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  • You guys are insane...

    Alleged Rape, Theft, and Disorderly Conduct

    is somehow worse than

    NO ARRESTS, Going to Parties, and Being late to a Hamstring Massage?

    Man...

  • You guys are insane...

    Alleged Rape, Theft, and Disorderly Conduct

    is somehow worse than

    NO ARRESTS, Going to Parties, and Being late to a Hamstring Massage?

    Man...

    @playgroundlegend said:

    You guys are insane...

    Alleged Rape, Theft, and Disorderly Conduct

    is somehow worse than

    NO ARRESTS, Going to Parties, and Being late to a Hamstring Massage?

    Man...

    um...dont you have that backwards?

  • No.. Im saying Im baffled about how people here somehow think Manziel is worse off the field than Winston..

    The hate is insane

  • No.. Im saying Im baffled about how people here somehow think Manziel is worse off the field than Winston..

    The hate is insane

    @playgroundlegend said:

    No.. Im saying Im baffled about how people here somehow think Manziel is worse off the field than Winston..

    The hate is insane

    Winston's legal baggage may be worse but he appears to care about football. Sure Manziel doesnt appear to be in any legal trouble, but he hasn't shown that he gives a shit about football. So who do you want on the team? A guy with legal issues with upside or a partier that doesn't give a shit about football..?

  • @playgroundlegend said:

    No.. Im saying Im baffled about how people here somehow think Manziel is worse off the field than Winston..

    The hate is insane

    Winston's legal baggage may be worse but he appears to care about football. Sure Manziel doesnt appear to be in any legal trouble, but he hasn't shown that he gives a shit about football. So who do you want on the team? A guy with legal issues with upside or a partier that doesn't give a shit about football..?

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    So who do you want on the team? A guy with legal issues with upside or a partier that doesn't give a shit about football..?

    neither. and thats the main point.

    who cares which one is the biggest asshole???

  • There is only one way the hate for JM goes away here and that is for him to take care of business, arrive early, stay late and move this team on offense. Is that possible? Yes.

    Probable-only JM knows for sure.

  • There is only one way the hate for JM goes away here and that is for him to take care of business, arrive early, stay late and move this team on offense. Is that possible? Yes.

    Probable-only JM knows for sure.

    @texasag1969 said:

    There is only one way the hate for JM goes away here and that is for him to take care of business, arrive early, stay late and move this team on offense. Is that possible? Yes.

    Probable-only JM knows for sure.

    I think it will come down to production, not optics. It doesn't matter if you come early and stay late if you suck on Sunday. I'm hoping he and the team are on the same page and everything works out. I would further hope the coaching staff doesn't design an offense tailored for Jim Kelly.

    WSS

  • There is only one way the hate for JM goes away here and that is for him to take care of business, arrive early, stay late and move this team on offense. Is that possible? Yes.

    Probable-only JM knows for sure.

    @texasag1969 said:

    There is only one way the hate for JM goes away here and that is for him to take care of business, arrive early, stay late and move this team on offense. Is that possible? Yes.

    Probable-only JM knows for sure.

    I don't hate JM but I don't have patience with someone I don't believe is giving the effort they should. I see a QB like Connor Shaw and although I am not sure if he has the arm strength I want to see the Browns go out of their way to help him succeed because of his attitude. I would feel the same way about JM if I saw the same attitude but I don't.

  • The Browns are at a crossroads right now where some wise decisions are needed. As has been posted here before they have a lot of talent on this team and a few players in key positions could take this team into the playoffs next year even with playing a tougher schedule. Some of the decisions they are making right now like the hiring of DeFilippo as OC I trust the judgment of Pettine.

  • No.. Im saying Im baffled about how people here somehow think Manziel is worse off the field than Winston..

    The hate is insane

    @playgroundlegend said:

    No.. Im saying Im baffled about how people here somehow think Manziel is worse off the field than Winston..

    The hate is insane

    the difference is, one is on the browns' roster and the other isn't.

    if it were winston or any other so-called college great who can't play a lick in the NFL here and making the same mistakes you'd see the same posts albeit with ________ sucks! he keeps Fing up off the field! they should cut ________'s ass.

  • "F'ing?"

    C'Mon Mik, you going to charm school or what?

    WSS

  • "F'ing?"

    C'Mon Mik, you going to charm school or what?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    "F'ing?"

    C'Mon Mik, you going to charm school or what?

    WSS

    LOL! Going? Going??!! Mik's teaching the f'n thing and it's paying off for all of us. 😄

  • Terry Pluto has just put up a nice article on the results of the post season reviews. Here's a bit or two. The whole thing is worth a read.

    http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2015/01/terrys_talkin_about_the_clevel_41.html

    The Browns believe the following:

    1. The offense was built on a rugged running game, solid quarterback play and receivers who caught the ball and ran the right patterns. It has to stay that way. They'd love to have an elite quarterback, but that doesn't seem possible. In the AFC North, with cold weather and physical teams, it makes sense for the Browns to keep the run first/defend well philosophy in place.

    2. The defense started slowly and was improving. It began to force turnovers and was effective against the passing game. Run defense was a weakness all season.

    3. The Browns opened the season with the plan of developing an offense built on the run and play-action passing. And they were going to rely on their defense to make big plays.

    The Browns know they have to address the run defense, and that starts with the defensive line. But overall, they believe they are building a defense that can compete in the AFC North.

    The offense remains a problem. I was not able to get a sense of what they plan to do about the quarterback -- other than they have do something. Maybe they aren't clear themselves because the options are so limited. That's part of the reason they have re-opened communications with Brian Hoyer's agent.

    Here are some other things I'm hearing:

    1. They want to add another good offensive lineman, either in the draft or free agency. They want to avoid another huge drop-off as happened when Pro Bowl center Alex Mack broke his leg and the Browns went through three other players unable to find a decent replacement.

    2. I doubt they will use a first-round pick on a receiver. They may return to free agency for this season's version of Andrew Hawkins, their free agent pick from 2014. If he's healthy, Miles Austin (lacerated kidney) is likely to be offered a chance to return.

    3. They like their young running backs: Terrance West, Isaiah Crowell and Glenn Winston. They believe Winston can be a good back, which is why they kept him on the roster all season. But they may sign a veteran running back.

  • That was a good read thanks for posting.

  • i think the synopsis tour posted is pretty much dead on with what a lot of here already knew.

    need help on both lines....check.

    don't necessarily have to use a first rounder on a WR......check.

    could win the division and more without an 'elite' franchise QB.......check.

    win with great LOS play, run the ball and stop the other team.....check and double check.

  • i think the synopsis tour posted is pretty much dead on with what a lot of here already knew.

    need help on both lines....check.

    don't necessarily have to use a first rounder on a WR......check.

    could win the division and more without an 'elite' franchise QB.......check.

    win with great LOS play, run the ball and stop the other team.....check and double check.

    @miktoxic said:

    i think the synopsis tour posted is pretty much dead on with what a lot of here already knew.

    need help on both lines....check.

    don't necessarily have to use a first rounder on a WR......check.

    could win the division and more without an 'elite' franchise QB.......check.

    win with great LOS play, run the ball and stop the other team.....check and double check.

    All of that is for naught if we don't have a QB that can win games.

    The Browns will never win a SuperBowl with Hoyer or Manziel.