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  • ThaakT Thaak

    @brownskidd said:

    So what's usually available in the 5th round besides Waterboys and Cheerleaders?

    32 players who were drafted ahead of Tom Brady?

    @thaak said:

    32 players who were drafted ahead of Tom Brady?

    So one great quarterback out of how many other players ever? Not very good odds.

    ThaakT 1 Reply
  • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

    @ithika said:

    So did Cedric Benson and he did fairly well. And I think Benson is a bum so whats that say about Lewis?

    beats me.

    Lewis was at one time a great RB, he is no longer that great RB!

    we all age friend.

    i have room for Lewis on my '09 roster, that's what i'm saying.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    beats me.

    we all age friend.

    i have room for Lewis on my '09 roster, that's what i'm saying.

    at 6.5 million?

    Slow Ur Role Jabroni!
  • W WPB Dawg Fan

    @shepwrite said:

    They're freaking tight ends. The Giants won it all AFTER Shockey. Tony Gonzales never won anything. Witten's never won a playoff game.

    They're tight ends, not quarterbacks. I hated that draft pick so much... a tight end at #7? Hell, Witten was a 2nd round pick!

    I'm not even sure who the Cardinals' TE is. I know the Steelers have Heath Miller but he ain't playing in Honolulu or anything.

    I have posted the same thing before. Name me a PREMIER TE that took his team to the SB Victory. Please.

    @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    I have posted the same thing before. Name me a PREMIER TE that took his team to the SB Victory. Please.

    Dave Casper (hall of fame) 76 Raiders

    Mark Bavaro (pro-bowl twice). Won 2 superbowls.

    Dwight Clark (2x All-Pro selection (1981, 1982) and won 2 Superbowls)

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
  • BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd

    @thaak said:

    32 players who were drafted ahead of Tom Brady?

    So one great quarterback out of how many other players ever? Not very good odds.

    @brownskidd said:

    So one great quarterback out of how many other players ever? Not very good odds.

    Oh, if I decided to do some research, I bet you could find at least 20 guys who've made multiple all-pro games from the 5th round and later. Actually, you could probably find 20 guys who are in the hall of fame and were 5th round draft picks.

  • ThaakT Thaak

    @brownskidd said:

    So one great quarterback out of how many other players ever? Not very good odds.

    Oh, if I decided to do some research, I bet you could find at least 20 guys who've made multiple all-pro games from the 5th round and later. Actually, you could probably find 20 guys who are in the hall of fame and were 5th round draft picks.

    @thaak said:

    Oh, if I decided to do some research, I bet you could find at least 20 guys who've made multiple all-pro games from the 5th round and later. Actually, you could probably find 20 guys who are in the hall of fame and were 5th round draft picks.

    And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!

    Slow Ur Role Jabroni!
    N Kosar_For_PresidentK 2 Replies
  • ITHIKAI ITHIKA

    @thaak said:

    Oh, if I decided to do some research, I bet you could find at least 20 guys who've made multiple all-pro games from the 5th round and later. Actually, you could probably find 20 guys who are in the hall of fame and were 5th round draft picks.

    And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!

    @ithika said:

    And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!

    So maybe they should just toss away all their picks after the 3rd and not even try, eh?

    BrownsKiddB ITHIKAI 2 Replies
  • N NebBrownsFan

    @ithika said:

    And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!

    So maybe they should just toss away all their picks after the 3rd and not even try, eh?

    @nebbrownsfan said:

    So maybe they should just toss away all their picks after the 3rd and not even try, eh?

    That's not the point... Example. White house says they are going to cut my taxes and give me more money in my paycheck. Then I find out that money comes to the whopping total of $13.00 bucks a paycheck. What's the point, why even bother doing it.

    We trade K2 for draft picks. This could be a good move until we find out that the one pick is 5th round next year. Yes, good players have come from their and beyond, but the odds are not in our favor.

  • N NebBrownsFan

    @ithika said:

    And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!

    So maybe they should just toss away all their picks after the 3rd and not even try, eh?

    @nebbrownsfan said:

    So maybe they should just toss away all their picks after the 3rd and not even try, eh?

    No but I would take Winslow back for that pick along with # 50! Like I said earlier the only way this is going to be easy for me to swallow is If we get a stud LB along with Greene in the second. Anything else is bull$hit!

    Slow Ur Role Jabroni!
  • ITHIKAI ITHIKA

    @thaak said:

    Oh, if I decided to do some research, I bet you could find at least 20 guys who've made multiple all-pro games from the 5th round and later. Actually, you could probably find 20 guys who are in the hall of fame and were 5th round draft picks.

    And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!

    @ithika said:

    And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!

    Terrell Davis (6th round) HOF?

    Deacon Jones (14th round) HOF

    Shannon Sharpe (7th round) HOF

    Larry Wilson (7th round)

    Roger Staubach (10th round) HOF

    Zach Thomas (5th round)

    Johnny Unitas (9th round) HOF

    Tom Fears (9th round)

    George Blanda (12th round) HOF

    Steve Largent (4th round) HOF

    Dan Lavelli (12th round by the Browns) HOF

    Earnest Byner (10th round)

    Jessie Armstead (8th round)

    Seth Joyner (8th round)

    Rodney Harrison (5th round)

    Marques Colston (7th round)

    Donald Driver (7th round)

    TJ Whosyourmam (7th round)

    Raymond Berry (20th round) HOF

    Richard Dent (8th round)

    Mark Chmura (6th round)

    Mark Brunell (5th round)

    Dorsey Levens (5th round)

    Matt Hasselbeck (6th round)

    Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (5th round)

    Matt Birk (5th round)

    Jamal "I like cocaine" Anderson (7th round)

    Larry Centers (5th round)

    Last but not least GOLDBURG (11th round), jk on that one.

    There are many, many more.

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12

  • Zombo said:

    Dwight Clark wasn't a Tight End.

    But I will throw in Shannon Sharpe three times

    Zombo

    Neither is K2. LOL, my mistake. Clark did block like one I tell ya.

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12

  • like I said before...Japer Brinkley and Shonn Greene....I'd forget about winslow if that happens!

  • ? Guest

    @flugel said:

    The ONLY team with more than 8 wins that we've beaten in the last 2 years besides Seattle was the NY Giants on a night Winslow didn't play. Kind of NICE being less predictable.

    - Tom F.

    3 picks of Eli and an extra week to prepare had a big part in that win over the G-men as well. Along with them probably being a little over confident coming into that game, after the preseason beat down.

    Masters said:

    3 picks of Eli and an extra week to prepare had a big part in that win over the G-men as well. Along with them probably being a little over confident coming into that game, after the preseason beat down.

    Good point!

    BUT check this out from our TEs that game:

    S. Heiden 5 rec 59 yds

    D. Dinkins 1 rec 22 yds 1 TD

    That didn't make Edwards have a bad night as he had 5 rec 154 Yds 1 TD

    Now look at how well we ran the ball vrs a playoff team when we had better blockign on the edge:

    Cleveland Rush Yds Avg TD

    J. Lewis 21 88 4.2 1

    J. Harrison 2 41 20.5 0

    J. Cribbs 1 12 12.0 0

    J. Wright 1 3 3.0 0

    L. Vickers 1 2 2.0 0

    There's 146 yards on the Giants and we couldn't do that vrs BAD teams when Winslow played this last season.

    - Tom F.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • FlugelF Flugel

    Masters said:

    3 picks of Eli and an extra week to prepare had a big part in that win over the G-men as well. Along with them probably being a little over confident coming into that game, after the preseason beat down.

    Good point!

    BUT check this out from our TEs that game:

    S. Heiden 5 rec 59 yds

    D. Dinkins 1 rec 22 yds 1 TD

    That didn't make Edwards have a bad night as he had 5 rec 154 Yds 1 TD

    Now look at how well we ran the ball vrs a playoff team when we had better blockign on the edge:

    Cleveland Rush Yds Avg TD

    J. Lewis 21 88 4.2 1

    J. Harrison 2 41 20.5 0

    J. Cribbs 1 12 12.0 0

    J. Wright 1 3 3.0 0

    L. Vickers 1 2 2.0 0

    There's 146 yards on the Giants and we couldn't do that vrs BAD teams when Winslow played this last season.

    - Tom F.

    @flugel said:

    Good point!

    BUT check this out from our TEs that game:

    S. Heiden 5 rec 59 yds

    D. Dinkins 1 rec 22 yds 1 TD

    That didn't make Edwards have a bad night as he had 5 rec 154 Yds 1 TD

    Now look at how well we ran the ball vrs a playoff team when we had better blockign on the edge:

    Cleveland Rush Yds Avg TD

    J. Lewis 21 88 4.2 1

    J. Harrison 2 41 20.5 0

    J. Cribbs 1 12 12.0 0

    J. Wright 1 3 3.0 0

    L. Vickers 1 2 2.0 0

    There's 146 yards on the Giants and we couldn't do that vrs BAD teams when Winslow played this last season.

    - Tom F.

    Coudln't do it against bad teams w/o Winslon either this past season. I just don't draw a lot from Winslow being out in that game a reason for good play.

    FlugelF 1 Reply

  • I just see it as Winslow wasn't going to fit in the plans and we traded a problem before it became a problem once he started getting 2-3 balls a game.

    If we got a 2nd and something else, I am good with the deal.

    Face it....Mangini wants to put his stamp on the team. That means new blood.

    Before it done, expect to see more players traded....Rogers is probably next.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ? Guest

    @brownindian said:

    im happy we are getting multiple picks with this trade. He was good but also expensive and better to get rid of him when he has value.

    We have plenty of talent at TE. The picks will def be used to sure up the roster and add depth, I think it's a good move. As long as they atleast got a 2nd / 4th.

    AdaM said:

    We have plenty of talent at TE. The picks will def be used to sure up the roster and add depth, I think it's a good move. As long as they atleast got a 2nd / 4th.

    Great move Browns dumping the slug of uselessness Kellen Winslow JR..........GREAT DAY IN BROWNS HISTORY ridding ourselves from that slug

    and if Mangini is worth a shit...........Rogers needs to go as well..........overhyped average performer in a team that cannot play the scheme

    Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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  • as a devil's advocate...Winslow has a bad knee, Bad ankle and very bad shoulder....and wants a new huge contract. I hope the pick is conditional up to 3rd next year! second this year and third next year would be a good trade!

  • R Riceloft

    I like it, if we get an early 3rd rounder or better its a good deal.

    K2 is on borrowed time with his knee issues. Might as well get something for him while we could.

    @riceloft said:

    I like it, if we get an early 3rd rounder or better its a good deal.

    K2 is on borrowed time with his knee issues. Might as well get something for him while we could.

    To me, that's what it all comes down to and is exactly why I'm perfectly fine with this trade.

    "I like to quote myself." -Me
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  • The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual

    Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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  • T Timugen

    @riceloft said:

    I like it, if we get an early 3rd rounder or better its a good deal.

    K2 is on borrowed time with his knee issues. Might as well get something for him while we could.

    To me, that's what it all comes down to and is exactly why I'm perfectly fine with this trade.

    @timugen said:

    To me, that's what it all comes down to and is exactly why I'm perfectly fine with this trade.

    Me too!

  • rich4eagleR rich4eagle

    The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual

    @rich4eagle said:

    The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual

    I agree with you here Rich; dude is one injury away from retirement...another Browns draft failure

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