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  • Browns149B Browns149

    WOW I didn't realize that Benji only had 70 catches in 3 years. CYA

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    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
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    @browns149 said:

    WOW I didn't realize that Benji only had 70 catches in 3 years. CYA

    thats 40 catches actually(not 70)......or 0.8 a game.....or 14 yards a game.....for 3 years now....

    here's another way to look at it.....this year some felt Benji had stepped up his game...he had some nice catches(yes)....some TD's(3).....then Josh Gordon came back and "most people" thought he totally sucked/tanked/slacked(which he did)....right?......so Benji improved and Josh sucked....we can all agree on that, right?

    Yet....here are their final #'s for 2014...

    Benji....16 games....18 catches for 314 yds <<<< these are not good #'s

    Josh.... .5 games....24 catches for 303 yds

    or, for more perspective, in his last year here....Mr. Superstar himself ....

    Greg Little....16 games....53 catches for 650.......so, Greg little did WAY more in one year, than Benji did in 3.....

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      Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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      I'm not a Benji fan, but he was much quicker before the injury. I think you bring him back with hopes that he got his quicks back the second year after surgery, otherwise you cut him because he's not to valuable when he isn't faster than everyone.

      Zombo

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        He's mediocre and taking a roster spot from a younger, faster guy with more potential.

        Benjamin the project is done.

        You couldn't be more dead wrong.. He made some tough catches this past season.. I'm with PGL on this one.. Travis will be going into his 3rd season and , I expect good things from him.

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        Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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        @nickers said:

        You couldn't be more dead wrong.. He made some tough catches this past season.. I'm with PGL on this one.. Travis will be going into his 3rd season and , I expect good things from him.

        Expect all you want. Doesn't mean he's going to produce. The guy has less than 1,000 receiving yards for his career. His punt return and kick return skills aren't especially elite, either. There were late round rookies across the league outperforming him last year and Benjamin eventually lost the job to Leonhard.

        Sure, he's quick. But Andrew Hawkins is quicker. Andrew Hawkins is also a better receiver.

        It's a business. Benjamin was a good project, and I'm sure he's a great guy. But the cost of keeping him outweighs the benefits.

        I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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          @nickers said:

          You couldn't be more dead wrong.. He made some tough catches this past season.. I'm with PGL on this one.. Travis will be going into his 3rd season and , I expect good things from him.

          Expect all you want. Doesn't mean he's going to produce. The guy has less than 1,000 receiving yards for his career. His punt return and kick return skills aren't especially elite, either. There were late round rookies across the league outperforming him last year and Benjamin eventually lost the job to Leonhard.

          Sure, he's quick. But Andrew Hawkins is quicker. Andrew Hawkins is also a better receiver.

          It's a business. Benjamin was a good project, and I'm sure he's a great guy. But the cost of keeping him outweighs the benefits.

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          MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

          Sure, he's quick. But Andrew Hawkins is quicker. Andrew Hawkins is also a better receiver.

          .

          Add Taylor Gabriel to the mix.....he had double the catches and yards....as a rookie!.....and he's also small(and faster).....how many tiny/fast guys do we need?.....Im with you tcpo, Hawkins and Gabe are enough....

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            G GuNNerGatSKi wrote on last edited by
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            ROSTER

            SIGNED PLAYERS

            Name Position Cap Hit

            Brian Hoyer QB 3,200,000

            Randall Cobb WR 7,875,000

            Miles Austin WR 1,200,000

            Doug Legursky C 2,000,000

            Ndamukong Suh DT 8,955,000

            Brian Orakpo OLB 6,020,000

            Buster Skrine CB 2,100,000

            CUT

            Name Position

            Gary Barnidge TE

            Travis Benjamin WR

            Michael Bowie T

            Darius Eubanks OLB

            Nick McDonald G

            Garrett Hartley K

            Paul McQuistan T

            Robert Nelson CB

            Jamie Meder DT

            RESTRUCTURED

            Name Position

            TRANSITION TAGGED

            Name Position

            Jordan Cameron TE

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              ROSTER

              SIGNED PLAYERS

              Name Position Cap Hit

              Brian Hoyer QB 3,200,000

              Randall Cobb WR 7,875,000

              Miles Austin WR 1,200,000

              Doug Legursky C 2,000,000

              Ndamukong Suh DT 8,955,000

              Brian Orakpo OLB 6,020,000

              Buster Skrine CB 2,100,000

              CUT

              Name Position

              Gary Barnidge TE

              Travis Benjamin WR

              Michael Bowie T

              Darius Eubanks OLB

              Nick McDonald G

              Garrett Hartley K

              Paul McQuistan T

              Robert Nelson CB

              Jamie Meder DT

              RESTRUCTURED

              Name Position

              TRANSITION TAGGED

              Name Position

              Jordan Cameron TE

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              B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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              GuNNerGatSKy said:

              ROSTER

              SIGNED PLAYERS

              Name Position Cap Hit

              Brian Hoyer QB 3,200,000

              Randall Cobb WR 7,875,000 - Packers won't let him go (what about Dwayne Bowe?)

              Miles Austin WR 1,200,000

              Doug Legursky C 2,000,000

              Ndamukong Suh DT 8,955,000 - Not worth it plus it will cost more than this (we should grab DT in the draft)

              Brian Orakpo OLB 6,020,000

              Buster Skrine CB 2,100,000

              CUT - Can't argue with this list

              Name Position

              Gary Barnidge TE

              Travis Benjamin WR

              Michael Bowie T

              Darius Eubanks OLB

              Nick McDonald G

              Garrett Hartley K

              Paul McQuistan T

              Robert Nelson CB

              Jamie Meder DT

              RESTRUCTURED

              Name Position

              TRANSITION TAGGED

              Name Position

              Jordan Cameron TE

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                GuNNerGatSKy said:

                ROSTER

                SIGNED PLAYERS

                Name Position Cap Hit

                Brian Hoyer QB 3,200,000

                Randall Cobb WR 7,875,000 - Packers won't let him go (what about Dwayne Bowe?)

                Miles Austin WR 1,200,000

                Doug Legursky C 2,000,000

                Ndamukong Suh DT 8,955,000 - Not worth it plus it will cost more than this (we should grab DT in the draft)

                Brian Orakpo OLB 6,020,000

                Buster Skrine CB 2,100,000

                CUT - Can't argue with this list

                Name Position

                Gary Barnidge TE

                Travis Benjamin WR

                Michael Bowie T

                Darius Eubanks OLB

                Nick McDonald G

                Garrett Hartley K

                Paul McQuistan T

                Robert Nelson CB

                Jamie Meder DT

                RESTRUCTURED

                Name Position

                TRANSITION TAGGED

                Name Position

                Jordan Cameron TE

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                G GuNNerGatSKi wrote on last edited by
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                @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                GuNNerGatSKy said:

                ROSTER

                SIGNED PLAYERS

                Name Position Cap Hit

                Brian Hoyer QB 3,200,000

                Randall Cobb WR 7,875,000 - Packers won't let him go (what about Dwayne Bowe?)

                No thanks on Bowe. Regardless of what the packers may do, and they may just do what they have done in the past and let him go like they did James Jones..... and let Davante step in as the number two.

                I think Cobb and is worth 11-13 mil a year. He is a fantastic receiver and would be a great Gordo insurance policy. Plus I think Cobb could show Gordo a little bit of this and a little bit of that and maybe get him back on track.

                Miles Austin WR 1,200,000

                Doug Legursky C 2,000,000

                Ndamukong Suh DT 8,955,000 - Not worth it plus it will cost more than this (we should grab DT in the draft)

                I do not think you can argue that he is not worth it. He is far and away the best DT in the NFL. If we signed him I would look to see Pettine use more four down linemen sets and line up Suh all over the place. Plus I like his nasty, vicious demeanor on the field. Players fear that man.

                Brian Orakpo OLB 6,020,000

                Buster Skrine CB 2,100,000

                CUT - Can't argue with this list

                Name Position

                Gary Barnidge TE

                Travis Benjamin WR

                Michael Bowie T

                Darius Eubanks OLB

                Nick McDonald G

                Garrett Hartley K

                Paul McQuistan T

                Robert Nelson CB

                Jamie Meder DT

                RESTRUCTURED

                Name Position

                TRANSITION TAGGED

                Name Position

                Jordan Cameron TE

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  Some willy-nilly roster cuttin' goin' on...

                  Interesting to do this combined with the FanSpeak Draft sim which is also now running... or better yet the First-Pick sim which is also up now. Then can see what kind of team you will field.

                  SPOILER ALERT: In the FanSpeak draft you will occasionally get a shot at Jameis with your 12th pick.

                  On Benji... sadly I have to agree that his time may have passed. In his 2.5 years of play (discounting for 1/2 year lost to injury) the catch total is low, but as a percentage of targets it's abysmal, in the low 40's, and 2014 was the worst yet. Add that in 2014 his return contributions hovered around nil and he's not a good use of a spot any longer.

                  I said he was a track guy playing football when we drafted him and he kinda turned out that way, but he had a chance to be better. I thought he was horribly misused by Shurmur and only slightly better by Chud. Both seemed to think of Bneji only for fly routes. Shanny seemed to get that he had out and cross capability.

                  "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                    http://fanspeak.com/mtc/

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      Doesn't seem that fun.

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                        i don't get it.

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          Been up for a while now.

                          http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=31736

                          More work than fun... kinda like FanSpeak's Draft sim vs. this FA sim.

                          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                            It's fun to combine the two, the FA sim and the draft sim.

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