Jameis Winston declares.
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First, read:
Tom Brady, Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck have major traits in common: They all are big, strong guys who stand in the pocket and make a throw. Some of them can run, some of them can avoid a rush.
Break it down further.
Seven of the eight are at least 6-foot-2. The lone exception is Wilson, who is listed at 5-11 and a stout 206 pounds.
Wilson can run, and does so effectively. But he is more than a runner. He is a pocket passer who can run. Wilsonβs career completion percentage is 63.4 percent and his passer rating has never been lower than 95 and has been above 100 in two of his three seasons. Even with Wilson included, the average height and weight of the final eight is 6-3 and 230 pounds.
Look at the previous week at the four losing teams. Ben Roethlisberger, Andy Dalton and Matt Stafford are all at least 6-2. Arizona was reduced to their third starter, but all three starters are at least 6-3 and 230 pounds.
Is it a coincidence that the best teams in the league, the playoff teams, all had tall passers? Hardly. The NFL requires strong-armed passers who can think quickly, survey a defense, stand in the pocket and process information.Then:
Possesses all the natural physical tools you look for in today's NFL. He's big, athletic, has a strong arm and moves well inside the pocket. As for the intangibles, the list includes poise, anticipation, toughness, vision, leadership and a competitive fire. He's the total package, physically.
When on his game, delivers strikes before his receivers are out of their breaks or even looking for the ball. He handles pressure well, evading, resetting and speeding up his process when needed, listening to his internal clock.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
There's no made up vendetta, the only vendetta I have is rapists, murderers, dog killers, wifebeaters and various other criminal trash being allowed in the NFL. Fuck that and keep it off my team, I have no desire to cheer for a piece of shit like Winston.
Do you own the Browns? Are you Jimmy Haslam?
You either cheer for whatever QB is at the helm...or you aren't a Browns fan. It's that simple. If one player can change an allegiance, then you were a piss poor fan to begin with.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
There's no made up vendetta, the only vendetta I have is rapists, murderers, dog killers, wifebeaters and various other criminal trash being allowed in the NFL. Fuck that and keep it off my team, I have no desire to cheer for a piece of shit like Winston.
Still making things up... So he stole some crab legs... That doesn't change the fact he will probably be a good QB.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
Clearly, I'M a piss poor fan because I don't want to waste my time and money supporting criminal pieces of shit. Get the fuck outa here with that bullshit kid, some shit is far more important than a fucking game and I am not going to rationalize someone being a waste of oxygen because the Browns drafted them. Draft a rapist and I won't support it. I won't allow my children to support and condone it. Simple as that.
To be honest you look like a bigger piece of shit hen he does. I hope your kids don't follow your examples.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
Clearly, I'M a piss poor fan because I don't want to waste my time and money supporting criminal pieces of shit. Get the fuck outa here with that bullshit kid, some shit is far more important than a fucking game and I am not going to rationalize someone being a waste of oxygen because the Browns drafted them. Draft a rapist and I won't support it. I won't allow my children to support and condone it. Simple as that.
You're a piss poor fan because you're a piss poor person.
And because you know literally nothing about football.
Go ahead and don't support it. Doesn't change the fact that he'll be a franchise QB for someone.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
1: I'm not the one polesmoking rapists and cokeheads, that's you. Far as I am concerned that makes you just as bad as them.
2: I've forgotten more about Football then you QB fanboy faggots will ever know.
3: LMAO, sure he will. Vick 2.0, period.
This is probably the funniest thing I've read here.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
1: I'm not the one polesmoking rapists and cokeheads, that's you. Far as I am concerned that makes you just as bad as them.
2: I've forgotten more about Football then you QB fanboy faggots will ever know.
3: LMAO, sure he will. Vick 2.0, period.
You probably look just as stupid in real life. I feel sorry for your kids.
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You call him an idiot yet he was accepted to Stanford. He holds a 3.2 GPA and can read defenses.I wouldn't draft that fucking idiot if he made it all the way to 12
You are the same dirt bag that was all about sucking some Manziel rod so I am not surprised you can't see good QBs.
@junkyard-dawg said:
For a criminal rapist scumbag? No thanks.
Talking football no one cares about your made up vendetta.
So his GPA and the fact he can read defenses are all you need to assess he isn't an idiot? Pull your head out of your ass and look at the whole picture. The Unabomber got his Phd from Harvard, kind of an idiot though.You call him an idiot yet he was accepted to Stanford. He holds a 3.2 GPA and can read defenses.
You are the same dirt bag that was all about sucking some Manziel rod so I am not surprised you can't see good QBs.
Talking football no one cares about your made up vendetta.
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so oregon destroyed FSU.
what would've the OSU university done against them.
FSU was all smoke and mirrors all year long and should not have even been included in some of the post season voting.
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so oregon destroyed FSU.
what would've the OSU university done against them.
FSU was all smoke and mirrors all year long and should not have even been included in some of the post season voting.
so oregon destroyed FSU.
what would've the OSU university done against them.
FSU was all smoke and mirrors all year long and should not have even been included in some of the post season voting.
You can't leave out a 29 or w/e it was game win streak and the previous national champion though. I had the same feeling but there's no way.
Last night showed to me that Winston should be the first QB off the board.
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So his GPA and the fact he can read defenses are all you need to assess he isn't an idiot? Pull your head out of your ass and look at the whole picture. The Unabomber got his Phd from Harvard, kind of an idiot though.You call him an idiot yet he was accepted to Stanford. He holds a 3.2 GPA and can read defenses.
You are the same dirt bag that was all about sucking some Manziel rod so I am not surprised you can't see good QBs.
Talking football no one cares about your made up vendetta.
So his GPA and the fact he can read defenses are all you need to assess he isn't an idiot? Pull your head out of your ass and look at the whole picture. The Unabomber got his Phd from Harvard, kind of an idiot though.
That is the dumbest fucking comparison i have ever heard. Why is the IQ on these forums in the fucking dumpster?
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@junkyard-dawg said:
There's no made up vendetta, the only vendetta I have is rapists, murderers, dog killers, wifebeaters and various other criminal trash being allowed in the NFL. Fuck that and keep it off my team, I have no desire to cheer for a piece of shit like Winston.
Still making things up... So he stole some crab legs... That doesn't change the fact he will probably be a good QB.
Junkyard Dawg, on 12 Jan 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:
@junkyard-dawg said:
There's no made up vendetta, the only vendetta I have is rapists, murderers, dog killers, wifebeaters and various other criminal trash being allowed in the NFL. Fuck that and keep it off my team, I have no desire to cheer for a piece of shit like Winston.
Still making things up... So he stole some crab legs... That doesn't change the fact he will probably be a good QB.
It shows that he has a history of low impulse control. Which could lead to on and off field issues. If you are a Heisman Trophy winning, national championship winning college football QB the world on and around campus is your oyster. Why steal crablegs? Scholastic smart dumb ass?
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Actually it's casually throwing around terms like "ghetto trash" that make you a piece of shit.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So his GPA and the fact he can read defenses are all you need to assess he isn't an idiot? Pull your head out of your ass and look at the whole picture. The Unabomber got his Phd from Harvard, kind of an idiot though.
That is the dumbest fucking comparison i have ever heard. Why is the IQ on these forums in the fucking dumpster?
You built your case on him not being an idiot due to his GPA and acceptance to an Ivy League school. I simply point out you are looking at a very small part of the overall behaviors of the guy. My point is solid. The comparison is a bit of sarcasm although still makes a point regarding intelligence vs sensible behavior. If you can't find sense in that then I agree with you, the IQ is in the dumpster and you are at the bottom of the pile.That is the dumbest fucking comparison i have ever heard. Why is the IQ on these forums in the fucking dumpster?
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@junkyard-dawg said:
Not quite, considering A: He's from the ghetto and B: He's a piece of fucking garbage, hence ghetto trash. It's a factual term, albeit non-PC. Deal with it.
I rest my case...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
@junkyard-dawg said:
Not quite, considering A: He's from the ghetto and B: He's a piece of fucking garbage, hence ghetto trash. It's a factual term, albeit non-PC. Deal with it.
Show the facts behind a person being a "piece of garbage". Oh wait, you can't. Just like any of your arguments...this is just another that you literally can't back up with any sort of fact. Part of this is because your argument is stupid, the other part is because you're a ignorant pussy.
"Garbage" is completely subjective. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Used as an adjective, it's even more subjective.
For instance, to you, "garbage" means "black person".
To me, "garbage" means "racist, mouth-breathing halfwit motherfucker with shitty, Retarded, useless parents and future McDonald's employees for children".
But, you know, that's just me.
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The Browns have a highly drafted QB that did well on the Wonderlic that seems, like WInston, to suffer for a lack of impulse control. The Browns have an affable, very talented wide receiver with a lack of impulse control.
Yes, it's possible for people to turn the page and get their act together. If it's a Andrew Luck type talent then I can see rolling the dice in the first round. I don't view him as an Andrew Luck - step in and function well talent so then any red flags would have to reduce value and draft position.
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The Browns have a highly drafted QB that did well on the Wonderlic that seems, like WInston, to suffer for a lack of impulse control. The Browns have an affable, very talented wide receiver with a lack of impulse control.
Yes, it's possible for people to turn the page and get their act together. If it's a Andrew Luck type talent then I can see rolling the dice in the first round. I don't view him as an Andrew Luck - step in and function well talent so then any red flags would have to reduce value and draft position.
The Browns have a highly drafted QB that did well on the Wonderlic that seems, like WInston, to suffer for a lack of impulse control. The Browns have an affable, very talented wide receiver with a lack of impulse control.
Yes, it's possible for people to turn the page and get their act together. If it's a Andrew Luck type talent then I can see rolling the dice in the first round. I don't view him as an Andrew Luck - step in and function well talent so then any red flags would have to reduce value and draft position.
I would venture to say that he's the closest prospect to Luck since Luck, in that he's the most pro-ready prospect with the least amount of on-field red flags.
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