs can get shot.
But fuck them.
Still as much as I enjoy my Cleveland Browns there's a limit as to the kind of people I will cheer for.
WSS
wait a sec, he kidnapped other people's animals? or was that and your jerk off comment hyperbole?
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No if all in one package.
I don't condone what ap did but he was trying to discipline his kid.
The other are just plain scum. Football is a game and entertainment. I don't see myself enjoying rooting for scum.
Although we have no impact on the players we get, I'd prefer not to deal with those types.
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Just a hypothetical. Was talking with a buddy a couple of weeks back about this and wondered how you guys felt.
The genie makes you an offer. We sign Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis and Michael Vick and the Browns will be favored to win the AFC Championship Game. Do you take that deal or do you stand pat?
WSS
We sign Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis and Michael Vick and the Browns will be favored to win the AFC Championship Game. Do you take that deal or do you stand pat?
I do not see all four the same.
I do not think "character" is an unchanging, "either you have it or you don't" quality.
Two have gone through the criminal process and seem to have emerged as better men.
Two are still in embroiled in their failings and I have no idea whether they are as yet, or ever will be, better men.
So if the deal all or none... then none. But if I can choose, then I have a new QB and ILB.
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Actually I think Michael Vick is the worst of the four. Torturing animals to death kidnapping peoples pets to murder them while you and your thug buddies jerk off to it is sick.
(think about it, if it was your dog tied to a tree while pitbulls tore him apart and Mike Vick and a bunch of drunk punks stood around yapping and laughing like a pack of wild apes)
Still the rest are pretty unsavory. I don't hate Adrian Peterson for switching his kid, I've been switched. Still beating a kid to a bloody mess is a little over the line. And I'm sure Rices girlfriend knew what kind of situation she signed on for. And when thugs get together thugs can get shot.
But fuck them.
Still as much as I enjoy my Cleveland Browns there's a limit as to the kind of people I will cheer for.
WSS
wait a sec, he kidnapped other people's animals? or was that and your jerk off comment hyperbole?
No. Part of it included kidnapping folks pets (or adopting under shitty pretenses) for training purposes. The jerking off is hyperbole. I have no idea if any of them did anything besides laugh and cheer.wait a sec, he kidnapped other people's animals? or was that and your jerk off comment hyperbole?
WSS
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Just a hypothetical. Was talking with a buddy a couple of weeks back about this and wondered how you guys felt.
The genie makes you an offer. We sign Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis and Michael Vick and the Browns will be favored to win the AFC Championship Game. Do you take that deal or do you stand pat?
WSS
Just a hypothetical. Was talking with a buddy a couple of weeks back about this and wondered how you guys felt.
The genie makes you an offer. We sign Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis and Michael Vick and the Browns will be favored to win the AFC Championship Game. Do you take that deal or do you stand pat?
WSS
Why would we need Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice?
Or how about including OJ Simpson and Rae Carruth in the mix?
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Jeez I really don't think the hypothetical was that hard to understand.
Apparently so.
at least some of you guys figured it out.
WSS
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NO.
That doesn't fix our qb situation, and I'm tried of kids trying to look up
to players, only to find out they are child beaters, rapists, assaulters, and
sick sumbeeches.
NO. Because you can't be sure they will even be on the field all season, and you're
worse off than before.
NO.
Next question....
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Jeez I really don't think the hypothetical was that hard to understand.
Apparently so.
at least some of you guys figured it out.
WSS
Jeez I really don't think the hypothetical was that hard to understand.
Apparently so.
WSS
The hypothetical is not hard to understand......but the answer(s) to it can be very difficult.
You know.....like your favorite test: how much would you charge to swallow my sperm? Easy question, not hard to comprehend at all.....but a very difficult answer
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Just a hypothetical. Was talking with a buddy a couple of weeks back about this and wondered how you guys felt.
The genie makes you an offer. We sign Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis and Michael Vick and the Browns will be favored to win the AFC Championship Game. Do you take that deal or do you stand pat?
WSS
Why would we need Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice?
Or how about including OJ Simpson and Rae Carruth in the mix?
Why would we need Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice?
Or how about including OJ Simpson and Rae Carruth in the mix?
Because I thought I had enough examples to make the point of the hypothetical.
I think you might be the only guy that didn't get it.
WSS
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Why would we need Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice?
Or how about including OJ Simpson and Rae Carruth in the mix?
Because I thought I had enough examples to make the point of the hypothetical.
I think you might be the only guy that didn't get it.
WSS
Because I thought I had enough examples to make the point of the hypothetical.
I think you might be the only guy that didn't get it.
WSS
No, I got the hypothetical. I just don't think that a simple yes/no answer would suffice.
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Because I thought I had enough examples to make the point of the hypothetical.
I think you might be the only guy that didn't get it.
WSS
No, I got the hypothetical. I just don't think that a simple yes/no answer would suffice.
its a yes or no question. You can answer it yes or no and then pile on a big bunch of other shit if you want to but would you take the deal or not? That's all I asked.No, I got the hypothetical. I just don't think that a simple yes/no answer would suffice.
WSS
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I would like to extend an olive branch to Michael Vick. He is welcome to enter my containment pens, unarmed and introduce himself to my animals. If his intentions are such, to make friends, I will even provide a ham hock necklace. I'll gladly clean the pens when he is done.
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