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  • Mariota played a great game. Oregon as a whole did not. Can't hate 333 yards and 2 TDs. Oregon's defense just can't stop a god damn thing.

  • Agreed Ghoolie. I guess losing the game makes him shit for life in the OPs opinion.

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  • Yea Mariota made some great plays early. I don't believe cardale Jones will be a better QB in the NFL than Mariota, but the buckeyes were better as a team.

    OP is too simple minded to evaluate anything else.

  • Jones looked no better than Mariota, IMO. Mariota was unfortunate to have some drops by receivers, Jones was fortunate to not have passes defended better, but the key difference was the running game. That's why OSU won - if it had come down to a straight fight between QBs, most money would be on Mariota.

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  • Mariota = Dennis Dixon = Daron Thomas = Jeremiah Masoli

    They are all option QBs not NFL qbs.

    Just like those guys, Mariota will wash out of the NFL quickly.

    I never really watched Cardale Jones before. Holy shit that guy has the biggest arm I've ever seen. Im curious to know if he's smart or not.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Jones looked no better than Mariota, IMO. Mariota was unfortunate to have some drops by receivers, Jones was fortunate to not have passes defended better, but the key difference was the running game. That's why OSU won - if it had come down to a straight fight between QBs, most money would be on Mariota.

    @gftchris said:

    Jones looked no better than Mariota, IMO. Mariota was unfortunate to have some drops by receivers, Jones was fortunate to not have passes defended better, but the key difference was the running game. That's why OSU won - if it had come down to a straight fight between QBs, most money would be on Mariota.

    Well the Buckeyes were unfortunate enough to have the ball stripped multiple times. So there's that. Should have been at least 21 more points. That doesn't mean Mariota did bad job or Oregon wasn't a good team. They weren't rated as highly as Alabama though were they?

    Anyway its moot now isnt it?

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  • Mariota last night showed his biggest weakness and strength at the same time. He is an incredible talent when it comes to escaping pressure, keeping his eyes down field and making quick, decisive throws. That elusiveness I think will easily translate to the NFL. He's also got the size you look for although they may want him to gain 15 pounds. Our Buckeyes just beat the dog crap out of the Ducks in every way possible, and if it weren't for self-induced turnovers I have no doubt in my mind they would have won by 35+

    BUT, his pocket passing leaves a good amount to be desired. I think this is going to be an issue many QB's face moving forward, but he's not a guy you want to start week 1. I do think this is something that with the right coaches can really figure itself out but not if you throw the guy in.

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  • Mariota is far from being a joke. He is a class act on and off the field from what I have read of him. He will be a good qb in the NFL. I would have loved to see him in Cleveland over Manziel.

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    Mariota is far from being a joke. He is a class act on and off the field from what I have read of him. He will be a good qb in the NFL. I would have loved to see him in Cleveland over Manziel.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    He will be a good qb in the NFL. I would have loved to see him in Cleveland over Manziel.

    His play will be very similar to Jonny Shitfaced. They have similar skill sets and they both lack the ability to throw a football with velocity.

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  • Kid impressed me with sliding in the pocket and keeping his eyes downfield. I think he struggles with consistency and accuracy.

    I don't want the kid on the Browns, but I think he'll be a pretty ok QB.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    Mariota last night showed his biggest weakness and strength at the same time. He is an incredible talent when it comes to escaping pressure, keeping his eyes down field and making quick, decisive throws. That elusiveness I think will easily translate to the NFL. He's also got the size you look for although they may want him to gain 15 pounds. Our Buckeyes just beat the dog crap out of the Ducks in every way possible, and if it weren't for self-induced turnovers I have no doubt in my mind they would have won by 35+

    BUT, his pocket passing leaves a good amount to be desired. I think this is going to be an issue many QB's face moving forward, but he's not a guy you want to start week 1. I do think this is something that with the right coaches can really figure itself out but not if you throw the guy in.

    @jrb12711 said:

    keeping his eyes down field and making quick, decisive throws.

    what the fuck is a decisive throw? Does that mean he decided to throw it where it went?

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  • Cardale was building campfires and toasting marshmallows on 3rd and longs because OU DC was so stupid as to never apply any pressure and mostly wasted a LB in middle zone just twiddling his thumbs. Almost every 3rd and long they rushed only 3 which was ridiculous. That does not make him a great QB, but it would give me pause as HC to fire one DC who had a horrible game plan. #15 was the difference in the game. OU D was worn out chasing phantoms on 3rd and longs most of the first half so he just ran all over them as the game wore on.

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  • Ag, that's OU's main game... drop 8. And when they did apply pressure Jones torched them more times than not.

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  • LumberghL Lumbergh

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    He will be a good qb in the NFL. I would have loved to see him in Cleveland over Manziel.

    His play will be very similar to Jonny Shitfaced. They have similar skill sets and they both lack the ability to throw a football with velocity.

    @lumbergh said:

    His play will be very similar to Jonny Shitfaced. They have similar skill sets and they both lack the ability to throw a football with velocity.

    Tom Brady went in the sixth round because "he didn't have enough arm".

    After being drafted by the Pats he worked on arm strength and mechanics and by anyones admission is a great NFL QB.

    Would Mariota be able to do this? Maybe. He does have the character (lacking in Twatziel) to put in the work to get better, and to learn to be a pocket passer.

    Is he a first round pick? After this, probably not. But see all Ghoulie's points.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Ag, that's OU's main game... drop 8. And when they did apply pressure Jones torched them more times than not.

    @tour2ma said:

    Ag, that's OU's main game... drop 8. And when they did apply pressure Jones torched them more times than not.

    And big 250 lb QBs with speed will kill a drop 8 all day long. They should have done some revision for this guy before the game even started.

  • T TexasAg1969

    Cardale was building campfires and toasting marshmallows on 3rd and longs because OU DC was so stupid as to never apply any pressure and mostly wasted a LB in middle zone just twiddling his thumbs. Almost every 3rd and long they rushed only 3 which was ridiculous. That does not make him a great QB, but it would give me pause as HC to fire one DC who had a horrible game plan. #15 was the difference in the game. OU D was worn out chasing phantoms on 3rd and longs most of the first half so he just ran all over them as the game wore on.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Cardale was building campfires and toasting marshmallows on 3rd and longs because OU DC was so stupid as to never apply any pressure and mostly wasted a LB in middle zone just twiddling his thumbs. Almost every 3rd and long they rushed only 3 which was ridiculous. That does not make him a great QB, but it would give me pause as HC to fire one DC who had a horrible game plan. #15 was the difference in the game. OU D was worn out chasing phantoms on 3rd and longs most of the first half so he just ran all over them as the game wore on.

    Did you watch the same game I watched? When the Oregon D line got to Cardale, and they did regularly, he punked them. When the opposing QB runs and knockes the nose tackle back or on his ass then the QB is punking the defense. They only really made Cardale Jones make a mistake once - the mystery fumble that netted them... A field goal.

    Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Mariota isn't a joke, you however are an asshole. The kid is a gentleman and he had the Buckeyes hanging on for dear life for awhile.

    I guess Kosar sucked because he didn't win the National Championship either?

    Bernie Kosar was on the wrong end of some of the most gutwrenching losses in history: Hail Flutie, The Drive, The Fumble

    (but what about Nebraska?)

    What the fuck man, why does being happy for the Buckeyes have to include demeaning the Ducks.

    Here is one for you small minded, cocksuckers................... IF AS YOU SAY THE DUCKS SUCK................. Then really OSU didn't accomplish much today because obviously they didn't play one of the better NCAA teams.

    The Ducks are a great football team and Mariota is a great kid. Not an NFL QB? Of course he isn't, he is a college player.

    Dick suckers!

    I think Mariota will be fine in the pros.......and you never know, perhaps the Browns will be in position to contemplate drafting him....if he supposedly sucks so bad that he slips down in the first round all the way to 12 where the Browns pick......but, nah, ain't going to happen. 8-9 teams ahead of them need QBs.

  • Prior to the 2002 championship game, Miami Ken Dorsey was in much the same position as Marcus Mariotta. A bowl loss by an underdog really sank his draft status. And the same thing when Florida beat OSU in the championship - Troy Smith slid to 6th round status in a hurry.

    Isn't Mariotta a Junior? Could he play another year and "repair" or "advance" his game?

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  • VesnaKociper said:

    Mariota isn't a joke, you however are an asshole. The kid is a gentleman and he had the Buckeyes hanging on for dear life for awhile.

    I guess Kosar sucked because he didn't win the National Championship either? What the fuck man, why does being happy for the Buckeyes have to include demeaning the Ducks.

    Here is one for you small minded, cocksuckers................... IF AS YOU SAY THE DUCKS SUCK................. Then really OSU didn't accomplish much today because obviously they didn't play one of the better NCAA teams.

    The Ducks are a great football team and Mariota is a great kid. Not an NFL QB? Of course he isn't, he is a college player.

    Dick suckers!

    Come on Ghoulie, OSU just won, many of us are on a testosterone high, let us have some harmless fun. At the end of the day we know Mariotta is a good kid and a great athlete.

  • LumberghL Lumbergh

    @jrb12711 said:

    keeping his eyes down field and making quick, decisive throws.

    what the fuck is a decisive throw? Does that mean he decided to throw it where it went?

    @lumbergh said:

    what the fuck is a decisive throw? Does that mean he decided to throw it where it went?

    A lot of the throws in the Oregon offense are timing based. They may be "simple" but the throw has to be quick and decisive or else it's incomplete or worse. Use your brain here it's not hard to understand. Of course I'm sure you are still too consumed about the fact DA was 2-0 as a starter this year.

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