New OC again!
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And yet you're still here asshat. Go jump on the bandwagon of another team. Maybe theres some room on the Panthers bandwagon for you.
It's not that big of deal. We need a QB before we worry about who the offensive coordinator is.
Why am I an asshat? Take a step back and notice this is a recurring theme here.... but yet, people like yourself accept it as normal? What good do you think will come of the revolving door that we have? Am I wrong for being totally sick and disgusted of this team? If I speak my mind and voice my concern, I am told to jump to another team. Seriously? This team drafts the crappiest players every year, from the most opportune position. You honestly can say you have faith in what this team does? It's a disgrace man... YEAR after YEAR this team fails to make any kind of positive advancement. This team will only improve by drafting football players. Unfortunately, they take stabs in the dark instead of proven talent, and the gamble kicks them in the ass every single time. I'm glad you are satisfied and have your rose colored glasses on. The grass isn't greener in cleveland, it's been dormant for the last 7 years.
Why am I an asshat? Take a step back and notice this is a recurring theme here.... but yet, people like yourself accept it as normal? What good do you think will come of the revolving door that we have? Am I wrong for being totally sick and disgusted of this team? If I speak my mind and voice my concern, I am told to jump to another team. Seriously? This team drafts the crappiest players every year, from the most opportune position. You honestly can say you have faith in what this team does? It's a disgrace man... YEAR after YEAR this team fails to make any kind of positive advancement. This team will only improve by drafting football players. Unfortunately, they take stabs in the dark instead of proven talent, and the gamble kicks them in the ass every single time. I'm glad you are satisfied and have your rose colored glasses on. The grass isn't greener in cleveland, it's been dormant for the last 7 years.
You're an asshat because all you do is bitch and complain. Yes you're wrong for being sick and disgusted..its a fucking football team that you have no control over how it does or what happens. Get some perspective for christs sake.
And...the team did improve asshat...from 4-12 to 7-9 is improving no matter how you add it up.
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I would be o.k. with Trestman or Weis. They could help whoever ends up in here at the QB spot. Weis made Matt Cassel a pro bowl QB.
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Having Johnny as the QB may be a detriment to finding someone to take the OC job.
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i like it. no probs here.
loggains was a waste and shanny over thunk his game planning, and quite frankly, it stunk.
i like it. no probs here.
loggains was a waste and shanny over thunk his game planning, and quite frankly, it stunk.
I don't know what embarrass me more? the fact that we are going through a nother offensive system when it was working or that a dumb f*** Browns fan actually likes this turn of events wth Shanahan.
obviously Loggins was the main trigger for drafting Johnny Manziel so he got what he deserved. Biut Shanny this sucks
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I did a search for Marc Trestman and everything seems to be Jacksonville.
WSS
Link?
Link?
I just did a Google search on my android. Two words. Marc Trestman. At least five or six hits about him and Jacksonville and some quarterback down there seeing on the beach or some shit. Try it.
WSS
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I just read that if Kyle Shanahan gets the job as head coach in Buffalo he will make a deal to trade a draft pick to take Johnny Manziel with him.
Okay I didn't actually read it I heard it somewhere.
Okay I didn't actually really hear it anywhere, I just made it up.
Where do I get an application for beat reporter?
WSS
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I don't think it's the end of the world either way, but with the QB situation still up in the air that makes it even less concerning.
TCPO what makes you certain this is a key sign Haslam's so involved?
I don't think it's the end of the world either way, but with the QB situation still up in the air that makes it even less concerning.
TCPO what makes you certain this is a key sign Haslam's so involved?
Mostly this.
Cleveland.com reported one source as saying some coaches became angered when play calls were recently requested or suggested via text from the press box by a high-ranking non-coaching staff member. The disconnect also stems from a belief that the front office placed clear, although indirect, pressure to have Manziel play, a source close to the situation has told ESPN.com. That pressure never came in the form of an order but was tangible and increased as the season went on.
The disconnect also stems from a belief that the front office placed clear, although indirect, pressure to have Manziel play, a source close to the situation has told ESPN.com. That pressure never came in the form of an order but was tangible and increased as the season went on.
Although not every offensive coach was solidly in Brian Hoyer's corner, the offensive staff is unhappy and disillusioned over the pressure about Manziel from non-football people and the way the season ended, the source told ESPN.com.
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Link?
I just did a Google search on my android. Two words. Marc Trestman. At least five or six hits about him and Jacksonville and some quarterback down there seeing on the beach or some shit. Try it.
WSS
I just did a Google search on my android. Two words. Marc Trestman. At least five or six hits about him and Jacksonville and some quarterback down there seeing on the beach or some shit. Try it.
WSS
I, of course, googled the wife.
Nice milfy wife and a couple young daughters for Johnny to permanently scar:
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@everlastingxxx said:
Browns are a mess. Makes me ask the question, is Pettine an issue too?
Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone.
Shanny won't be without a job for long.
For what its worth according to Rotoworld Shanny was never a Manziel fan
A source tells FOX Sports that the Browns are "parting ways" with OC Kyle Shanahan.
The dysfunction that has plagued Cleveland's organization for the last 15 years continues. Just one year after landing a talented game-planner and offensive schemer, the Browns lose Shanahan on the heels of a disastrous Johnny Manziel pick and reports of "friction" between the coaches and the front office. Shanny (who was never on Team Manziel) reportedly asked for his release and was granted it, while quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains was canned Thursday. Shanahan, who will interview for the Bills' head coaching vacancy Thursday and has been linked to the 49ers' vacancy, won't hurt for other offers. Seahawks DC Dan Quinn wants him as his offensive coordinator if he lands a job and there are also rumors of three teams interested in Mike and Kyle as a package deal. The next Browns' OC will be their ninth since 2006. -
@everlastingxxx said:
Browns are a mess. Makes me ask the question, is Pettine an issue too?
Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone.
Shanny won't be without a job for long.
For what its worth according to Rotoworld Shanny was never a Manziel fan
A source tells FOX Sports that the Browns are "parting ways" with OC Kyle Shanahan.
The dysfunction that has plagued Cleveland's organization for the last 15 years continues. Just one year after landing a talented game-planner and offensive schemer, the Browns lose Shanahan on the heels of a disastrous Johnny Manziel pick and reports of "friction" between the coaches and the front office. Shanny (who was never on Team Manziel) reportedly asked for his release and was granted it, while quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains was canned Thursday. Shanahan, who will interview for the Bills' head coaching vacancy Thursday and has been linked to the 49ers' vacancy, won't hurt for other offers. Seahawks DC Dan Quinn wants him as his offensive coordinator if he lands a job and there are also rumors of three teams interested in Mike and Kyle as a package deal. The next Browns' OC will be their ninth since 2006.For what its worth according to Rotoworld Shanny was never a Manziel fan
A source tells FOX Sports that the Browns are "parting ways" with OC Kyle Shanahan.
The dysfunction that has plagued Cleveland's organization for the last 15 years continues. Just one year after landing a talented game-planner and offensive schemer, the Browns lose Shanahan on the heels of a disastrous Johnny Manziel pick and reports of "friction" between the coaches and the front office. Shanny (who was never on Team Manziel) reportedly asked for his release and was granted it, while quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains was canned Thursday. Shanahan, who will interview for the Bills' head coaching vacancy Thursday and has been linked to the 49ers' vacancy, won't hurt for other offers. Seahawks DC Dan Quinn wants him as his offensive coordinator if he lands a job and there are also rumors of three teams interested in Mike and Kyle as a package deal. The next Browns' OC will be their ninth since 2006.And here's the list of NFL people that are Manziel fans:
Zombo
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Hahah!! Great thread!
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One of my customers has offered me a very nice position several times. The position would entail a nice salary increase, less travel and would be perceived by most as a step up. Why haven't I taken it? They have been my account for about 10 years. I have yet to see anyone survive that or any other management position with them for more than 2 years.
My point? Why in the hell would any good OC want to come here?
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@everlastingxxx said:
Come on Zombo, thats not cool.
Maybe... but doesn't mean it's not funny as shit.
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#TeamTrestman
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The way I see it, good riddance to Shannyflimflam and the big qb coach fiasco.
They had months to get Broadway Flop Johnny ready to at least play like
he wasn't suffering the shakes on the field.
Epic disaster.
This GM might make a mistake, but by golly, the Man fixes em. That's the way you build.
Marc Trestman, I like that idea a lot.
I don't see Johnny changing until he is gone and to another team and hits bottom.
Too bad. I like Grayson in the draft.
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