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Why would anyone want to cut Travis Benjamin. Dude is quicksilver in a helmet and our only legit returner threat... It's not like he's going to ask for big money. He's a decent WR, but most importantly, he's fast.
Why would anyone want to cut Travis Benjamin. Dude is quicksilver in a helmet and our only legit returner threat... It's not like he's going to ask for big money. He's a decent WR, but most importantly, he's fast.
He's mediocre and taking a roster spot from a younger, faster guy with more potential.
Benjamin the project is done.
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Why would anyone want to cut Travis Benjamin. Dude is quicksilver in a helmet and our only legit returner threat... It's not like he's going to ask for big money. He's a decent WR, but most importantly, he's fast.
He's mediocre and taking a roster spot from a younger, faster guy with more potential.
Benjamin the project is done.
He's mediocre and taking a roster spot from a younger, faster guy with more potential.
Benjamin the project is done.
You couldn't be more dead wrong.. He made some tough catches this past season.. I'm with PGL on this one.. Travis will be going into his 3rd season and , I expect good things from him.
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Why would anyone want to cut Travis Benjamin. Dude is quicksilver in a helmet and our only legit returner threat... It's not like he's going to ask for big money. He's a decent WR, but most importantly, he's fast.
He's mediocre and taking a roster spot from a younger, faster guy with more potential.
Benjamin the project is done.
He's mediocre and taking a roster spot from a younger, faster guy with more potential.
Benjamin the project is done.
Gotta agree with you......he's not gonna be a good one....time to move on...
You couldn't be more dead wrong.. He made some tough catches this past season.. I'm with PGL on this one.. Travis will be going into his 3rd season and , I expect good things from him.
Actually, he's going into his 4th year....and in 3 whole seasons he has 40 catches for 700 yards.....and he's fumbled 5 of them.......not counting the muffs....
Now, to me, 40 catches for 700 would be "average for one season" ......but, for 3 seasons?.......way below average.....
And even with his speed, it's obvious the coaches dont trust him to catch punts.....we just had a whole season of Jim Leonard, remember?
Time to add talent to the WR's and, based upon the others we have, he seems like the one with least upside and would be most likely to go.......
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WOW I didn't realize that Benji only had 70 catches in 3 years. CYA
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No you don't. Everyone already know that you are a queer and suck balls!
and i'm the one with warning points?
lol.
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WOW I didn't realize that Benji only had 70 catches in 3 years. CYA
thats 40 catches actually(not 70)......or 0.8 a game.....or 14 yards a game.....for 3 years now....
here's another way to look at it.....this year some felt Benji had stepped up his game...he had some nice catches(yes)....some TD's(3).....then Josh Gordon came back and "most people" thought he totally sucked/tanked/slacked(which he did)....right?......so Benji improved and Josh sucked....we can all agree on that, right?
Yet....here are their final #'s for 2014...
Benji....16 games....18 catches for 314 yds <<<< these are not good #'s
Josh.... .5 games....24 catches for 303 yds
or, for more perspective, in his last year here....Mr. Superstar himself ....
Greg Little....16 games....53 catches for 650.......so, Greg little did WAY more in one year, than Benji did in 3.....
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He's mediocre and taking a roster spot from a younger, faster guy with more potential.
Benjamin the project is done.
You couldn't be more dead wrong.. He made some tough catches this past season.. I'm with PGL on this one.. Travis will be going into his 3rd season and , I expect good things from him.
You couldn't be more dead wrong.. He made some tough catches this past season.. I'm with PGL on this one.. Travis will be going into his 3rd season and , I expect good things from him.
Expect all you want. Doesn't mean he's going to produce. The guy has less than 1,000 receiving yards for his career. His punt return and kick return skills aren't especially elite, either. There were late round rookies across the league outperforming him last year and Benjamin eventually lost the job to Leonhard.
Sure, he's quick. But Andrew Hawkins is quicker. Andrew Hawkins is also a better receiver.
It's a business. Benjamin was a good project, and I'm sure he's a great guy. But the cost of keeping him outweighs the benefits.
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You couldn't be more dead wrong.. He made some tough catches this past season.. I'm with PGL on this one.. Travis will be going into his 3rd season and , I expect good things from him.
Expect all you want. Doesn't mean he's going to produce. The guy has less than 1,000 receiving yards for his career. His punt return and kick return skills aren't especially elite, either. There were late round rookies across the league outperforming him last year and Benjamin eventually lost the job to Leonhard.
Sure, he's quick. But Andrew Hawkins is quicker. Andrew Hawkins is also a better receiver.
It's a business. Benjamin was a good project, and I'm sure he's a great guy. But the cost of keeping him outweighs the benefits.
Sure, he's quick. But Andrew Hawkins is quicker. Andrew Hawkins is also a better receiver.
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Add Taylor Gabriel to the mix.....he had double the catches and yards....as a rookie!.....and he's also small(and faster).....how many tiny/fast guys do we need?.....Im with you tcpo, Hawkins and Gabe are enough....
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ROSTER
SIGNED PLAYERS
Name Position Cap Hit
Brian Hoyer QB 3,200,000
Randall Cobb WR 7,875,000
Miles Austin WR 1,200,000
Doug Legursky C 2,000,000
Ndamukong Suh DT 8,955,000
Brian Orakpo OLB 6,020,000
Buster Skrine CB 2,100,000
CUT
Name Position
Gary Barnidge TE
Travis Benjamin WR
Michael Bowie T
Darius Eubanks OLB
Nick McDonald G
Garrett Hartley K
Paul McQuistan T
Robert Nelson CB
Jamie Meder DT
RESTRUCTURED
Name Position
TRANSITION TAGGED
Name Position
Jordan Cameron TE
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ROSTER
SIGNED PLAYERS
Name Position Cap Hit
Brian Hoyer QB 3,200,000
Randall Cobb WR 7,875,000
Miles Austin WR 1,200,000
Doug Legursky C 2,000,000
Ndamukong Suh DT 8,955,000
Brian Orakpo OLB 6,020,000
Buster Skrine CB 2,100,000
CUT
Name Position
Gary Barnidge TE
Travis Benjamin WR
Michael Bowie T
Darius Eubanks OLB
Nick McDonald G
Garrett Hartley K
Paul McQuistan T
Robert Nelson CB
Jamie Meder DT
RESTRUCTURED
Name Position
TRANSITION TAGGED
Name Position
Jordan Cameron TE
GuNNerGatSKy said:
ROSTER
SIGNED PLAYERS
Name Position Cap Hit
Brian Hoyer QB 3,200,000
Randall Cobb WR 7,875,000 - Packers won't let him go (what about Dwayne Bowe?)
Miles Austin WR 1,200,000
Doug Legursky C 2,000,000
Ndamukong Suh DT 8,955,000 - Not worth it plus it will cost more than this (we should grab DT in the draft)
Brian Orakpo OLB 6,020,000
Buster Skrine CB 2,100,000
CUT - Can't argue with this list
Name Position
Gary Barnidge TE
Travis Benjamin WR
Michael Bowie T
Darius Eubanks OLB
Nick McDonald G
Garrett Hartley K
Paul McQuistan T
Robert Nelson CB
Jamie Meder DT
RESTRUCTURED
Name Position
TRANSITION TAGGED
Name Position
Jordan Cameron TE
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GuNNerGatSKy said:
ROSTER
SIGNED PLAYERS
Name Position Cap Hit
Brian Hoyer QB 3,200,000
Randall Cobb WR 7,875,000 - Packers won't let him go (what about Dwayne Bowe?)
Miles Austin WR 1,200,000
Doug Legursky C 2,000,000
Ndamukong Suh DT 8,955,000 - Not worth it plus it will cost more than this (we should grab DT in the draft)
Brian Orakpo OLB 6,020,000
Buster Skrine CB 2,100,000
CUT - Can't argue with this list
Name Position
Gary Barnidge TE
Travis Benjamin WR
Michael Bowie T
Darius Eubanks OLB
Nick McDonald G
Garrett Hartley K
Paul McQuistan T
Robert Nelson CB
Jamie Meder DT
RESTRUCTURED
Name Position
TRANSITION TAGGED
Name Position
Jordan Cameron TE
GuNNerGatSKy said:
ROSTER
SIGNED PLAYERS
Name Position Cap Hit
Brian Hoyer QB 3,200,000
Randall Cobb WR 7,875,000 - Packers won't let him go (what about Dwayne Bowe?)
No thanks on Bowe. Regardless of what the packers may do, and they may just do what they have done in the past and let him go like they did James Jones..... and let Davante step in as the number two.
I think Cobb and is worth 11-13 mil a year. He is a fantastic receiver and would be a great Gordo insurance policy. Plus I think Cobb could show Gordo a little bit of this and a little bit of that and maybe get him back on track.
Miles Austin WR 1,200,000
Doug Legursky C 2,000,000
Ndamukong Suh DT 8,955,000 - Not worth it plus it will cost more than this (we should grab DT in the draft)
I do not think you can argue that he is not worth it. He is far and away the best DT in the NFL. If we signed him I would look to see Pettine use more four down linemen sets and line up Suh all over the place. Plus I like his nasty, vicious demeanor on the field. Players fear that man.
Brian Orakpo OLB 6,020,000
Buster Skrine CB 2,100,000
CUT - Can't argue with this list
Name Position
Gary Barnidge TE
Travis Benjamin WR
Michael Bowie T
Darius Eubanks OLB
Nick McDonald G
Garrett Hartley K
Paul McQuistan T
Robert Nelson CB
Jamie Meder DT
RESTRUCTURED
Name Position
TRANSITION TAGGED
Name Position
Jordan Cameron TE
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Some willy-nilly roster cuttin' goin' on...
Interesting to do this combined with the FanSpeak Draft sim which is also now running... or better yet the First-Pick sim which is also up now. Then can see what kind of team you will field.
SPOILER ALERT: In the FanSpeak draft you will occasionally get a shot at Jameis with your 12th pick.
On Benji... sadly I have to agree that his time may have passed. In his 2.5 years of play (discounting for 1/2 year lost to injury) the catch total is low, but as a percentage of targets it's abysmal, in the low 40's, and 2014 was the worst yet. Add that in 2014 his return contributions hovered around nil and he's not a good use of a spot any longer.
I said he was a track guy playing football when we drafted him and he kinda turned out that way, but he had a chance to be better. I thought he was horribly misused by Shurmur and only slightly better by Chud. Both seemed to think of Bneji only for fly routes. Shanny seemed to get that he had out and cross capability.
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Doesn't seem that fun.
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i don't get it.
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Been up for a while now.
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=31736
More work than fun... kinda like FanSpeak's Draft sim vs. this FA sim.
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It's fun to combine the two, the FA sim and the draft sim.
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