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  • B BaconHound

    This organization is a fucking joke

    @baconhound said:

    This organization is a fucking joke

    Finally some intelligence on this forum

  • If RoosterDick and BaconHound got a room ...

    9 months later would we be welcoming "RoosterHound" or "BaconDick"?

    Zombo

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  • Z Zombo

    If RoosterDick and BaconHound got a room ...

    9 months later would we be welcoming "RoosterHound" or "BaconDick"?

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    If RoosterDick and BaconHound got a room ...

    9 months later would we be welcoming "RoosterHound" or "BaconDick"?

    Zombo

    Great minds!! Lol believe it or not I was going to pose the same question. !! Don't forget the possibility of Hounddick or Roosterbacon. Roosterbacon is lower in fat.

  • I like the move. If one of my employees made it clear to everyone that he wasn't happy working for the company, I wouldn't wait until he handed in his letter of resignation. Don't want to be here? Guess what? You're not here. And don't let the door hit you on the way out! Frankly, he was way over-rated and as we say in business, "lose an employee, my task is to find an even better replacement."

    👍

  • Shanahan has a history of screwing the pooch when it comes to helping QBs develop. Weis or Trestman can get the most out of a QB. That will be helpful to whoever we bring in to compete with Johnny Pop Warner.

  • ghoulie, i think you might have to embed the audio file or post it to a host site and then the link.

    i don't want to have to download your uki styled accordian version of 'whip it' by devo. but i'd gladly play it off the forum.

    WSS knows how to do it.

    i thought for a second you were burning the candle on both ends as the last thread you started had a picture of some guy with sardines in his hands with the caption 'we need cheerleaders'.......

    uh???

  • I guess Bears QB coach Matt Cavanaugh is a candidate for OC. He worked with Pettine at the Jets...with Sanchez as QB no less, who is going to be available.

    And his assistant at the Jets was John DeFilippo, who then could be replacing Loggains as QB coach.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/former_bears_qb_coach_matt_cav.html

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  • Cavanaugh or Trestman would be good fits, personality wise, I'm not so sure about Weis.

    Cavanaugh, on a side note for the youngsters, was a big deal when I was growing up back in the 70's, he was the QB of the Pitt team that won the National Championship with Dorsett. He had a long career as a NFL backup too. He was like Don Strock, but without actually playing, he had a great clipboard gig for several teams.

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    And while we are going down memory lane, here is Trestman as our OC in the Bernie days:

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  • tml1138T tml1138

    I guess Bears QB coach Matt Cavanaugh is a candidate for OC. He worked with Pettine at the Jets...with Sanchez as QB no less, who is going to be available.

    And his assistant at the Jets was John DeFilippo, who then could be replacing Loggains as QB coach.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/former_bears_qb_coach_matt_cav.html

    @tml1138 said:

    I guess Bears QB coach Matt Cavanaugh is a candidate for OC. He worked with Pettine at the Jets...with Sanchez as QB no less, who is going to be available.

    And his assistant at the Jets was John DeFilippo, who then could be replacing Loggains as QB coach.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/former_bears_qb_coach_matt_cav.html

    So Cavanaugh was the guy responsible for Sanchez' soaring success with the Jets?

    Well good to hear. Hey at least he's Irish.

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons

  • Cavanaugh was OC for the Ratbirds when they won the championship in 2000.

  • Z Zombo

    I thought Shanny did a good job masking Hoyer's flaws as long as he could, he gave us a chance to be competitive early in the season even though we were starting a backup QB and a bunch of backup WRs.

    He wants to move on elsewhere, and the Browns don't need somebody that doesn't want to be there.

    Now we have no OC, no QB coach and no QB with more than two starts or over 6'0.

    Here we go again ... could be fun, let's hope we they get it right, because if we shore up the D-line we definitely have a playoff defense on hand.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    I thought Shanny did a good job masking Hoyer's flaws as long as he could, he gave us a chance to be competitive early in the season even though we were starting a backup QB and a bunch of backup WRs.

    This^^

  • Our best offense came with a dedicated FB infront of one of our RB's. Establishing the run than PA passes over the top. I don't want to see another west coast or read the fag option or whatever here in Cleveland. Play AFC North football.

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  • Z Zombo

    If RoosterDick and BaconHound got a room ...

    9 months later would we be welcoming "RoosterHound" or "BaconDick"?

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    If RoosterDick and BaconHound got a room ...

    9 months later would we be welcoming "RoosterHound" or "BaconDick"?

    Zombo

    Then the proposition to "Eat Me" would not be as distasteful.

  • tml1138T tml1138

    I guess Bears QB coach Matt Cavanaugh is a candidate for OC. He worked with Pettine at the Jets...with Sanchez as QB no less, who is going to be available.

    And his assistant at the Jets was John DeFilippo, who then could be replacing Loggains as QB coach.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/former_bears_qb_coach_matt_cav.html

    VesnaKociper said:

    This OC would consistenetly cal draw plays into a 9 man pile up................. resulting in 3d and 6.

    I know facts should be optional in a good rant, but we ran maybe 16 draws total all season long.

    @tml1138 said:

    I guess Bears QB coach Matt Cavanaugh is a candidate for OC. He worked with Pettine at the Jets...with Sanchez as QB no less, who is going to be available.

    And his assistant at the Jets was John DeFilippo, who then could be replacing Loggains as QB coach.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/former_bears_qb_coach_matt_cav.html

    Two things:

    1. Damn... Matt Cavanaugh is 58? How can that be?

    2. The article (by MKC) includes this line:

    "When Pettine took the Browns job last season, he was paired with Shanahan despite never having worked with him."

    I do not recall Kyle being forced on Pet, which is what she implies. More faulty memory here or more MKC mischief?
    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    VesnaKociper said:

    This OC would consistenetly cal draw plays into a 9 man pile up................. resulting in 3d and 6.

    I know facts should be optional in a good rant, but we ran maybe 16 draws total all season long.

    @tml1138 said:

    I guess Bears QB coach Matt Cavanaugh is a candidate for OC. He worked with Pettine at the Jets...with Sanchez as QB no less, who is going to be available.

    And his assistant at the Jets was John DeFilippo, who then could be replacing Loggains as QB coach.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/former_bears_qb_coach_matt_cav.html

    Two things:

    1. Damn... Matt Cavanaugh is 58? How can that be?

    2. The article (by MKC) includes this line:

    "When Pettine took the Browns job last season, he was paired with Shanahan despite never having worked with him."

    I do not recall Kyle being forced on Pet, which is what she implies. More faulty memory here or more MKC mischief?

    @tour2ma said:

    I know facts should be optional in a good rant, but we ran maybe 16 draws total all season long.

    Two things:

    1. Damn... Matt Cavanaugh is 58? How can that be?

    2. The article (by MKC) includes this line:

    "When Pettine took the Browns job last season, he was paired with Shanahan despite never having worked with him."

    I do not recall Kyle being forced on Pet, which is what she implies. More faulty memory here or more MKC mischief?
    He was paired with Pettine and they had not been together previously. That's what happens when we interpret the story. Unless she used the words forced on. We take it and run with it.

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    VesnaKociper said:

    This OC would consistenetly cal draw plays into a 9 man pile up................. resulting in 3d and 6.

    I know facts should be optional in a good rant, but we ran maybe 16 draws total all season long.

    @tml1138 said:

    I guess Bears QB coach Matt Cavanaugh is a candidate for OC. He worked with Pettine at the Jets...with Sanchez as QB no less, who is going to be available.

    And his assistant at the Jets was John DeFilippo, who then could be replacing Loggains as QB coach.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/former_bears_qb_coach_matt_cav.html

    Two things:

    1. Damn... Matt Cavanaugh is 58? How can that be?

    2. The article (by MKC) includes this line:

    "When Pettine took the Browns job last season, he was paired with Shanahan despite never having worked with him."

    I do not recall Kyle being forced on Pet, which is what she implies. More faulty memory here or more MKC mischief?

    @tour2ma said:

    "When Pettine took the Browns job last season, he was paired with Shanahan despite never having worked with him."

    I do not recall Kyle being forced on Pet, which is what she implies. More faulty memory here or more MKC mischief?

    @westside-steve said:

    He was paired with Pettine and they had not been together previously. That's what happens when we interpret the story. Unless she used the words forced on. We take it and run with it.

    My memory is that Pettine was a very late hire and there were VERY limited pickins in terms of available coaches for his staff.....meaning all the best ones were already under contract.....

    When Shanahan was selected, there was some discussion that he and Pettine didn't even know each other and may have some philosophical differences....but he was the only viable one at the moment....

    So....like any other business....you can only hire from the available pool of talent....and then hope you got the right guy....

    Dont think Shanny was forced on anyone, but do think they "settled" for him....

    Considering Pettine had to hire a whole staff....and he was a new HC without an existing staff....it only stands to reason he may have to make some changes to get a whole group of coaches who are on the same page and have the same perspectives on how things should go....

  • Some shaking out... sure, but Shanny was a prized OC on the rise as I remember it and I did not see any play-calling that did not fit with a conservative, defense-minded HC. Then again, that might be the real rub... Shanny felt too constrained.

    In any event, thanks... reasonable stuff... especially since it "fingers" MKC and not my memory.

    There's an image you'll hate me for...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Here's an early article, which kind of takes me back to my memory of them seeming luke warm on him.....at the time, the Browns definitely weren't falling over themselves to hire him....

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000320589/article/kyle-shanahan-longshot-for-cleveland-browns-oc-job

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  • I hope and pray it's Cavanaugh, for personal reasons.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
    LogicIsForSquaresL 1 Reply

  • I'm pulling for Trestman or Weiss.

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