What receiver do we go after in draft/FA?
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Whatever receiver the Browns pick I hope he has some height.
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Free Agent options: Cecil Shorts, Jeremy Maclin, Michael Crabtree, Torrey Smith, Randall Cobb, Michael Crabtree, Denarious Thomas,
Draft options: Amari Cooper, Devante Parker, Kevin White, Sammy Coates, Justin Hardy, Jaelen Strong, Devin Smith, Ty Montgomery, Nelson Algalor, Rashad Greene...
Who do you want?
i think if any of those fa even hear the word browns by their agents, they will all be fired...no one in their right mind would want to come to this pos organization..me thinks those guys want to win a championship...not be a cellar dweller
i think if any of those fa even hear the word browns by their agents, they will all be fired...no one in their right mind would want to come to this pos organization..me thinks those guys want to win a championship...not be a cellar dweller
Cecil Shorts is from Cleveland, so maybe he'll want to come home
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Quite possible, TC, but Flip made a point to emphasize a continuation of established WCO/ZBS principles in his intro presser... not to exclusion of any change, but in the "by and large" sense.
Quite possible, TC, but Flip made a point to emphasize a continuation of established WCO/ZBS principles in his intro presser... not to exclusion of any change, but in the "by and large" sense.
Truth be told, we weren't running a WCO with Shanahan anyway. The core identity of a WCO is "pass to set up the run", which is not what our identity was.
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Quite possible, TC, but Flip made a point to emphasize a continuation of established WCO/ZBS principles in his intro presser... not to exclusion of any change, but in the "by and large" sense.
Truth be told, we weren't running a WCO with Shanahan anyway. The core identity of a WCO is "pass to set up the run", which is not what our identity was.
Truth be told, we weren't running a WCO with Shanahan anyway. The core identity of a WCO is "pass to set up the run", which is not what our identity was.
Not true at all, case in point - the Broncos teams of the 90's. WCO really identifies with the play language, play concepts, timing, execution and route designs.
It has nothing to do with passing to run. This "pass to run" its a common myth.
edit: I also wouldn't go as far as saying the Browns offense is exclusively anything under Shanny except the underlying common of ZBS. Sure there were plenty of timing routes,
also plenty of option routes for our receivers as well, which isn't necessarily the guiding factor in a timing based offense.
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Quite possible, TC, but Flip made a point to emphasize a continuation of established WCO/ZBS principles in his intro presser... not to exclusion of any change, but in the "by and large" sense.
Truth be told, we weren't running a WCO with Shanahan anyway. The core identity of a WCO is "pass to set up the run", which is not what our identity was.
Well....my interpretation says you're both right, as the WCO has evolved and changed a lot.....due to the different coaches who have implemented it...
The core identity of a WCO is "pass to set up the run"
With Walsh, it really was originally used in lieu of the run.....IE....lots of screens and dump passes to the backs in normal running situations.....then, the random run out of the blue.....
It has nothing to do with passing to run. This "pass to run" its a common myth.
Modern WCO implements a more traditional run style, but uses 4 receiver sets and lots of motion & shifts.....then liberal use of shorter slant & swing routes....
Meaning, NOW all the receivers are more involved in the short game, when it used to be more about the backs...
So, in principle, the WCO is(and has been) all about quick hitting short plays....mostly via pass.....which set up run opportunities that come randomly and cannot be predicted easily by the D....
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Well....my interpretation says you're both right, as the WCO has evolved and changed a lot.....due to the different coaches who have implemented it...
The core identity of a WCO is "pass to set up the run"
With Walsh, it really was originally used in lieu of the run.....IE....lots of screens and dump passes to the backs in normal running situations.....then, the random run out of the blue.....
It has nothing to do with passing to run. This "pass to run" its a common myth.
Modern WCO implements a more traditional run style, but uses 4 receiver sets and lots of motion & shifts.....then liberal use of shorter slant & swing routes....
Meaning, NOW all the receivers are more involved in the short game, when it used to be more about the backs...
So, in principle, the WCO is(and has been) all about quick hitting short plays....mostly via pass.....which set up run opportunities that come randomly and cannot be predicted easily by the D....
Well....my interpretation says you're both right, as the WCO has evolved and changed a lot.....due to the different coaches who have implemented it...
With Walsh, it really was originally used in lieu of the run.....IE....lots of screens and dump passes to the backs in normal running situations.....then, the random run out of the blue.....
Modern WCO implements a more traditional run style, but uses 4 receiver sets and lots of motion & shifts.....then liberal use of shorter slant & swing routes....
Meaning, NOW all the receivers are more involved in the short game, when it used to be more about the backs...
So, in principle, the WCO is(and has been) all about quick hitting short plays....mostly via pass.....which set up run opportunities that come randomly and cannot be predicted easily by the D....
Look, man - trying to talk foosball here. Take that shit to the Poli forum!
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Well....my interpretation says you're both right, as the WCO has evolved and changed a lot.....due to the different coaches who have implemented it...
The core identity of a WCO is "pass to set up the run"
With Walsh, it really was originally used in lieu of the run.....IE....lots of screens and dump passes to the backs in normal running situations.....then, the random run out of the blue.....
It has nothing to do with passing to run. This "pass to run" its a common myth.
Modern WCO implements a more traditional run style, but uses 4 receiver sets and lots of motion & shifts.....then liberal use of shorter slant & swing routes....
Meaning, NOW all the receivers are more involved in the short game, when it used to be more about the backs...
So, in principle, the WCO is(and has been) all about quick hitting short plays....mostly via pass.....which set up run opportunities that come randomly and cannot be predicted easily by the D....
So, in principle, the WCO is(and has been) all about quick hitting short plays... which set up run opportunities that come randomly and cannot be predicted easily by the D....
... with success in the run then setting up intermediate, and deeper, throws off play action.
This captures what I think of when I think "WCO". It was what we saw when Hoyer was effective early and the line was intact.
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Truth be told, we weren't running a WCO with Shanahan anyway. The core identity of a WCO is "pass to set up the run", which is not what our identity was.
Not true at all, case in point - the Broncos teams of the 90's. WCO really identifies with the play language, play concepts, timing, execution and route designs.
It has nothing to do with passing to run. This "pass to run" its a common myth.
edit: I also wouldn't go as far as saying the Browns offense is exclusively anything under Shanny except the underlying common of ZBS. Sure there were plenty of timing routes,
also plenty of option routes for our receivers as well, which isn't necessarily the guiding factor in a timing based offense.
Not true at all, case in point - the Broncos teams of the 90's. WCO really identifies with the play language, play concepts, timing, execution and route designs.
It has nothing to do with passing to run. This "pass to run" its a common myth.
edit: I also wouldn't go as far as saying the Browns offense is exclusively anything under Shanny except the underlying common of ZBS. Sure there were plenty of timing routes,
also plenty of option routes for our receivers as well, which isn't necessarily the guiding factor in a timing based offense.
That's completely wrong. The "common myth" that you're claiming my description is happens to be closer to the truth than what you described. The West Coast Offense isn't a playcalling system. There is no official "WCO" play calling nomenclature. It is a philosophy of using short to intermediate passes as a supplement and, in some cases, replacement to the running game in order to keep the defense honest.
What you're describing (nomenclature, etc) is the misappropriation of the term, started by our own Bernie Kosar, when WCO was erroneously used to describe the Air Coryell offense.
The Air Coryell offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. The Air Raid Offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. But the West Coast Offense in and of itself is a philosophy...not an actual offensive playbook.
The whole "WCO uses long playcall strings" simply stems from the fact that Walsh himself like long playcall strings and that he had a West Coast philosophy. Paul Brown, who invented the WCO, had varying play call strings that changed from year to year.
"In American football, the "West Coast offense" is an offense that places a greater emphasis on passing than on running."
An offensive philosophy in football that utilizes short, high percentage passes as the foundation of a ball-control offense. More of a philosophy on how to conduct a play than a specific formation.
"The 'West Coast Offense' still amounts to nothing more than the total attention to detail and an appreciation for every facet of offensive football and refinement of those things that are needed to provide an environment that allows people to perform at maximum levels of self-actualization"
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Not true at all, case in point - the Broncos teams of the 90's. WCO really identifies with the play language, play concepts, timing, execution and route designs.
It has nothing to do with passing to run. This "pass to run" its a common myth.
edit: I also wouldn't go as far as saying the Browns offense is exclusively anything under Shanny except the underlying common of ZBS. Sure there were plenty of timing routes,
also plenty of option routes for our receivers as well, which isn't necessarily the guiding factor in a timing based offense.
That's completely wrong. The "common myth" that you're claiming my description is happens to be closer to the truth than what you described. The West Coast Offense isn't a playcalling system. There is no official "WCO" play calling nomenclature. It is a philosophy of using short to intermediate passes as a supplement and, in some cases, replacement to the running game in order to keep the defense honest.
What you're describing (nomenclature, etc) is the misappropriation of the term, started by our own Bernie Kosar, when WCO was erroneously used to describe the Air Coryell offense.
The Air Coryell offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. The Air Raid Offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. But the West Coast Offense in and of itself is a philosophy...not an actual offensive playbook.
The whole "WCO uses long playcall strings" simply stems from the fact that Walsh himself like long playcall strings and that he had a West Coast philosophy. Paul Brown, who invented the WCO, had varying play call strings that changed from year to year.
"In American football, the "West Coast offense" is an offense that places a greater emphasis on passing than on running."
An offensive philosophy in football that utilizes short, high percentage passes as the foundation of a ball-control offense. More of a philosophy on how to conduct a play than a specific formation.
"The 'West Coast Offense' still amounts to nothing more than the total attention to detail and an appreciation for every facet of offensive football and refinement of those things that are needed to provide an environment that allows people to perform at maximum levels of self-actualization"
That's completely wrong. The "common myth" that you're claiming my description is happens to be closer to the truth than what you described. The West Coast Offense isn't a playcalling system. There is no official "WCO" play calling nomenclature. It is a philosophy of using short to intermediate passes as a supplement and, in some cases, replacement to the running game in order to keep the defense honest.
What you're describing (timing, nomenclature, route depths, etc) is the misappropriation of the term, started by our own Bernie Kosar, when WCO was erroneously used to describe the Air Coryell offense.
The Air Coryell offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. The Air Raid Offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. But the West Coast Offense in and of itself is a philosophy...not an actual offensive playbook.
The whole "WCO uses long playcall strings" simply stems from the fact that Walsh himself like long playcall strings and that he had a West Coast philosophy. Paul Brown, who invented the WCO, had varying play call strings that changed from year to year.
I'm well aware of the philosophy, however the modern WyCo involves play calling nomenclature that's easy to pick up when receivers are tagged. Especially in offenses that are up tempo or no huddle. If you wanted receivers to be tagged outside of a designated number/route tree, that's when a longer play call comes into the picture.
And if I'm wrong in what I'm stating with route depths and such, then why does your second quote say "short, high percentage passes"...? That would kind of prove my point, would it not?
edit: Again, the evolution of the WyCo is that its flexible on run or pass. You can see as mentioned, the modern installment when run sets up pass. Especially for teams that don't have elite receiver talent and need to get their players in more one on one situations.
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Not true at all, case in point - the Broncos teams of the 90's. WCO really identifies with the play language, play concepts, timing, execution and route designs.
It has nothing to do with passing to run. This "pass to run" its a common myth.
edit: I also wouldn't go as far as saying the Browns offense is exclusively anything under Shanny except the underlying common of ZBS. Sure there were plenty of timing routes,
also plenty of option routes for our receivers as well, which isn't necessarily the guiding factor in a timing based offense.
That's completely wrong. The "common myth" that you're claiming my description is happens to be closer to the truth than what you described. The West Coast Offense isn't a playcalling system. There is no official "WCO" play calling nomenclature. It is a philosophy of using short to intermediate passes as a supplement and, in some cases, replacement to the running game in order to keep the defense honest.
What you're describing (nomenclature, etc) is the misappropriation of the term, started by our own Bernie Kosar, when WCO was erroneously used to describe the Air Coryell offense.
The Air Coryell offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. The Air Raid Offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. But the West Coast Offense in and of itself is a philosophy...not an actual offensive playbook.
The whole "WCO uses long playcall strings" simply stems from the fact that Walsh himself like long playcall strings and that he had a West Coast philosophy. Paul Brown, who invented the WCO, had varying play call strings that changed from year to year.
"In American football, the "West Coast offense" is an offense that places a greater emphasis on passing than on running."
An offensive philosophy in football that utilizes short, high percentage passes as the foundation of a ball-control offense. More of a philosophy on how to conduct a play than a specific formation.
"The 'West Coast Offense' still amounts to nothing more than the total attention to detail and an appreciation for every facet of offensive football and refinement of those things that are needed to provide an environment that allows people to perform at maximum levels of self-actualization"
It is a philosophy of using short to intermediate passes as a supplement and, in some cases, replacement to the running game in order to keep the defense honest.
What you're describing (timing, nomenclature, route depths, etc) is the misappropriation of the term, started by our own Bernie Kosar, when WCO was erroneously used to describe the Air Coryell offense.
The Air Coryell offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. The Air Raid Offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. But the West Coast Offense in and of itself is a philosophy...not an actual offensive playbook.
The whole "WCO uses long playcall strings" simply stems from the fact that Walsh himself like long playcall strings and that he had a West Coast philosophy. Paul Brown, who invented the WCO, had varying play call strings that changed from year to year.
Yet it's not called the "Ohio River Offense"...
Too bad... has a nice ring to it.I know the seeds were sewn in Cinci under Brown, but by all accounts I know his assistant, Bill Walsh was the architect who was restrained by Brown. Not until Walsh took it to SF was the offense fully unleashed and the WCO born.
But, yes... high-percentage passing to supplement the run is to my mind a great, capsule summary of the WCO.
On the other hand... I did not know about Bernie mislabeling "Air Coryell" as WCO.
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That's completely wrong. The "common myth" that you're claiming my description is happens to be closer to the truth than what you described. The West Coast Offense isn't a playcalling system. There is no official "WCO" play calling nomenclature. It is a philosophy of using short to intermediate passes as a supplement and, in some cases, replacement to the running game in order to keep the defense honest.
What you're describing (timing, nomenclature, route depths, etc) is the misappropriation of the term, started by our own Bernie Kosar, when WCO was erroneously used to describe the Air Coryell offense.
The Air Coryell offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. The Air Raid Offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. But the West Coast Offense in and of itself is a philosophy...not an actual offensive playbook.
The whole "WCO uses long playcall strings" simply stems from the fact that Walsh himself like long playcall strings and that he had a West Coast philosophy. Paul Brown, who invented the WCO, had varying play call strings that changed from year to year.
I'm well aware of the philosophy, however the modern WyCo involves play calling nomenclature that's easy to pick up when receivers are tagged. Especially in offenses that are up tempo or no huddle. If you wanted receivers to be tagged outside of a designated number/route tree, that's when a longer play call comes into the picture.
And if I'm wrong in what I'm stating with route depths and such, then why does your second quote say "short, high percentage passes"...? That would kind of prove my point, would it not?
edit: Again, the evolution of the WyCo is that its flexible on run or pass. You can see as mentioned, the modern installment when run sets up pass. Especially for teams that don't have elite receiver talent and need to get their players in more one on one situations.
I'm well aware of the philosophy, however the modern WyCo involves play calling nomenclature that's easy to pick up when receivers are tagged. Especially in offenses that are up tempo or no huddle. If you wanted receivers to be tagged outside of a designated number/route tree, that's when a longer play call comes into the picture.
And if I'm wrong in what I'm stating with route depths and such, then why does your second quote say "short, high percentage passes"...? That would kind of prove my point, would it not?
edit: Again, the evolution of the WyCo is that its flexible on run or pass. You can see as mentioned, the modern installment when run sets up pass. Especially for teams that don't have elite receiver talent and need to get their players in more one on one situations.
I see what you're saying, and I get that there are common names and designations that have been carried over from coach to coach.
You're not wrong about route depths and such. That is what I'm saying. The WCO is the philosophy behind the plays being run, not the play names themselves. Concepts, timing, etc, those are right on.
Brown Right Deuce Jet Flanker Drive can be the same as Horton Belly 361, just depends on the coach.
You were more correct than I gave you credit for, I just saw language and kind of stopped reading.
That's completely wrong. The "common myth" that you're claiming my description is happens to be closer to the truth than what you described. The West Coast Offense isn't a playcalling system. There is no official "WCO" play calling nomenclature. It is a philosophy of using short to intermediate passes as a supplement and, in some cases, replacement to the running game in order to keep the defense honest.
What you're describing (nomenclature, etc) is the misappropriation of the term, started by our own Bernie Kosar, when WCO was erroneously used to describe the Air Coryell offense.
The Air Coryell offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. The Air Raid Offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. But the West Coast Offense in and of itself is a philosophy...not an actual offensive playbook.
The whole "WCO uses long playcall strings" simply stems from the fact that Walsh himself like long playcall strings and that he had a West Coast philosophy. Paul Brown, who invented the WCO, had varying play call strings that changed from year to year.
Yet it's not called the "Ohio River Offense"...
Too bad... has a nice ring to it.I know the seeds were sewn in Cinci under Brown, but by all accounts I know his assistant, Bill Walsh was the architect who was restrained by Brown. Not until Walsh took it to SF was the offense fully unleashed and the WCO born.
But, yes... high-percentage passing to supplement the run is to my mind a great, capsule summary of the WCO.
On the other hand... I did not know about Bernie mislabeling "Air Coryell" as WCO.
Yep. When he played with Dallas, if I'm not mistaken.
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I'm well aware of the philosophy, however the modern WyCo involves play calling nomenclature that's easy to pick up when receivers are tagged. Especially in offenses that are up tempo or no huddle. If you wanted receivers to be tagged outside of a designated number/route tree, that's when a longer play call comes into the picture.
And if I'm wrong in what I'm stating with route depths and such, then why does your second quote say "short, high percentage passes"...? That would kind of prove my point, would it not?
edit: Again, the evolution of the WyCo is that its flexible on run or pass. You can see as mentioned, the modern installment when run sets up pass. Especially for teams that don't have elite receiver talent and need to get their players in more one on one situations.
I see what you're saying, and I get that there are common names and designations that have been carried over from coach to coach.
You're not wrong about route depths and such. That is what I'm saying. The WCO is the philosophy behind the plays being run, not the play names themselves. Concepts, timing, etc, those are right on.
Brown Right Deuce Jet Flanker Drive can be the same as Horton Belly 361, just depends on the coach.
You were more correct than I gave you credit for, I just saw language and kind of stopped reading.
That's completely wrong. The "common myth" that you're claiming my description is happens to be closer to the truth than what you described. The West Coast Offense isn't a playcalling system. There is no official "WCO" play calling nomenclature. It is a philosophy of using short to intermediate passes as a supplement and, in some cases, replacement to the running game in order to keep the defense honest.
What you're describing (nomenclature, etc) is the misappropriation of the term, started by our own Bernie Kosar, when WCO was erroneously used to describe the Air Coryell offense.
The Air Coryell offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. The Air Raid Offense is a subset of the West Coast Offense. But the West Coast Offense in and of itself is a philosophy...not an actual offensive playbook.
The whole "WCO uses long playcall strings" simply stems from the fact that Walsh himself like long playcall strings and that he had a West Coast philosophy. Paul Brown, who invented the WCO, had varying play call strings that changed from year to year.
Yet it's not called the "Ohio River Offense"...
Too bad... has a nice ring to it.I know the seeds were sewn in Cinci under Brown, but by all accounts I know his assistant, Bill Walsh was the architect who was restrained by Brown. Not until Walsh took it to SF was the offense fully unleashed and the WCO born.
But, yes... high-percentage passing to supplement the run is to my mind a great, capsule summary of the WCO.
On the other hand... I did not know about Bernie mislabeling "Air Coryell" as WCO.
Yep. When he played with Dallas, if I'm not mistaken.
I see what you're saying, and I get that there are common names and designations that have been carried over from coach to coach.
You're not wrong about route depths and such. That is what I'm saying. The WCO is the philosophy behind the plays being run, not the play names themselves. Concepts, timing, etc, those are right on.
Brown Right Deuce Jet Flanker Drive can be the same as Horton Belly 361, just depends on the coach.
You were more correct than I gave you credit for, I just saw language and kind of stopped reading.
Yep. When he played with Dallas, if I'm not mistaken.
I have a feeling we're saying a lot of the same things, just minor confusion on how we convey them between one another. Carry on, sir.
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Jaelen Strong
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We pick at 12= WR White or Danny Shelton. We pick at 19= WR Funchess or WR Coats. We pass on(Peat, Clemmings, Flowers, Collins, Erving and Cann on OL. We pick at 43= WR Green-Beckem, J. Strong, N. Agholor, Devin Smith and T. Lippett. We pass on D. Perryman and many other needs. We pick at 77 and there is the STEAL Tyler Lockett WR and we pass on Trey Depriest ILB, Laken Tominson OG, Corey Robinson OT and WR Ty Montgomery. AND YES I KNOW IT'S STILL EARLY
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Watched Texas vs OU last night while attempting to sleep. Still want Malcolm Brown. He was destructive or drew a double team on damn near every play. I also think it allows this team a little head room should we think of swapping picks with Philly in case they feel threatened of losing a top OLB prospect such as Fowler. It's only one spot, we get another mid round pick.
I'm surprised nobody is mentioning Striker out of OU. He's undersized for the position but I think he'd be a hell of a situational pass rusher for a mid round pick. Good burst, natural ability to dip his hips and fluid in space.
In response to Gumby. No to Funchess and no to Coates in the 1st round. Honestly, no to Funchess, period. His hands have cost him from time to time. Sorry, I still have memories of Braylon fresh. I'd have no issue with Devin or Lockett at 43, if possible.
Shelton checked in at the senior bowl with added weight. This is the time you want to be in peak condition for scouts. I just see the kid as an injury risk and someone that will show up to mini camp overweight. Massive NG/T with 15-20 weight fluctuations? No thanks.
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Right their with you on both WR's at pick 19, Too many good OL to pass up at 19. The slot to get a good WR is at 43 our 1st 2nd round pick. But do you pass on Perryman and other needs?? I go with yea, due to we have no featured WR at this time and still need C. Shorts to come home.
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.. or not have a true #1.
What has been said that gives any indication Farmer values WRs high enough to spend a 1?
What about last season indicated that a #1 was important to our offense?
Step 1: Resign Austin
Step 2: Sign Shorts
Step 3: see what value falls to us in the draft.
.. or not have a true #1.
What has been said that gives any indication Farmer values WRs high enough to spend a 1?
What about last season indicated that a #1 was important to our offense?
Step 1: Resign Austin
Step 2: Sign Shorts
Step 3: see what value falls to us in the draft.
A good #1 will stretch the field. The Browns did this successfully with Cameron at the TE position but due to the lack of speed/position on the line, it takes a bit longer for that to develop so protection needs to hold longer.
Austin is ok as is Shorts, neither a difference maker. The draft at 19 if you get the guy wouldn't be terrible.
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Watched Texas vs OU last night while attempting to sleep. Still want Malcolm Brown. He was destructive or drew a double team on damn near every play. I also think it allows this team a little head room should we think of swapping picks with Philly in case they feel threatened of losing a top OLB prospect such as Fowler. It's only one spot, we get another mid round pick.
I'm surprised nobody is mentioning Striker out of OU. He's undersized for the position but I think he'd be a hell of a situational pass rusher for a mid round pick. Good burst, natural ability to dip his hips and fluid in space.
In response to Gumby. No to Funchess and no to Coates in the 1st round. Honestly, no to Funchess, period. His hands have cost him from time to time. Sorry, I still have memories of Braylon fresh. I'd have no issue with Devin or Lockett at 43, if possible.
Shelton checked in at the senior bowl with added weight. This is the time you want to be in peak condition for scouts. I just see the kid as an injury risk and someone that will show up to mini camp overweight. Massive NG/T with 15-20 weight fluctuations? No thanks.
Watched Texas vs OU last night while attempting to sleep. Still want Malcolm Brown. He was destructive or drew a double team on damn near every play. I also think it allows this team a little head room should we think of swapping picks with Philly in case they feel threatened of losing a top OLB prospect such as Fowler. It's only one spot, we get another mid round pick.
I'm surprised nobody is mentioning Striker out of OU. He's undersized for the position but I think he'd be a hell of a situational pass rusher for a mid round pick. Good burst, natural ability to dip his hips and fluid in space.
In response to Gumby. No to Funchess and no to Coates in the 1st round. Honestly, no to Funchess, period. His hands have cost him from time to time. Sorry, I still have memories of Braylon fresh. I'd have no issue with Devin or Lockett at 43, if possible.
Shelton checked in at the senior bowl with added weight. This is the time you want to be in peak condition for scouts. I just see the kid as an injury risk and someone that will show up to mini camp overweight. Massive NG/T with 15-20 weight fluctuations? No thanks.
I've been an OU fan since the mid 80s, Striker is coming back for his senior season.
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