Jameis Winston declares.
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I'd take jameis winston. It cannot be worse than what we're facing now.
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I'd take jameis winston. It cannot be worse than what we're facing now.
I'd take jameis winston. It cannot be worse than what we're facing now.
Until he fucks you in the ass and steals your fish sticks.
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Manziel. That is all.
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If Jameis was a model citizen he'd be ahead of Mariota and it wouldn't be close.
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I'd take jameis winston. It cannot be worse than what we're facing now.
Until he fucks you in the ass and steals your fish sticks.
Until he fucks you in the ass and steals your fish sticks.
That would be crab cakes.
RR-I agree.
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If Jameis was a model citizen he'd be ahead of Mariota and it wouldn't be close.
If Jameis was a model citizen he'd be ahead of Mariota and it wouldn't be close.
And.........
WSS
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Winston will go very high, it was smart for him to declare now. Outside of Mariota and Winston this QB class is absolute crap this year. When you got 5-6 teams that need a QB I'd be surprised if he wasn't top 15.
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I'd take jameis winston. It cannot be worse than what we're facing now.
I'd take jameis winston. It cannot be worse than what we're facing now.
oh yes it can. Winston makes Manziel look like a Viennese choir boy.
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does anyone have ANY faith that Winston would be a more studious rookie than Manziel? Not gonna happen. I'd rather give JM one more year to prove himself than to go through this again with Winston. Manziel has "problems"....with Winston you have serious concerns whether he's a good dude. I think Manziel is a good dude who has the potential to turn into something. Winston gives me the pre Fed Pen Vick vibes. It took federal pound me in the ass penitentiary for Vick to turn it around....you think a stint in Browns training camp is gonna turn Winston around?
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does anyone have ANY faith that Winston would be a more studious rookie than Manziel? Not gonna happen. I'd rather give JM one more year to prove himself than to go through this again with Winston. Manziel has "problems"....with Winston you have serious concerns whether he's a good dude. I think Manziel is a good dude who has the potential to turn into something. Winston gives me the pre Fed Pen Vick vibes. It took federal pound me in the ass penitentiary for Vick to turn it around....you think a stint in Browns training camp is gonna turn Winston around?
does anyone have ANY faith that Winston would be a more studious rookie than Manziel? Not gonna happen. I'd rather give JM one more year to prove himself than to go through this again with Winston. Manziel has "problems"....with Winston you have serious concerns whether he's a good dude. I think Manziel is a good dude who has the potential to turn into something. Winston gives me the pre Fed Pen Vick vibes. It took federal pound me in the ass penitentiary for Vick to turn it around....you think a stint in Browns training camp is gonna turn Winston around?
It's not that I have more faith in Winston being better off the field. It's that I have more faith in Winston being better on the field.
Winston's ceiling is about 7 inches higher than Manziel's.
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does anyone have ANY faith that Winston would be a more studious rookie than Manziel? Not gonna happen. I'd rather give JM one more year to prove himself than to go through this again with Winston. Manziel has "problems"....with Winston you have serious concerns whether he's a good dude. I think Manziel is a good dude who has the potential to turn into something. Winston gives me the pre Fed Pen Vick vibes. It took federal pound me in the ass penitentiary for Vick to turn it around....you think a stint in Browns training camp is gonna turn Winston around?
It's not that I have more faith in Winston being better off the field. It's that I have more faith in Winston being better on the field.
Winston's ceiling is about 7 inches higher than Manziel's.
It's not that I have more faith in Winston being better off the field. It's that I have more faith in Winston being better on the field.
Winston's ceiling is about 7 inches higher than Manziel's.
Yeah but he's not gonna stay on the field that's the point. Dude has shown every red flag "and then some". That little act he put on in the student commissary clearly shows he feels he's above everything and can do what he wants when he wants....that and the "these are my crab legs nigga" incident pretty say all you needed to know about him and we're not even broaching the rapey stuff yet.
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I'm not the least bit concerned with the "fuck her right in the pussy" incident. You can go to YouTube and find literally hundreds of people saying the exact same thing over a live news broadcast. Who hasn't yelled out something vulgar whilst with college buddies? The rape and theft in the other hand....that's some serious shit.
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It's not that I have more faith in Winston being better off the field. It's that I have more faith in Winston being better on the field.
Winston's ceiling is about 7 inches higher than Manziel's.
Yeah but he's not gonna stay on the field that's the point. Dude has shown every red flag "and then some". That little act he put on in the student commissary clearly shows he feels he's above everything and can do what he wants when he wants....that and the "these are my crab legs nigga" incident pretty say all you needed to know about him and we're not even broaching the rapey stuff yet.
Yeah but he's not gonna stay on the field that's the point. Dude has shown every red flag "and then some". That little act he put on in the student commissary clearly shows he feels he's above everything and can do what he wants when he wants....that and the "these are my crab legs nigga" incident pretty say all you needed to know about him and we're not even broaching the rapey stuff yet.
I get that. What I'm saying is that we're taking the same risk with Manziel as we are with Winston. So, if we have to have an off-the-field concern at QB, I'd rather it be the 6'5", 230 pocket passer who has all of the potential in the world, as well as the production to prove it.
I can't believe that I'm saying this...but Cleveland may the place to provide structure for that idiot. Especially if we dump both Gordon and Manziel. It shows that Pettine and Farmer will cut anyone, regardless of their star status.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd package Manziel and Gordon for whatever I could, then use whatever ammunition available (as long as it's less than 3 first round picks) to move up and take Winston at #2.
-If we keep Manziel, we're already going into the season with a question mark at QB.
-If they've decided to dump Manziel then, at this point, we're still going into the season with a question mark at QB.
-The only way we don't go into the season with a question mark at QB is if we decide to keep Hoyer...and then we're going into the season with essentially just a game manager while full-on admitting that we're drafting a QB in 2016.
So, fuck it. Go for the big idiot. At this point, why the hell not?
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Bottom Line: If Winston were available when it was Browns turn to draft......I would take him.
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If the Browns were smart they would take this kid. He is smart, already reads defenses, he is a leader, and he has everything you want in a QB.
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If the Browns were smart they would take this kid. He is smart, already reads defenses, he is a leader, and he has everything you want in a QB.
If the Browns were smart they would take this kid. He is smart, already reads defenses, he is a leader, and he has everything you want in a QB.
They draft 12th. They won't get a chance to get him. Of the 11 teams that draft before them like 8-9 need a QB.
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They draft 12th. They won't get a chance to get him. Of the 11 teams that draft before them like 8-9 need a QB.
Have two picks trade up.
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Fight rapist fire with rapist fire?
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