WINSLOW TRADED!!
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Oh, if I decided to do some research, I bet you could find at least 20 guys who've made multiple all-pro games from the 5th round and later. Actually, you could probably find 20 guys who are in the hall of fame and were 5th round draft picks.
And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!
And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!
So maybe they should just toss away all their picks after the 3rd and not even try, eh?
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So maybe they should just toss away all their picks after the 3rd and not even try, eh?
That's not the point... Example. White house says they are going to cut my taxes and give me more money in my paycheck. Then I find out that money comes to the whopping total of $13.00 bucks a paycheck. What's the point, why even bother doing it.
We trade K2 for draft picks. This could be a good move until we find out that the one pick is 5th round next year. Yes, good players have come from their and beyond, but the odds are not in our favor.
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So maybe they should just toss away all their picks after the 3rd and not even try, eh?
No but I would take Winslow back for that pick along with # 50! Like I said earlier the only way this is going to be easy for me to swallow is If we get a stud LB along with Greene in the second. Anything else is bull$hit!
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Oh, if I decided to do some research, I bet you could find at least 20 guys who've made multiple all-pro games from the 5th round and later. Actually, you could probably find 20 guys who are in the hall of fame and were 5th round draft picks.
And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!
And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!
Terrell Davis (6th round) HOF?
Deacon Jones (14th round) HOF
Shannon Sharpe (7th round) HOF
Larry Wilson (7th round)
Roger Staubach (10th round) HOF
Zach Thomas (5th round)
Johnny Unitas (9th round) HOF
Tom Fears (9th round)
George Blanda (12th round) HOF
Steve Largent (4th round) HOF
Dan Lavelli (12th round by the Browns) HOF
Earnest Byner (10th round)
Jessie Armstead (8th round)
Seth Joyner (8th round)
Rodney Harrison (5th round)
Marques Colston (7th round)
Donald Driver (7th round)
TJ Whosyourmam (7th round)
Raymond Berry (20th round) HOF
Richard Dent (8th round)
Mark Chmura (6th round)
Mark Brunell (5th round)
Dorsey Levens (5th round)
Matt Hasselbeck (6th round)
Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (5th round)
Matt Birk (5th round)
Jamal "I like cocaine" Anderson (7th round)
Larry Centers (5th round)
Last but not least GOLDBURG (11th round), jk on that one.
There are many, many more.
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Zombo said:
Dwight Clark wasn't a Tight End.But I will throw in Shannon Sharpe three times
Zombo
Neither is K2. LOL, my mistake. Clark did block like one I tell ya.
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The ONLY team with more than 8 wins that we've beaten in the last 2 years besides Seattle was the NY Giants on a night Winslow didn't play. Kind of NICE being less predictable.
- Tom F.
3 picks of Eli and an extra week to prepare had a big part in that win over the G-men as well. Along with them probably being a little over confident coming into that game, after the preseason beat down.
Masters said:
3 picks of Eli and an extra week to prepare had a big part in that win over the G-men as well. Along with them probably being a little over confident coming into that game, after the preseason beat down.Good point!
BUT check this out from our TEs that game:
S. Heiden 5 rec 59 yds
D. Dinkins 1 rec 22 yds 1 TD
That didn't make Edwards have a bad night as he had 5 rec 154 Yds 1 TD
Now look at how well we ran the ball vrs a playoff team when we had better blockign on the edge:
Cleveland Rush Yds Avg TD
J. Lewis 21 88 4.2 1
J. Harrison 2 41 20.5 0
J. Cribbs 1 12 12.0 0
J. Wright 1 3 3.0 0
L. Vickers 1 2 2.0 0
There's 146 yards on the Giants and we couldn't do that vrs BAD teams when Winslow played this last season.
- Tom F.
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Masters said:
3 picks of Eli and an extra week to prepare had a big part in that win over the G-men as well. Along with them probably being a little over confident coming into that game, after the preseason beat down.Good point!
BUT check this out from our TEs that game:
S. Heiden 5 rec 59 yds
D. Dinkins 1 rec 22 yds 1 TD
That didn't make Edwards have a bad night as he had 5 rec 154 Yds 1 TD
Now look at how well we ran the ball vrs a playoff team when we had better blockign on the edge:
Cleveland Rush Yds Avg TD
J. Lewis 21 88 4.2 1
J. Harrison 2 41 20.5 0
J. Cribbs 1 12 12.0 0
J. Wright 1 3 3.0 0
L. Vickers 1 2 2.0 0
There's 146 yards on the Giants and we couldn't do that vrs BAD teams when Winslow played this last season.
- Tom F.
Good point!
BUT check this out from our TEs that game:
S. Heiden 5 rec 59 yds
D. Dinkins 1 rec 22 yds 1 TD
That didn't make Edwards have a bad night as he had 5 rec 154 Yds 1 TD
Now look at how well we ran the ball vrs a playoff team when we had better blockign on the edge:
Cleveland Rush Yds Avg TD
J. Lewis 21 88 4.2 1
J. Harrison 2 41 20.5 0
J. Cribbs 1 12 12.0 0
J. Wright 1 3 3.0 0
L. Vickers 1 2 2.0 0
There's 146 yards on the Giants and we couldn't do that vrs BAD teams when Winslow played this last season.
- Tom F.
Coudln't do it against bad teams w/o Winslon either this past season. I just don't draw a lot from Winslow being out in that game a reason for good play.
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I just see it as Winslow wasn't going to fit in the plans and we traded a problem before it became a problem once he started getting 2-3 balls a game.
If we got a 2nd and something else, I am good with the deal.
Face it....Mangini wants to put his stamp on the team. That means new blood.
Before it done, expect to see more players traded....Rogers is probably next.
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im happy we are getting multiple picks with this trade. He was good but also expensive and better to get rid of him when he has value.
We have plenty of talent at TE. The picks will def be used to sure up the roster and add depth, I think it's a good move. As long as they atleast got a 2nd / 4th.
AdaM said:
We have plenty of talent at TE. The picks will def be used to sure up the roster and add depth, I think it's a good move. As long as they atleast got a 2nd / 4th.Great move Browns dumping the slug of uselessness Kellen Winslow JR..........GREAT DAY IN BROWNS HISTORY ridding ourselves from that slug
and if Mangini is worth a shit...........Rogers needs to go as well..........overhyped average performer in a team that cannot play the scheme
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
I like it, if we get an early 3rd rounder or better its a good deal.
K2 is on borrowed time with his knee issues. Might as well get something for him while we could.
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The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
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The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual
The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual
I agree with you here Rich; dude is one injury away from retirement...another Browns draft failure
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The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual
I agree with you here Rich; dude is one injury away from retirement...another Browns draft failure
I agree with you here Rich; dude is one injury away from retirement...another Browns draft failure
All players are one injury away from retirement.
And Winslow is not a draft failure. He's put up top 5 TE numbers for 3 years now.
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when do we know what we got for him?
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when do we know what we got for him?
when do we know what we got for him?
Probably tonight or tomorrow.
They will likely reveal that the pick is indeed this years 2nd rounder, and next years is a conditional pick that has the potential to be a 2nd or 3rd if winslow produces.
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I agree with you here Rich; dude is one injury away from retirement...another Browns draft failure
All players are one injury away from retirement.
And Winslow is not a draft failure. He's put up top 5 TE numbers for 3 years now.
All players are one injury away from retirement.
And Winslow is not a draft failure. He's put up top 5 TE numbers for 3 years now.
True; that was not my best take...or my intent. My point is that he has been very injury prone; it is obvious that we are in rebuild mode and I am fine with someone who claimed to be a soldier (I actually WAS one; 'visitor' in Iraq) with a complete attitude problem is gone
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when do we know what we got for him?
Probably tonight or tomorrow.
They will likely reveal that the pick is indeed this years 2nd rounder, and next years is a conditional pick that has the potential to be a 2nd or 3rd if winslow produces.
AdaM said:
Probably tonight or tomorrow.They will likely reveal that the pick is indeed this years 2nd rounder, and next years is a conditional pick that has the potential to be a 2nd or 3rd if winslow produces.
According to Sirius NFL; WTAM we receive a second this year and a fifth next
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