John Fox out in Denver!
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I just have this image in my mind of Manning just literally taking a snap, standing still, basically playing flag football, behind our awesome OL, leading receivers to not get them injured, just marching down the field like "seriously Brian, you couldn't get this team in the playoffs? LOL"
I just have this image in my mind of Manning just literally taking a snap, standing still, basically playing flag football, behind our awesome OL, leading receivers to not get them injured, just marching down the field like "seriously Brian, you couldn't get this team in the playoffs? LOL"
I thought you were trolling with that awesome OL comment...but then it appears you weren't. I'm confused. You really think our line as is wouldn't get him killed? We don't know what Mack is going to be like next season coming off the injury, but even with him 100% Manning would have to check down to his right on every play to make sure some edge guy isn't coming free for his old ass. I'd love me some Peyton Manning in Cleveland but we'd have to make an invest in that right side of the line.
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you all are so sure manning would just accept an OC position like he's been dreaming of it for years. maybe he'd like to take some time off? maybe his heartstrings are still in TN?
i mean talking about making shit up.
is there one line of text from any substantiated report, any twat tweet, anything to even suggest what you bozos are suggesting?
you all are so sure manning would just accept an OC position like he's been dreaming of it for years. maybe he'd like to take some time off? maybe his heartstrings are still in TN?
i mean talking about making shit up.
is there one line of text from any substantiated report, any twat tweet, anything to even suggest what you bozos are suggesting?
Shut up and quit sucking on balls!
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you all are so sure manning would just accept an OC position like he's been dreaming of it for years. maybe he'd like to take some time off? maybe his heartstrings are still in TN?
i mean talking about making shit up.
is there one line of text from any substantiated report, any twat tweet, anything to even suggest what you bozos are suggesting?
Shut up and quit sucking on balls!
Shut up and quit sucking on balls!
i only suck on your mom's balls larry.
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I was reading where his contract with Denver had not guarenteed money, so that if they cut him they save his salary/cap space. Not that I am suggesting PM come here as a QB or as a QB/Coach on the field.
As to Mik's post. Yes. Who knows what he is thinking, and from post game interviews he is contemplating his future as an NFL player. I am sure that Elway is prodding Peyton so that he know's what course he (Elway) will take.
I was reading where his contract with Denver had not guarenteed money, so that if they cut him they save his salary/cap space. Not that I am suggesting PM come here as a QB or as a QB/Coach on the field.
But I am suggesting exactly that. Especially if it could be for a low salary cap figure.
As to Mik's post. Yes. Who knows what he is thinking, and from post game interviews he is contemplating his future as an NFL player. I am sure that Elway is prodding Peyton so that he know's what course he (Elway) will take.
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Fairly? He'd better start off in prefect health. Even then Manning is beyond the age where staying "fairly healthy" thru an NFL season is likely.
No 39 year old QB is going to be in "perfect health". I assume he could recover from his torn squad by training camp...and be close to 100% as a 39 year old QB can be.
As for JM sitting and learning... what gives you any hope the latter would happen?
Because he is a reasonably bright....though immature person. Plus, we are stuck with him and his contract. But I also say that he should not be the only dog in the hunt. You might also have Connor Shaw, and maybe another somewhat veteran guy off the street. See the FA QB thread.
No 39 year old QB is going to be in "perfect health". I assume he could recover from his torn squad by training camp...and be close to 100% as a 39 year old QB can be.
My point was he can come into a season healthy, but he is beyond surviving an NFL season.
even with the connection with haslam, does that mean it would behis #1 choice?
what do you know about his connection with univ of tennessee?
just cuz you play golf with someone doesn't mean you want to work for them.
Someone piss in your Cheerios? It's good-natured speculation, mik... relax...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Oh... and I've rethought the whole "Peyton mentor JM" thing...
JM might not survive the first week.
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i don't remember the beginning of an off season ever on here where people just turned insane overnite.
peyton manning our QB and/or our OC?
yeah and i believe in leprechauns and unicorns.
can we start a thread on aaron rodgers coming here next?
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I just have this image in my mind of Manning just literally taking a snap, standing still, basically playing flag football, behind our awesome OL, leading receivers to not get them injured, just marching down the field like "seriously Brian, you couldn't get this team in the playoffs? LOL"
I thought you were trolling with that awesome OL comment...but then it appears you weren't. I'm confused. You really think our line as is wouldn't get him killed? We don't know what Mack is going to be like next season coming off the injury, but even with him 100% Manning would have to check down to his right on every play to make sure some edge guy isn't coming free for his old ass. I'd love me some Peyton Manning in Cleveland but we'd have to make an invest in that right side of the line.
I thought you were trolling with that awesome OL comment...but then it appears you weren't. I'm confused. You really think our line as is wouldn't get him killed? We don't know what Mack is going to be like next season coming off the injury, but even with him 100% Manning would have to check down to his right on every play to make sure some edge guy isn't coming free for his old ass. I'd love me some Peyton Manning in Cleveland but we'd have to make an invest in that right side of the line.
Not trolling. With Mack, we had a top 5 OL - I'm not sure why all the Schwartz hate? He's no JT, but he is far from terrible.
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Oh... and I've rethought the whole "Peyton mentor JM" thing...
JM might not survive the first week.
Oh... and I've rethought the whole "Peyton mentor JM" thing...
JM might not survive the first week.
Why would manning want to mentor that douche? Mannings kicked him out of their program not too long ago.
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No 39 year old QB is going to be in "perfect health". I assume he could recover from his torn squad by training camp...and be close to 100% as a 39 year old QB can be.
My point was he can come into a season healthy, but he is beyond surviving an NFL season.
even with the connection with haslam, does that mean it would behis #1 choice?
what do you know about his connection with univ of tennessee?
just cuz you play golf with someone doesn't mean you want to work for them.
Someone piss in your Cheerios? It's good-natured speculation, mik... relax...
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No 39 year old QB is going to be in "perfect health". I assume he could recover from his torn squad by training camp...and be close to 100% as a 39 year old QB can be.
My point was he can come into a season healthy, but he is beyond surviving an NFL season.
even with the connection with haslam, does that mean it would behis #1 choice?
what do you know about his connection with univ of tennessee?
just cuz you play golf with someone doesn't mean you want to work for them.
Someone piss in your Cheerios? It's good-natured speculation, mik... relax...
My point was he can come into a season healthy, but he is beyond surviving an NFL season.
We were down to our third stringer this year due to injuries to much younger men. The possibility of a Browns QB getting injured is just a fact of life, be it a 39 year old Peyton or a 22 year old like JFF and Shaw.
Someone piss in your Cheerios? It's good-natured speculation, mik... relax...
No, they pooped in his Cap'n Crunch.
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Probably- but for how long? Willing to settle for one and done in the Playoffs? Elway apparently isn't.
Like I said....you go into it knowing that it is a transition period.......like with Gary Danielson and BK.....except we gotta figure out who our BK is.
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Why would manning want to mentor that douche? Mannings kicked him out of their program not too long ago.
Because maybe he would like to have a legacy as a mentor.....and because JH asks him to.
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Because maybe he would like to have a legacy as a mentor.....and because JH asks him to.
Fool me once fool me twice my man. The only thing consistent that this kid wants to excel at is partying. He's been a let down time and time again.
I'd understand wanting to give time to someone who's made mistakes if they at least have an upside. But this kid hasn't shown an ounce of an NFL qb. Yet the same stupid mistakes continue.
Who wants to hitch their wagon to that?
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Didn't JFF go to the Manning QB camp and then get sent home early for missing meetings????......It makes me wonder what Peytons honest opinion of him is?
Im sure, after his amazing career and ALL the options that will be presented to him, hitching his wagon to Manziel and the Browns wont be at the top of his list.....just a hunch
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I thought you were trolling with that awesome OL comment...but then it appears you weren't. I'm confused. You really think our line as is wouldn't get him killed? We don't know what Mack is going to be like next season coming off the injury, but even with him 100% Manning would have to check down to his right on every play to make sure some edge guy isn't coming free for his old ass. I'd love me some Peyton Manning in Cleveland but we'd have to make an invest in that right side of the line.
Not trolling. With Mack, we had a top 5 OL - I'm not sure why all the Schwartz hate? He's no JT, but he is far from terrible.
Not trolling. With Mack, we had a top 5 OL - I'm not sure why all the Schwartz hate? He's no JT, but he is far from terrible.
there were a couple instances early in the season before Mack went down where a DL basically followed Hoyer into the backfield for a stop and chat at the handoff. Plenty of guys came flying around that right side all season long, it wasn't good. I'm willing to give that right side one more year but we need their backups/replacements on the roster by the start of TC. We can't wing it anymore and just hope for the best.
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I thought you were trolling with that awesome OL comment...but then it appears you weren't. I'm confused. You really think our line as is wouldn't get him killed? We don't know what Mack is going to be like next season coming off the injury, but even with him 100% Manning would have to check down to his right on every play to make sure some edge guy isn't coming free for his old ass. I'd love me some Peyton Manning in Cleveland but we'd have to make an invest in that right side of the line.
Not trolling. With Mack, we had a top 5 OL - I'm not sure why all the Schwartz hate? He's no JT, but he is far from terrible.
Not trolling. With Mack, we had a top 5 OL - I'm not sure why all the Schwartz hate? He's no JT, but he is far from terrible.
Im with you.....even with all the problems we had after Mack went down, we still finished as the #6 best lIne in the NFL....
and 4 of our starters grade out at the top....Mack was grading out as the #1 center, Thomas is thomas, Schwartz rated #32 of ALL tackles and #13 on the right and Bitonio looks like a perennial Pro-bowl type of player.....so, we need depth yes....but think we are solid with our starters....who were the #1 line until Mack went down...
So...when healthy.....our line is #1..... Why invest in upgrading the starters with so many other areas in need?
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Not trolling. With Mack, we had a top 5 OL - I'm not sure why all the Schwartz hate? He's no JT, but he is far from terrible.
Im with you.....even with all the problems we had after Mack went down, we still finished as the #6 best lIne in the NFL....
and 4 of our starters grade out at the top....Mack was grading out as the #1 center, Thomas is thomas, Schwartz rated #32 of ALL tackles and #13 on the right and Bitonio looks like a perennial Pro-bowl type of player.....so, we need depth yes....but think we are solid with our starters....who were the #1 line until Mack went down...
So...when healthy.....our line is #1..... Why invest in upgrading the starters with so many other areas in need?
Im with you.....even with all the problems we had after Mack went down, we still finished as the #6 best lIne in the NFL....
and 4 of our starters grade out at the top....Mack was grading out as the #1 center, Thomas is thomas, Schwartz rated #32 of ALL tackles and #13 on the right and Bitonio looks like a perennial Pro-bowl type of player.....so, we need depth yes....but think we are solid with our starters....who were the #1 line until Mack went down...
So...when healthy.....our line is #1..... Why invest in upgrading the starters with so many other areas in need?
I'm assuming you watched the same games as everyone else right? The line had it's moments but they gave up some eye openingly bad plays. I've seen some bad o line play in Cleveland in the last 16 years but I'd never before seen a defensive lineman meet our QB and RB at the handoff before...and it happened a couple times. It's something that if it happens once a season it's cause for concern...happening 2-3 times a season though makes you go uh wut now? I'd like to have your optimism that our O line will be "just fine" but we've seen our line make major regressions in just one year.
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