New OC again!
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I don't think it's the end of the world either way, but with the QB situation still up in the air that makes it even less concerning.
TCPO what makes you certain this is a key sign Haslam's so involved?
I don't think it's the end of the world either way, but with the QB situation still up in the air that makes it even less concerning.
TCPO what makes you certain this is a key sign Haslam's so involved?
Mostly this.
Cleveland.com reported one source as saying some coaches became angered when play calls were recently requested or suggested via text from the press box by a high-ranking non-coaching staff member. The disconnect also stems from a belief that the front office placed clear, although indirect, pressure to have Manziel play, a source close to the situation has told ESPN.com. That pressure never came in the form of an order but was tangible and increased as the season went on.
The disconnect also stems from a belief that the front office placed clear, although indirect, pressure to have Manziel play, a source close to the situation has told ESPN.com. That pressure never came in the form of an order but was tangible and increased as the season went on.
Although not every offensive coach was solidly in Brian Hoyer's corner, the offensive staff is unhappy and disillusioned over the pressure about Manziel from non-football people and the way the season ended, the source told ESPN.com.
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Link?
I just did a Google search on my android. Two words. Marc Trestman. At least five or six hits about him and Jacksonville and some quarterback down there seeing on the beach or some shit. Try it.
WSS
I just did a Google search on my android. Two words. Marc Trestman. At least five or six hits about him and Jacksonville and some quarterback down there seeing on the beach or some shit. Try it.
WSS
I, of course, googled the wife.
Nice milfy wife and a couple young daughters for Johnny to permanently scar:
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@everlastingxxx said:
Browns are a mess. Makes me ask the question, is Pettine an issue too?
Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone.
Shanny won't be without a job for long.
For what its worth according to Rotoworld Shanny was never a Manziel fan
A source tells FOX Sports that the Browns are "parting ways" with OC Kyle Shanahan.
The dysfunction that has plagued Cleveland's organization for the last 15 years continues. Just one year after landing a talented game-planner and offensive schemer, the Browns lose Shanahan on the heels of a disastrous Johnny Manziel pick and reports of "friction" between the coaches and the front office. Shanny (who was never on Team Manziel) reportedly asked for his release and was granted it, while quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains was canned Thursday. Shanahan, who will interview for the Bills' head coaching vacancy Thursday and has been linked to the 49ers' vacancy, won't hurt for other offers. Seahawks DC Dan Quinn wants him as his offensive coordinator if he lands a job and there are also rumors of three teams interested in Mike and Kyle as a package deal. The next Browns' OC will be their ninth since 2006. -
@everlastingxxx said:
Browns are a mess. Makes me ask the question, is Pettine an issue too?
Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone.
Shanny won't be without a job for long.
For what its worth according to Rotoworld Shanny was never a Manziel fan
A source tells FOX Sports that the Browns are "parting ways" with OC Kyle Shanahan.
The dysfunction that has plagued Cleveland's organization for the last 15 years continues. Just one year after landing a talented game-planner and offensive schemer, the Browns lose Shanahan on the heels of a disastrous Johnny Manziel pick and reports of "friction" between the coaches and the front office. Shanny (who was never on Team Manziel) reportedly asked for his release and was granted it, while quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains was canned Thursday. Shanahan, who will interview for the Bills' head coaching vacancy Thursday and has been linked to the 49ers' vacancy, won't hurt for other offers. Seahawks DC Dan Quinn wants him as his offensive coordinator if he lands a job and there are also rumors of three teams interested in Mike and Kyle as a package deal. The next Browns' OC will be their ninth since 2006.For what its worth according to Rotoworld Shanny was never a Manziel fan
A source tells FOX Sports that the Browns are "parting ways" with OC Kyle Shanahan.
The dysfunction that has plagued Cleveland's organization for the last 15 years continues. Just one year after landing a talented game-planner and offensive schemer, the Browns lose Shanahan on the heels of a disastrous Johnny Manziel pick and reports of "friction" between the coaches and the front office. Shanny (who was never on Team Manziel) reportedly asked for his release and was granted it, while quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains was canned Thursday. Shanahan, who will interview for the Bills' head coaching vacancy Thursday and has been linked to the 49ers' vacancy, won't hurt for other offers. Seahawks DC Dan Quinn wants him as his offensive coordinator if he lands a job and there are also rumors of three teams interested in Mike and Kyle as a package deal. The next Browns' OC will be their ninth since 2006.And here's the list of NFL people that are Manziel fans:
Zombo
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Hahah!! Great thread!
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One of my customers has offered me a very nice position several times. The position would entail a nice salary increase, less travel and would be perceived by most as a step up. Why haven't I taken it? They have been my account for about 10 years. I have yet to see anyone survive that or any other management position with them for more than 2 years.
My point? Why in the hell would any good OC want to come here?
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@everlastingxxx said:
Come on Zombo, thats not cool.
Maybe... but doesn't mean it's not funny as shit.
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#TeamTrestman
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The way I see it, good riddance to Shannyflimflam and the big qb coach fiasco.
They had months to get Broadway Flop Johnny ready to at least play like
he wasn't suffering the shakes on the field.
Epic disaster.
This GM might make a mistake, but by golly, the Man fixes em. That's the way you build.
Marc Trestman, I like that idea a lot.
I don't see Johnny changing until he is gone and to another team and hits bottom.
Too bad. I like Grayson in the draft.
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This news is HUGE for Manziel.
He might not know it but his biggest supporter is now gone.
His days as a starting QB is probably gone.
Keep on partying...
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One of my customers has offered me a very nice position several times. The position would entail a nice salary increase, less travel and would be perceived by most as a step up. Why haven't I taken it? They have been my account for about 10 years. I have yet to see anyone survive that or any other management position with them for more than 2 years.
My point? Why in the hell would any good OC want to come here?
One of my customers has offered me a very nice position several times. The position would entail a nice salary increase, less travel and would be perceived by most as a step up. Why haven't I taken it? They have been my account for about 10 years. I have yet to see anyone survive that or any other management position with them for more than 2 years.
My point? Why in the hell would any good OC want to come here?
The key is to leave before the nail you into the coffin.
Take the job then plan the exit strategy. Well play by Shanny.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Browns are a mess. Makes me ask the question, is Pettine an issue too?
Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone.
Shanny won't be without a job for long.
For what its worth according to Rotoworld Shanny was never a Manziel fan
A source tells FOX Sports that the Browns are "parting ways" with OC Kyle Shanahan.
The dysfunction that has plagued Cleveland's organization for the last 15 years continues. Just one year after landing a talented game-planner and offensive schemer, the Browns lose Shanahan on the heels of a disastrous Johnny Manziel pick and reports of "friction" between the coaches and the front office. Shanny (who was never on Team Manziel) reportedly asked for his release and was granted it, while quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains was canned Thursday. Shanahan, who will interview for the Bills' head coaching vacancy Thursday and has been linked to the 49ers' vacancy, won't hurt for other offers. Seahawks DC Dan Quinn wants him as his offensive coordinator if he lands a job and there are also rumors of three teams interested in Mike and Kyle as a package deal. The next Browns' OC will be their ninth since 2006.For what its worth according to Rotoworld Shanny was never a Manziel fan
A source tells FOX Sports that the Browns are "parting ways" with OC Kyle Shanahan.
The dysfunction that has plagued Cleveland's organization for the last 15 years continues. Just one year after landing a talented game-planner and offensive schemer, the Browns lose Shanahan on the heels of a disastrous Johnny Manziel pick and reports of "friction" between the coaches and the front office. Shanny (who was never on Team Manziel) reportedly asked for his release and was granted it, while quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains was canned Thursday. Shanahan, who will interview for the Bills' head coaching vacancy Thursday and has been linked to the 49ers' vacancy, won't hurt for other offers. Seahawks DC Dan Quinn wants him as his offensive coordinator if he lands a job and there are also rumors of three teams interested in Mike and Kyle as a package deal. The next Browns' OC will be their ninth since 2006.Why was Shanny slobbering on his knob talking about how exciting Johnny is about the week before we made the switch.
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For what its worth according to Rotoworld Shanny was never a Manziel fan
A source tells FOX Sports that the Browns are "parting ways" with OC Kyle Shanahan.
The dysfunction that has plagued Cleveland's organization for the last 15 years continues. Just one year after landing a talented game-planner and offensive schemer, the Browns lose Shanahan on the heels of a disastrous Johnny Manziel pick and reports of "friction" between the coaches and the front office. Shanny (who was never on Team Manziel) reportedly asked for his release and was granted it, while quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains was canned Thursday. Shanahan, who will interview for the Bills' head coaching vacancy Thursday and has been linked to the 49ers' vacancy, won't hurt for other offers. Seahawks DC Dan Quinn wants him as his offensive coordinator if he lands a job and there are also rumors of three teams interested in Mike and Kyle as a package deal. The next Browns' OC will be their ninth since 2006.Why was Shanny slobbering on his knob talking about how exciting Johnny is about the week before we made the switch.
Why was Shanny slobbering on his knob talking about how exciting Johnny is about the week before we made the switch.
I dont know...but MY memory was there were early rumors(that continued thru the season) to the effect of pettine being a hoyer lover and shanny wanting jff
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@everlastingxxx said:
Shows a lack of class.
I am usually more in the boat of Zombo and you and I don't see eye to eye on some things (mostly Johnny). I am with you on this one. There are a lot of damn good regular joe looking folks out there. No need to go there. I am sure overall Zombo didnt mean it to be harmful.
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Where are all of those Aggie motherfuckers who swarmed this board a couple months ago claiming to be Browns "fans" I'd like to hear who they think can bring out Johnny Fuckboy's true potential.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Shows a lack of class.
I am usually more in the boat of Zombo and you and I don't see eye to eye on some things (mostly Johnny). I am with you on this one. There are a lot of damn good regular joe looking folks out there. No need to go there. I am sure overall Zombo didnt mean it to be harmful.
I am usually more in the boat of Zombo and you and I don't see eye to eye on some things (mostly Johnny). I am with you on this one. There are a lot of damn good regular joe looking folks out there. No need to go there. I am sure overall Zombo didnt mean it to be harmful.
I didn't. Steve mentioned googling Trestman so I did some searches on him and saw the family picture. I like the milfy wife and thought I could make a joke about Johnny and the daughters. Weis is the other name being bandied about so I googled his family. I just thought the contrast was humorous.
The Weis's look like regular Joe's with a nice golden, they are probably great folks.
I sure am explaining myself a lot today. I blame Everlastingxxxslobber for that.
Zombo
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Where are all of those Aggie motherfuckers who swarmed this board a couple months ago claiming to be Browns "fans" I'd like to hear who they think can bring out Johnny Fuckboy's true potential.
Where are all of those Aggie motherfuckers who swarmed this board a couple months ago claiming to be Browns "fans" I'd like to hear who they think can bring out Johnny Fuckboy's true potential.
noooooo......really, no need to hear it....we all know.....let them stay where ever they are......pleeeeeeeeeeeeease!
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I am usually more in the boat of Zombo and you and I don't see eye to eye on some things (mostly Johnny). I am with you on this one. There are a lot of damn good regular joe looking folks out there. No need to go there. I am sure overall Zombo didnt mean it to be harmful.
I didn't. Steve mentioned googling Trestman so I did some searches on him and saw the family picture. I like the milfy wife and thought I could make a joke about Johnny and the daughters. Weis is the other name being bandied about so I googled his family. I just thought the contrast was humorous.
The Weis's look like regular Joe's with a nice golden, they are probably great folks.
I sure am explaining myself a lot today. I blame Everlastingxxxslobber for that.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I didn't. Steve mentioned googling Trestman so I did some searches on him and saw the family picture. I like the milfy wife and thought I could make a joke about Johnny and the daughters. Weis is the other name being bandied about so I googled his family. I just thought the contrast was humorous.
The Weis's look like regular Joe's with a nice golden, they are probably great folks.
I sure am explaining myself a lot today. I blame Everlastingxxxslobber for that.
Zombo
What shows you are a good dude is you took the time to answer. Thats class in my book
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